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On December 13 2011 04:21 AIOL! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 04:14 GreyMasta wrote:On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play. That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans. Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!! i don't see the slightest kind of "STEPHANO BEST IN DA WORLD FTW YOU NOOB !! XD LOL" in this post. This is just a subjective point of view of guy expressing how he sees the things. And all what he says is rational, he might would remplace "outclassing" by beating and it would be the perfoect post  You're the vilain here, sorry :s
I think you got confused. I was taking this beautiful post as a perfect-good example of a mature fan, as opposite to that horrible "Why Stephano HERP DERP?" thread that was rolling by during all the week end.
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On December 13 2011 04:21 AIOL! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 04:14 GreyMasta wrote:On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play. That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans. Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!! i don't see the slightest kind of "STEPHANO BEST IN DA WORLD FTW YOU NOOB !! XD LOL" in this post. This is just a subjective point of view of guy expressing how he sees the things. And all what he says is rational, he might would remplace "outclassing" by beating and it would be the perfoect post You're the vilain here, sorry :s
You completely misread the post you are refering to. Re-read his first sentence and try again
Also, great showing by stephano against some of the best players in the world.
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 Stephano played really good today just wish he had chosen to not allin vs mc. was cheering so hard for mc that last game but it was to no good..
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On December 13 2011 04:26 GreyMasta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 04:21 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 04:14 GreyMasta wrote:On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play. That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans. Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!! i don't see the slightest kind of "STEPHANO BEST IN DA WORLD FTW YOU NOOB !! XD LOL" in this post. This is just a subjective point of view of guy expressing how he sees the things. And all what he says is rational, he might would remplace "outclassing" by beating and it would be the perfoect post You're the vilain here, sorry :s I think you got confused. I was taking this beautiful post as a perfect-good example of a mature fan, as opposite to that horrible "Why Stephano HERP DERP?" thread that was rolling by during all the week end.
ok i'm sorry :s, i was thinking you were sacastic, and since english is not my native language it's sometimes hard to detect nuances. Yeah so your post was at least as good as the one you quoted
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On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!!
Actually most progamers don't have that opinion.
BoxeR: There are two famous styles in the international scene : IdrA's and Stephano's. Normaly, Koreans don't take inspiration from foreign players, but right now, a lot of zergs are using Stephano's style on the ladder, that proves that he is an excelent player who has, in my opinion, the level for code S.
MVP: Stephano is Code S material.
IdrA: At first he said that Stephano was overrated but now he says he is definitely one of the best foreigners.
And it's actually pretty ironic because DRG lost from Stephano in Blizzard Cup. Just saying... So why didn't DRG have him figured out already?
In my opinion, only the fact that people all over Korea are studying Stephano means he is a force to be reckoned with.
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On December 13 2011 04:21 AIOL! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 04:14 GreyMasta wrote:On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play. That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans. Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!! i don't see the slightest kind of "STEPHANO BEST IN DA WORLD FTW YOU NOOB !! XD LOL" in this post. This is just a subjective point of view of guy expressing how he sees the things. And all what he says is rational, he might would remplace "outclassing" by beating and it would be the perfoect post You're the vilain here, sorry :s
He actually said the post was good, unlike some posts other people made recently.
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On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu[...]
I know it's easy to get enthusiastic, but please please stop this bs about "outclassing" or "in another league". It's just not true, and if you watched the games closely you would know.
Stephano played well and deserved these wins but don't use these expressions - casters should also stop using them...
I think Stephano did really well and some of the "haters" may disappear now. Of course it's unlucky to drop out of the tournament in that way, but even as a huge fanboy i have to admit that the other players deserved to advance.
@Stephano: If you're reading this - please don't stream until Christmas, because i have a lot of work to do for university and your stream distracts me.  
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On December 13 2011 04:14 GreyMasta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play. That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans. Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!!
Yeah lol exactly. Please use your head guys even though you may love that guy. Still try to think. He's a great player. Nobody has ever denied that. People only say that he has certain style thats different then normal zergs. That style will get figured out. But he will still be a great player, will still do good in tournaments. Only his style guys. His style. That doesnt mean he wont win anymore, just a bit less. Got it guys? A bit less. He wont suck. Nobody has ever said that.
