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On December 22 2012 06:18 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 06:11 Qwyn wrote:
Yes I'll second that question. Anyone here mind explaining what happened? There's a lot of ragey comments so it must have been something pretty bad. Either that or they're all diehard Stephano supporters?!? (The one guy...). well it was game 2 of stephano vs xlord. xlord was pretty far ahead, having 8 vs 0 infestors being 10 supply up, having forth finished, buying time with his mainarmee to kill stephanos forth, having a bigger bank. stephanos only advantage was that his upgrades were 2/2 vs 2/0. The connection died. tlo dimaga and snute were discussing if it was a clear win on stream instead of having some admins deciding about this issue. Snute was the only one who was clearly for Xlord to give him the win. then xlord was asked if he wants to take the win and play a bo5, he declined and said, that it was a clear freewin because he had enough fungles was killing stephanos forth and every advantage i mentioned earlier. Dimaga take and tlo where indecisive, so stephano admitted his lose and xlord advanced. now people are hating on him, because he fought for his advantage, or for whatever reason they are hating. (this was not a invitation to hate on.)
I think the thing is he could have explained and expressed himself a bit better + had some better manners. So people are mad because he acted so childish and swore a lot.
It went like this: "OMFG WHAT THE FUCK I WAS CLEARLY LEADING GIVE ME THE FUCKING VICTORY WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU" , and then Stephano was like "Omg, you can have the win if you want it so bad".
Not to bash or disrespect XlorD or anything, just clearing the situation a bit.  I'm impressed he managed to get this far and and win MMA and Stephano. We'll see if he gets even further in this tournament.
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I'm not a fan but I come there to say i've been impress by Xlord performance the only true patch Z, the guy who had the balls to say he'll be really good when queendralisks were bornt and who actually performed when Z have been nerfed.
And a true competitor, able to take a win when he needs.
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Xlord, don't worry it'll fix itself. Stephano fans are mad (I'm a Stephano fan but I'm not the kind of guy that is biased) and that's normal, every DC provokes controversy anyway.
By the way, great play, you really surprised me, improving so fast. Winning this tournament is very possible for you.
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(xlord 1-0 ahead and without the big armys colliding stephano has a disconnect right before the big armys connect.. regame or not?)
tlo: lets make it a secret decision, so ppl dont get mad at us!
dimaga: i dont know about deciding this..
take: but u guys have to decide it since u are the pros!
*lots of discussing*
snute: ok. since he was ahead but its not 100% clear: how about 2-0 with making it a bo5. that would be a good compromise right?
others: yeah, sounds fair!
xlord (interrupting the decision making): no, it was a free win. dont you see?
stephano (kinda unamused): just give him the *** 2-0 ...
take: ok. lets make it 2-0 and thats the final decision.
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Nice that all the kiddies come to bash him for his attitude by acting like kids...
I wish he had taken the game legitimately, just so he could rub it in Stephano's face after laughing when they were talking about how Xlord said he would do well. It's a shame that it ended like it did, but he'd already won one game and was ahead again.
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Well, i don't like both players, but i'm pretty sure a regame would've been the most comfortable situation for audience and hsc, because so far this tournament is a disaster (stream unwatchable, etc.. ) and all ppl want, is a fluent stream of good games which they couldn't provide so far.
besides that, nobody rly likes xlord in ger because he is a premature dumb moron.
imho wrong decisions from hsc but i forgive them because the organisation is semi professional and they don't know it better.
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On December 22 2012 06:42 NeonFox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 06:18 Undead1993 wrote:On December 22 2012 06:11 Qwyn wrote:
Yes I'll second that question. Anyone here mind explaining what happened? There's a lot of ragey comments so it must have been something pretty bad. Either that or they're all diehard Stephano supporters?!? (The one guy...). well it was game 2 of stephano vs xlord. xlord was pretty far ahead, having 8 vs 0 infestors being 10 supply up, having forth finished, buying time with his mainarmee to kill stephanos forth, having a bigger bank. stephanos only advantage was that his upgrades were 2/2 vs 2/0. The connection died. tlo dimaga and snute were discussing if it was a clear win on stream instead of having some admins deciding about this issue. Snute was the only one who was clearly for Xlord to give him the win. then xlord was asked if he wants to take the win and play a bo5, he declined and said, that it was a clear freewin because he had enough fungles was killing stephanos forth and every advantage i mentioned earlier. Dimaga take and tlo where indecisive, so stephano admitted his lose and xlord advanced. now people are hating on him, because he fought for his advantage, or for whatever reason they are hating. (this was not a invitation to hate on.) You forgot to mention that it was unclear if Xlord was going to attack in a really bad position for him, Apollo called for a regame on twitter as well. Also that Xlord stepped in during the arguments and started saying it was a "freewin" and "even bronze players should know", as well as refusing the admin propositions AFTER he stepped in. And also that once Stephano gave him the win he still kept bickering and annoying Stephano that finished by saying "you don't want a regame, you don't want the win, what do you want?! I give you the win congrats it's over". So yeah stepping in like that and being bm to Stephano after he just gave him the win won't bring you fans.
dont know about that though, i heard nothing like this srsly, i think this is now just speculation, i didn't hear anyone saying anything actually but i might be also wrong, i mean up to the point with freewin i heard it but after i dont know if its true. but as i said might be
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On December 22 2012 07:02 kartoffel wrote:
Well, i don't like both players, but i'm pretty sure a regame would've been the most comfortable situation for audience and hsc, because so far this tournament is a disaster (stream unwatchable, etc.. ) and all ppl want, is a fluent stream of good games which they couldn't provide so far.
besides that, nobody rly likes xlord in ger because he is a premature dumb moron.
imho wrong decisions from hsc but i forgive them because the organisation is semi professional and they don't know it better.
