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On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if"
While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong...
This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack?
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I think Sase has responded nicely, and is even going to apologise to the kid. Guys, let's take some perspective. The kid is 12, he has a successful stream, he is gettin so much attention, he just played Sase in groups in front of 12000 ppl, and he is already thru group strages. Sure maybe Sase poked a bit of fun at him, but honestly, that kid has achieved what most of us haven't at the young age of 12. I don't feel bad for him, I'm happy that he gets such an opportunity!!!
This much attention etc. also has a downside obviously. But I'm sure najzmajs will mature and learn. This is a awesome learning experience for him.
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On April 22 2012 00:17 MVTaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v So, after insulting a 12 year old (when people were trying to defend you by saying you were his friend) you then make up a lie about wolf and apollo as your reasoning for doing it? Pathetic. Just as you've been called out rather than apologising you just bad mouth the casters by saying they're lazy.
What exactly is this lie you speak of?
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On April 22 2012 00:17 MVTaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v So, after insulting a 12 year old (when people were trying to defend you by saying you were his friend) you then make up a lie about wolf and apollo as your reasoning for doing it? Pathetic.
What the f#ck?
You're not even making any sense. How could Wolf and Apollo be the reason for SaSe playing the way he did against NajzMajs? He played while they were casting. He couldn't hear them or see them.
And he's not lying about what Apollo and Wolf said. Althought Apollo was more joking around about it while Wolf were dead serious.
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Guys, seriously, this 12 year old doesn't need everyone to white knight him, he has a history of BM in online tournaments so I think he should be allowed to fight his own battles.
(Even though he seemed totally cool with it so there is no battle, just people deciding for him how he feels about it...)
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On April 22 2012 00:27 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:17 MVTaylor wrote:On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v So, after insulting a 12 year old (when people were trying to defend you by saying you were his friend) you then make up a lie about wolf and apollo as your reasoning for doing it? Pathetic. Just as you've been called out rather than apologising you just bad mouth the casters by saying they're lazy. What exactly is this lie you speak of?
On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
They weren't out of line, they didn't tell people sase's twitter name and they said themselves they wanted to cast good games no sase bm'img a 12 year old with a nexus contain. Along with apologising to the kid he should apologise for that post and bad mouthing two casters both infinitely more professional than he could hope to be.
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On April 22 2012 00:23 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:17 Kaitokid wrote:
its funny that the most "bm" thing Sase ever did in sc2 is building some manner nexi vs a 12 year old lol
calm down people, it wasn't even bm in any way in my opinion. he refused to leave the game and SaSe just fucked around a little, not a big deal...
btw all the "fans" here who come to sign out and insult sase where are you when he shows us great games? you just come out of your troll caves to create drama. i really feel like some people are literally waiting for others to make mistakes so they can start insulting them and ignoring everything good they have done because of 1 little thing. sase just played around with the kid and thats it.
I don't even think they are fans. I think they are angry nerds who come here to trashtalk SaSe while claiming they are not his fans anymore. Just making it up to cause more drama.
So being a fan means that you cannot make judgements for yourself and that you always have to defend the actions of a player no matter what?
In that case im glad im not a fan of anybody.
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On April 22 2012 00:30 MVTaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:27 Sneakyz wrote:On April 22 2012 00:17 MVTaylor wrote:On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v So, after insulting a 12 year old (when people were trying to defend you by saying you were his friend) you then make up a lie about wolf and apollo as your reasoning for doing it? Pathetic. Just as you've been called out rather than apologising you just bad mouth the casters by saying they're lazy. What exactly is this lie you speak of? Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
He's saying that the reason Wolf/Apollo seemed a bit pissed about the games was probably because they were expecting a quick 5min beatdown (KR GM v low EU Masters, after all), but instead got 2 20min+ troll games. Which is probably 100% true, so no lies there.
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On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack?
Not being ridiculed by herpderp play?
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On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v
It's so sad that you even have to make this post just for having a bit of fun in a game. I'm glad you did though since some (mostly 'mericans) actually got upset lol so this should clarify.
SaSe fighting! Go win this tournament now!
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On April 22 2012 00:34 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack? Not being ridiculed by herpderp play?
Again with the good argument compared to mine, I'll take that in change for everything else, and I wouldn't call it being ridiculed, he had the chance to leave whenever but he chose to stay in the game and try even though Sase was having a little fun, giving a 12 year old kid some spotlight time. Anyway, I'm done with this since you're going to find some other lame excuse to try and shoot back = D
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On April 22 2012 00:33 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:23 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 00:17 Kaitokid wrote:
its funny that the most "bm" thing Sase ever did in sc2 is building some manner nexi vs a 12 year old lol
calm down people, it wasn't even bm in any way in my opinion. he refused to leave the game and SaSe just fucked around a little, not a big deal...
btw all the "fans" here who come to sign out and insult sase where are you when he shows us great games? you just come out of your troll caves to create drama. i really feel like some people are literally waiting for others to make mistakes so they can start insulting them and ignoring everything good they have done because of 1 little thing. sase just played around with the kid and thats it.
I don't even think they are fans. I think they are angry nerds who come here to trashtalk SaSe while claiming they are not his fans anymore. Just making it up to cause more drama. So being a fan means that you cannot make judgements for yourself and that you always have to defend the actions of a player no matter what? In that case im glad im not a fan of anybody.
You're a fan of being a jerk.
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On April 22 2012 00:30 MVTaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:27 Sneakyz wrote:On April 22 2012 00:17 MVTaylor wrote:On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v So, after insulting a 12 year old (when people were trying to defend you by saying you were his friend) you then make up a lie about wolf and apollo as your reasoning for doing it? Pathetic. Just as you've been called out rather than apologising you just bad mouth the casters by saying they're lazy. What exactly is this lie you speak of? Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
They weren't out of line, they didn't tell people sase's twitter name and they said themselves they wanted to cast good games no sase bm'img a 12 year old with a nexus contain. Along with apologising to the kid he should apologise for that post and bad mouthing two casters both infinitely more professional than he could hope to be.
Apollo said (in a joking manner) that people should go to SaSe's twitter to write #StopHarassing12YearOlds. If you didn't hear that then that's your problem.
I don't believe neihter they nor SaSe was out of line though. Just people causing alot of drama for nothing.
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Waterflow .. just flow away please
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On April 22 2012 00:52 lolspoon wrote:
Waterflow .. just flow away please
Why don't you suck my bawls?
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I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something?
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On April 22 2012 00:37 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:34 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack? Not being ridiculed by herpderp play? Again with the good argument compared to mine, I'll take that in change for everything else, and I wouldn't call it being ridiculed, he had the chance to leave whenever but he chose to stay in the game and try even though Sase was having a little fun, giving a 12 year old kid some spotlight time. Anyway, I'm done with this since you're going to find some other lame excuse to try and shoot back = D
I feel sorry for you. Building a whole argument around a hypothetical situation and getting mad after cause you feel i dont take your " what if" argumentation serious enough.
See wut had happened wuz Sase won vs a kid and he went all herpyderpy on him.
The whole yeah"but what if he wasnt a kid" point is invalid.
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this is sase's fanclub, I think its enough.....
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On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something?
Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^
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On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^
Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player.
If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh.
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