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On December 13 2011 03:28 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:23 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 03:16 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that. Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year. I guess you can just be irrational. That's fine. I won't bother talking to you. So you're saying his analysis of his own loss is wrong, not based on evidence, but based on your "feeling" that the loss somehow affected his mind. Ridiculous. You need to stop being such an absurd fool and realize that nobody is saying Stephano or even that they're doubting his skills as a top-level player. Pull your head out. By the way, Stephano is a really good SC2 player. I enjoyed watching him play as a fellow Zerg I dont know why the personal attack all im saying is DRG has never been in a same tournament with Stephano and barely knows him he lost quit convincely in there ZvZ. Then he comes out and say his ZvZ will get figured out while the great MVP says the exact opposite and says its unique and he is excited about Stephano But feel free todo more ad hominem attacks on me. Since you're making so many mistakes, I'll go ahead and explain it to you even though I said I'm done talking to you. 1) Calling your argument irrational is not a personal attack. Advising that you stop doing absurdly foolish things is not personally attacking you. Telling you to pull your head out of the clouds and cut the trolling/irrational bullshit is not an "ad hominem". 2) Yet another completely irrational argument: DRG does not know Stephano (as a person? friend? wtf?), therefore he does not know his playstyle. Oh, really? So DRG can't analyze Stephano's play without actually knowing Stephano? That's illogical. DRG could have based his comment on Stephano's style on multiple Stephano games. How do you know he just randomly played one game and BOOM produced those comments? Is that clear? Respond to those points in a rational way, i.e., don't ignore everything and complain that I'm "personally attacking" you.
1) You called me a fool becuase I dont share you opinion? and you say I use an irrational argument? I have watched Stephano since Gosu cup somethign where i was actually watching Nerchio and somehow Stephano supriced me.
2)And all I got to say is that Stephano dont got a style he is wild and agressive sometimes to agressive that cost him some games now and again in ZvZ. Take the IPL 3 final and you will see 4 different strats used by Stephano. DRG is wrong and I think he is just trying to justify his lose
I do however respect you oppinion. I just dont agree with it
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On December 13 2011 04:55 Firlefanz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu[...] I know it's easy to get enthusiastic, but please please stop this bs about "outclassing" or "in another league". It's just not true, and if you watched the games closely you would know. Stephano played well and deserved these wins but don't use these expressions - casters should also stop using them... I think Stephano did really well and some of the "haters" may disappear now. Of course it's unlucky to drop out of the tournament in that way, but even as a huge fanboy i have to admit that the other players deserved to advance. @Stephano: If you're reading this - please don't stream until Christmas, because i have a lot of work to do for university and your stream distracts me.
? No where did I say he was "in another league" from those two players. The post you quoted was my first in this thread, and I wouldn't consider myself a Stephano "fanboy." I had been impressed by his play before but failed to see what all the hype was about. I got a little glimpse of that today and want to see more, I was just disappointed with how he played against MC and MVP (who are no shame to lose to).
As for "outclassed," I'll use that expression as much as I like, thanks. Regardless of HerO's condition, or how that may have affected his play, Stephano was on top of every single little pressure HerO tried to do and eventually just overran him with pure macro Roaches. In that game, HerO was outclassed (and I am a HerO fanboy). The DRG game is a bit more debatable, but Stephano went for the macro play, DRG tried to go for the all-in to punish the macro play, and Stephano defended it textbook-style. Really nothing more to be said.
And I'm not sure what all this discussion is about "figuring out" his style. It's true that he has a distinctive style, and I'm sure he would be the first person to admit it. That doesn't mean that it's all he is limited to or that he'll fade away as more players become familiar with it. But it does put him in the position where he can get BO countered by people who have seen him play and expect him to play a certain way (MVP today).
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On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play.
