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On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!!
Where do you take this from ? do you have the link of this interview please ? Also i think DRG is wrong and fall into the simplist way to take this stuff. everybody says "stephano has one style and will be figured out"; but this is UBER SHIT !
I think stephano is today the pro zerg with the most eclectic variety of styles in every match-up, the ones who say he has "one style" just follow him since 2 weeks or never saw him and say this coz mister Idra sayd so.
In ZvP he can go either :
- Baneling burst
- Roach all-in (like we saw today)
- Mass roach (with or without drops)
- Mutas (this is the style he does the less i admit)
- Mass roach hydra with corruptors
- Zergings or roach infestors
- Fast Infestors into BL
And in late game he always BL or ultras.
This is one of the most complete zerg in PvZ, he knows how to play everything.
I will not do the same thing with ZvT but this is the same thing: Mutas + burrow blings / roch infest into BL / Ling upgrade into infest into BL/Ultras etc....
He is just so creative that he can plays everything with the stephano touch that makes him so singular.
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On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from ? do you have the link of this interview please ? Also i think DRG is wrong and fall into the simplist way to take this stuff. everybody says "stephano has one style and will be figured out"; but this is UBER SHIT ! I think stephano is today the pro zerg with the most eclectic variety of styles in every match-up, the ones who say he has "one style" just follow him since 2 weeks or never saw him and say this coz mister Idra sayd so. In ZvP he can go either : - Baneling burst - Roach all-in (like we saw today) - Mass roach (with or without drops) - Mutas (this is the style he does the less i admit) - Mass roach hydra with corruptors - Zergings or roach infestors - Fast Infestors into BL And in late game he always BL or ultras. This is one of the most complete zerg in PvZ, he knows how to play everything. I will not do the same thing with ZvT but this is the same thing: Mutas + burrow blings / roch infest into BL / Ling upgrade into infest into BL/Ultras etc.... He is just so creative that he can plays everything with the stephano touch that makes him so singular.
Amen AIOL. The he will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so is just getting old. We got MVP praising Stephano. Who gives a shit what Idra says. Idra is intimidated by Stephano and he should be because Stephano is getting better and better and I cant wait until they meet in a tournament
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On December 13 2011 02:39 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from ? do you have the link of this interview please ? Also i think DRG is wrong and fall into the simplist way to take this stuff. everybody says "stephano has one style and will be figured out"; but this is UBER SHIT ! I think stephano is today the pro zerg with the most eclectic variety of styles in every match-up, the ones who say he has "one style" just follow him since 2 weeks or never saw him and say this coz mister Idra sayd so. In ZvP he can go either : - Baneling burst - Roach all-in (like we saw today) - Mass roach (with or without drops) - Mutas (this is the style he does the less i admit) - Mass roach hydra with corruptors - Zergings or roach infestors - Fast Infestors into BL And in late game he always BL or ultras. This is one of the most complete zerg in PvZ, he knows how to play everything. I will not do the same thing with ZvT but this is the same thing: Mutas + burrow blings / roch infest into BL / Ling upgrade into infest into BL/Ultras etc.... He is just so creative that he can plays everything with the stephano touch that makes him so singular. Amen AIOL. The he will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so is just getting old. We got MVP praising Stephano. Who gives a shit what Idra says. Idra is intimidated by Stephano and he should be because Stephano is getting better and better and I cant wait until they meet in a tournament
Where do you find this DRG ad MVP interview plz ? I can't find this stuff on TL and everybody quote this.
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To my opignion stephano the best player in the world against players who are playing standard games with regular strategies
But he has a real problem in the long run against players who have their own way of playing the game !
For example :
Defeat against goody in battle in berlin
Has lost many games against hasuobs
Can't beat MC but roflstomp HerO ( and all the protoss players in IPL4 qualifiers )
Loses against an unusual push from MVP
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On December 13 2011 02:39 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from ? do you have the link of this interview please ? Also i think DRG is wrong and fall into the simplist way to take this stuff. everybody says "stephano has one style and will be figured out"; but this is UBER SHIT ! I think stephano is today the pro zerg with the most eclectic variety of styles in every match-up, the ones who say he has "one style" just follow him since 2 weeks or never saw him and say this coz mister Idra sayd so. In ZvP he can go either : - Baneling burst - Roach all-in (like we saw today) - Mass roach (with or without drops) - Mutas (this is the style he does the less i admit) - Mass roach hydra with corruptors - Zergings or roach infestors - Fast Infestors into BL And in late game he always BL or ultras. This is one of the most complete zerg in PvZ, he knows how to play everything. I will not do the same thing with ZvT but this is the same thing: Mutas + burrow blings / roch infest into BL / Ling upgrade into infest into BL/Ultras etc.... He is just so creative that he can plays everything with the stephano touch that makes him so singular. Amen AIOL. The he will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so is just getting old. We got MVP praising Stephano. Who gives a shit what Idra says. Idra is intimidated by Stephano and he should be because Stephano is getting better and better and I cant wait until they meet in a tournament
whoa whoa whoa hold your horses there, idrA said that steph unique style is what the koreans will evantually figure out, and we can actually see that it is happening (MVP read him like a book)
idrA did not say that steph is a one trick phony that can be figured out easily or anything similar, he also he said that stephano is a really smart player.
why the hell you turn everything he said so badly :/
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On December 12 2011 21:22 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:I miss 2 games, and stephano lost both  I must have cursed him by not watching
Yea dood da HeX GoD totally put a curse on stephano b/c u, one random of his thousands of fans decided not to watch all of his games. He punish stephano (and u) for ur insolence!