Wrong thread man. Wrong thread. I know who's being a ''premature dumb moron'' here.
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I hope xlord wins HSC!!gogogo
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Fresh day tomorrow xlord. Stay focus on winning the tournament!
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On December 22 2012 10:00 Waxangel wrote:
i love trap threads ^^
:p
i'm sure Cokefreak got most of the reports haha :D
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I have no clue why, but i think it will all come down to a zvz final between snute and xlord for HSC.
I am really impressed by him even if i am a huge TLO fan (for the tournament)
regards
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to all the Stephano fans:
if you critizise XlorD for his behaviour, First think about how you would have reacted in his situation, where you are about to 2-0 one of the absolute favorites, which won already so much prize Money in tournaments.
now you are about to beat him with a good advantage and get a dc, while being centimeters away from the First big prize Money of your SCII career.
would you just thoughtless accept the chance to get dropped? i mean, everyone knows Stephano, everyone knows he is one of the few players abled to turn a 0-2 Into a 3-2.
think about that.
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On December 22 2012 20:34 M O L O K O wrote:
to all the Stephano fans:
if you critizise XlorD for his behaviour, First think about how you would have reacted in his situation, where you are about to 2-0 one of the absolute favorites, which won already so much prize Money in tournaments.
now you are about to beat him with a good advantage and get a dc, while being centimeters away from the First big prize Money of your SCII career.
would you just thoughtless accept the chance to get dropped? i mean, everyone knows Stephano, everyone knows he is one of the few players abled to turn a 0-2 Into a 3-2.
think about that.
No, it doesn't really require any thinking - you just either have pride and honor or not.
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On December 23 2012 00:45 EsMuyVien wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 20:34 M O L O K O wrote:
to all the Stephano fans:
if you critizise XlorD for his behaviour, First think about how you would have reacted in his situation, where you are about to 2-0 one of the absolute favorites, which won already so much prize Money in tournaments.
now you are about to beat him with a good advantage and get a dc, while being centimeters away from the First big prize Money of your SCII career.
would you just thoughtless accept the chance to get dropped? i mean, everyone knows Stephano, everyone knows he is one of the few players abled to turn a 0-2 Into a 3-2.
think about that. No, it doesn't really require any thinking - you just either have pride and honor or not.
Then neither player - or like 99% have not. because they would have reacted same in this situation, the hating is just not fair. XlorD showed great performance. If their roles would be switched, Stephano would have reacted the same way.
And it's just pure logic and common sense to decide for 875$ - 10000$ over pride and honor. I don't say i like this at all, but money rules the world. The sad truth.
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On December 23 2012 02:10 M O L O K O wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 00:45 EsMuyVien wrote:On December 22 2012 20:34 M O L O K O wrote:
to all the Stephano fans:
if you critizise XlorD for his behaviour, First think about how you would have reacted in his situation, where you are about to 2-0 one of the absolute favorites, which won already so much prize Money in tournaments.
now you are about to beat him with a good advantage and get a dc, while being centimeters away from the First big prize Money of your SCII career.
would you just thoughtless accept the chance to get dropped? i mean, everyone knows Stephano, everyone knows he is one of the few players abled to turn a 0-2 Into a 3-2.
think about that. No, it doesn't really require any thinking - you just either have pride and honor or not. Then neither player - or like 99% have not. because they would have reacted same in this situation, the hating is just not fair. XlorD showed great performance. If their roles would be switched, Stephano would have reacted the same way. And it's just pure logic and common sense to decide for 875$ - 10000$ over pride and honor. I don't say i like this at all, but money rules the world. The sad truth.
Saying that doesn't excuse or justify rudeness and lack of manner. xLord was being completely unreasonable and just complained until the players gave in. And why would you assume that Stephano would have reacted the same way? He actually probably wouldn't. He was the one who gave xLord the win, without argument or complaint, afterall. Stephano let him have the win just to avoid further drama, at Stephano's own sake.
To be clear, I'm not on either player's side - just saying how I feel about the situation. xLord played extremely well.
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Xlord is a bm patch zerg dunno how people can be fan of him.
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To be fair, it's much more stressful to be a breakout player, trying to make a name for one's self, rather than the establish foreign hope, with a huge salary, fan base, and one of EG's hottest pick-ups.
Even though I think Xlord certainly was bm and lost his cool, he was in a MUCH more stressful position then Stephano. He's been practicing and looking for this opportunity for a LONG time.
gl to both, I hope you learn to keep your cool in the future.
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