IMO MVP / DRG / Stephano / MC were pretty even today (maybe not MVP, and Hero wasn't in his best form)
Stephano could have gone 3-1, he could also be 1-3 (those ling/bling war are so unforgiven :/)
It would have been ballsy from him if he try something like roaches/ling aggressive sheth's style against MVP just to mind game MVP
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On December 13 2011 05:13 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 04:55 Firlefanz wrote:On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu[...] I know it's easy to get enthusiastic, but please please stop this bs about "outclassing" or "in another league". It's just not true, and if you watched the games closely you would know. Stephano played well and deserved these wins but don't use these expressions - casters should also stop using them... I think Stephano did really well and some of the "haters" may disappear now. Of course it's unlucky to drop out of the tournament in that way, but even as a huge fanboy i have to admit that the other players deserved to advance. @Stephano: If you're reading this - please don't stream until Christmas, because i have a lot of work to do for university and your stream distracts me. ? No where did I say he was "in another league" from those two players. The post you quoted was my first in this thread, and I wouldn't consider myself a Stephano "fanboy." I had been impressed by his play before but failed to see what all the hype was about. I got a little glimpse of that today and want to see more, I was just disappointed with how he played against MC and MVP (who are no shame to lose to). As for "outclassed," I'll use that expression as much as I like, thanks. Regardless of HerO's condition, or how that may have affected his play, Stephano was on top of every single little pressure HerO tried to do and eventually just overran him with pure macro Roaches. In that game, HerO was outclassed (and I am a HerO fanboy). The DRG game is a bit more debatable, but Stephano went for the macro play, DRG tried to go for the all-in to punish the macro play, and Stephano defended it textbook-style. Really nothing more to be said. And I'm not sure what all this discussion is about "figuring out" his style. It's true that he has a distinctive style, and I'm sure he would be the first person to admit it. That doesn't mean that it's all he is limited to or that he'll fade away as more players become familiar with it. But it does put him in the position where he can get BO countered by people who have seen him play and expect him to play a certain way (MVP today).
"stephano defended it textbook style" no... it was ridiculously close, stephano made a few micro mistakes but was other than that able to keep up really well, plus great decision making made him win a really really really close game. A few extra lings or just one more small mistake from stephano probably would have lost him that game. A deserved victory sure but nothing at all indicating stephano would be a fauvorite in future matches against DRG.
edit: oh, and stephano didn't play as well as i hoped/thought he would. Still has some way to go apparently still gonna be nr.1 eventually imo!
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On December 13 2011 05:11 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:28 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 03:23 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 03:16 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that. Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year. I guess you can just be irrational. That's fine. I won't bother talking to you. So you're saying his analysis of his own loss is wrong, not based on evidence, but based on your "feeling" that the loss somehow affected his mind. Ridiculous. You need to stop being such an absurd fool and realize that nobody is saying Stephano or even that they're doubting his skills as a top-level player. Pull your head out. By the way, Stephano is a really good SC2 player. I enjoyed watching him play as a fellow Zerg I dont know why the personal attack all im saying is DRG has never been in a same tournament with Stephano and barely knows him he lost quit convincely in there ZvZ. Then he comes out and say his ZvZ will get figured out while the great MVP says the exact opposite and says its unique and he is excited about Stephano But feel free todo more ad hominem attacks on me. Since you're making so many mistakes, I'll go ahead and explain it to you even though I said I'm done talking to you. 1) Calling your argument irrational is not a personal attack. Advising that you stop doing absurdly foolish things is not personally attacking you. Telling you to pull your head out of the clouds and cut the trolling/irrational bullshit is not an "ad hominem". 2) Yet another completely irrational argument: DRG does not know Stephano (as a person? friend? wtf?), therefore he does not know his playstyle. Oh, really? So DRG can't analyze Stephano's play without actually knowing Stephano? That's illogical. DRG could have based his comment on Stephano's style on multiple Stephano games. How do you know he just randomly played one game and BOOM produced those comments? Is that clear? Respond to those points in a rational way, i.e., don't ignore everything and complain that I'm "personally attacking" you. 1) You called me a fool becuase I dont share you opinion? and you say I use an irrational argument? I have watched Stephano since Gosu cup somethign where i was actually watching Nerchio and somehow Stephano supriced me. 2)And all I got to say is that Stephano dont got a style he is wild and agressive sometimes to agressive that cost him some games now and again in ZvZ. Take the IPL 3 final and you will see 4 different strats used by Stephano. DRG is wrong and I think he is just trying to justify his lose I do however respect you oppinion. I just dont agree with it
I think that if somehow we had to vote for the "official stephano's fans defender" you would be this one with NO contest ! There is just no "bashing stephano" post on TL you didn"t respond to ! You are eveywhere and i respect you so much for that You got an amazing perseverance to respond at angry blind trolls this is stoning !
One day i"ll make the official HappyChris fanclub xD
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For those of you who are Touhou fans (as well as Stephano fans, and if you are not, the following is not supposed to be offensive but praise)
+ Show Spoiler +
Satouri <3
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On December 13 2011 05:33 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:For those of you who are Touhou fans (as well as Stephano fans, and if you are not, the following is not supposed to be offensive but praise) + Show Spoiler +Satouri <3
You made me laugh so hard thanks !! xD
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On December 13 2011 05:11 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:28 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 03:23 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 03:16 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that. Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year. I guess you can just be irrational. That's fine. I won't bother talking to you. So you're saying his analysis of his own loss is wrong, not based on evidence, but based on your "feeling" that the loss somehow affected his mind. Ridiculous. You need to stop being such an absurd fool and realize that nobody is saying Stephano or even that they're doubting his skills as a top-level player. Pull your head out. By the way, Stephano is a really good SC2 player. I enjoyed watching him play as a fellow Zerg I dont know why the personal attack all im saying is DRG has never been in a same tournament with Stephano and barely knows him he lost quit convincely in there ZvZ. Then he comes out and say his ZvZ will get figured out while the great MVP says the exact opposite and says its unique and he is excited about Stephano But feel free todo more ad hominem attacks on me. Since you're making so many mistakes, I'll go ahead and explain it to you even though I said I'm done talking to you. 1) Calling your argument irrational is not a personal attack. Advising that you stop doing absurdly foolish things is not personally attacking you. Telling you to pull your head out of the clouds and cut the trolling/irrational bullshit is not an "ad hominem". 2) Yet another completely irrational argument: DRG does not know Stephano (as a person? friend? wtf?), therefore he does not know his playstyle. Oh, really? So DRG can't analyze Stephano's play without actually knowing Stephano? That's illogical. DRG could have based his comment on Stephano's style on multiple Stephano games. How do you know he just randomly played one game and BOOM produced those comments? Is that clear? Respond to those points in a rational way, i.e., don't ignore everything and complain that I'm "personally attacking" you. 1) You called me a fool becuase I dont share you opinion? and you say I use an irrational argument? I have watched Stephano since Gosu cup somethign where i was actually watching Nerchio and somehow Stephano supriced me. 2)And all I got to say is that Stephano dont got a style he is wild and agressive sometimes to agressive that cost him some games now and again in ZvZ. Take the IPL 3 final and you will see 4 different strats used by Stephano. DRG is wrong and I think he is just trying to justify his lose I do however respect you oppinion. I just dont agree with it
No, I called you a fool because your rationale was illogical and still is. Are you trolling me or are you really this confused? Do you not understand why your rationale makes zero sense with regard to DRG's quote? Go back and look at your responses and rethink your logic. You claim his analysis of his own loss is WRONG due to the fact that 1) he just lost a game, and 2) he doesn't know Stephano. This problem stems from a complete failure in logic, not an opinion, and certainly not because you don't share my opinion. You employed irrational logic in response to points made, and that's what I was addressing/am still addressing. You still don't seem to realize it though anyway, so it's fine, whatever. I just want you to at least realize where you're confused/wrong.
If you think still think DRG is wrong, it's just not good enough to provide as reasoning: "he's wrong bc he just lost" -- that's illogical.
Also, for the record, you actually do agree with my opinion. The only OPINION of my own that I've left here is: "I think Stephano is a really good SC2 player". Go back and check.
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Who cares guys who cares, chill out
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It was a great performance, but he never should have all-in'd MC.... and he certainly shouldn't have told anyone about it before hand (Khaldor, said on the cast he was going to do that.... so at least 1 other person knew beforehand)
Even if you just told Khaldor.... he could have said something to the production people, who relayed it to MC..... Just because you hang out in a team house, doesn't mean that these Korean gamers haven't been friends for 10 years and despite being on different teams they'll still share information with their old buddies.
Probably not, I'm obviously paranoid, but still not a smart idea to be loose with information in enemy territory.
Korea is enemy territory for foreigners..... from the time you get off the plane, til the time you leave, they want to beat you down.... don't let outwardly kind and well mannered behavior make you think any different.
Its a game of information, and information analysis...... don't just give it away before the match to anyone but your most trusted friends and coaches.
You did great, but after going 2-0 you were really on the verge of something huge and historic..... then Khaldor knew your plan, MC held it off to perfection and barely held on to beat you. Then MC loses to DRG and you're out.....
Meanwhile, Koreans and BW pros reputations survive..... and Stephano the French WC3 player is out, like every other foreigner before him.
I'm a huge fan, but this one needs to hurt because opportunities like this don't come along often.
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Is stephano going to stay in Korea long enough to try for next code A?
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Where is Stephano staying in Korea?
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