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On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO
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On December 13 2011 03:07 damod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:39 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from ? do you have the link of this interview please ? Also i think DRG is wrong and fall into the simplist way to take this stuff. everybody says "stephano has one style and will be figured out"; but this is UBER SHIT ! I think stephano is today the pro zerg with the most eclectic variety of styles in every match-up, the ones who say he has "one style" just follow him since 2 weeks or never saw him and say this coz mister Idra sayd so. In ZvP he can go either : - Baneling burst - Roach all-in (like we saw today) - Mass roach (with or without drops) - Mutas (this is the style he does the less i admit) - Mass roach hydra with corruptors - Zergings or roach infestors - Fast Infestors into BL And in late game he always BL or ultras. This is one of the most complete zerg in PvZ, he knows how to play everything. I will not do the same thing with ZvT but this is the same thing: Mutas + burrow blings / roch infest into BL / Ling upgrade into infest into BL/Ultras etc.... He is just so creative that he can plays everything with the stephano touch that makes him so singular. Amen AIOL. The he will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so is just getting old. We got MVP praising Stephano. Who gives a shit what Idra says. Idra is intimidated by Stephano and he should be because Stephano is getting better and better and I cant wait until they meet in a tournament whoa whoa whoa hold your horses there, idrA said that steph unique style is what the koreans will evantually figure out, and we can actually see that it is happening (MVP read him like a book) idrA did not say that steph is a one trick phony that can be figured out easily or anything similar, he also he said that stephano is a really smart player. why the hell you turn everything he said so badly :/
Because Stephano allways only sayd nice thing about Idra. But idra keep saying that Stephano is overrated and gonna get figured out in alot of interviews.
Its the same with Nerchio.
Its all about PR and its pissing me off. What happend to just respecting there opponents an up and comming players.
Really if every new player to the scene has todo what Stephano has done just to get a foothold and impress fans well then we wont have any new players in the foreign scene.
And maybe thats why we see so little talent in the forum scene?
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On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964Show nested quote +
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO
DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that.
Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year.
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On December 13 2011 03:16 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that. Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year.
I guess you can just be irrational. That's fine. I won't bother talking to you. So you're saying his analysis of his own loss is wrong, not based on evidence, but based on your "feeling" that the loss somehow affected his mind.
Ridiculous. You need to stop being such an absurd fool and realize that nobody is saying Stephano sucks, and no one is even really doubting his skills as a top-level player. Pull your head out.
By the way, Stephano is a really good SC2 player. I enjoyed watching him play as a fellow Zerg
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On December 13 2011 03:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:16 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that. Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year. I guess you can just be irrational. That's fine. I won't bother talking to you. So you're saying his analysis of his own loss is wrong, not based on evidence, but based on your "feeling" that the loss somehow affected his mind. Ridiculous. You need to stop being such an absurd fool and realize that nobody is saying Stephano or even that they're doubting his skills as a top-level player. Pull your head out. By the way, Stephano is a really good SC2 player. I enjoyed watching him play as a fellow Zerg
I dont know why the personal attack all im saying is DRG has never been in a same tournament with Stephano and barely knows him he lost quit convincely in there ZvZ. Then he comes out and say his ZvZ will get figured out while the great MVP says the exact opposite and says its unique and he is excited about Stephano
But feel free todo more ad hominem attacks on me.
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On December 13 2011 03:23 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:19 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 03:16 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 03:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293964
Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano
I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose.
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
Also i think DRG is wrong
It's okay to have an opinion. I think most people value DRG's over yours though when it comes to pro gamers and their skill/capacity. IMO DRG just lost hard in a ZvZ to stephano ofcourse he gonna try to justify that. Ill take any odds in a ZvZ Stephano vs DRG bo5 any day of the year. I guess you can just be irrational. That's fine. I won't bother talking to you. So you're saying his analysis of his own loss is wrong, not based on evidence, but based on your "feeling" that the loss somehow affected his mind. Ridiculous. You need to stop being such an absurd fool and realize that nobody is saying Stephano or even that they're doubting his skills as a top-level player. Pull your head out. By the way, Stephano is a really good SC2 player. I enjoyed watching him play as a fellow Zerg I dont know why the personal attack all im saying is DRG has never been in a same tournament with Stephano and barely knows him he lost quit convincely in there ZvZ. Then he comes out and say his ZvZ will get figured out while the great MVP says the exact opposite and says its unique and he is excited about Stephano But feel free todo more ad hominem attacks on me.
Since you're making so many mistakes, I'll go ahead and explain it to you even though I said I'm done talking to you.
1) Calling your argument irrational is not a personal attack. Advising that you stop doing absurdly foolish things is not personally attacking you. Telling you to pull your head out of the clouds and cut the trolling/irrational bullshit is not an "ad hominem".
2) Yet another completely irrational argument: DRG does not know Stephano (as a person? friend? wtf?), therefore he does not know his playstyle. Oh, really? So DRG can't analyze Stephano's play without actually knowing Stephano? That's illogical. DRG could have based his comment on Stephano's style on multiple Stephano games. How do you know he just randomly played one game and BOOM produced those comments?
Is that clear? Respond to those points in a rational way, i.e., don't ignore everything and complain that I'm "personally attacking" you.
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Guys he lost against MVP and MC.. two of the top 3 players in earnings! It's not like he lost against bad players..
He beat hero (winner dreamhack and 2nd at nasl) and DRG .. come on!
It's not the end of the world for stephano and he knows it, he could have passed if MC beat DRG but MC lost so it's sad but acceptable imo!
Stephano is a very good player top10 foreigner always, any other topX is always hard to say and it's always biased opinion.
In earnings he is the nº1 foreigner tho 
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In all fairness, EU ZvZ is a LOT tougher then Korea ZvZ. Dimaga is the best ZvZ in EU, afaik, and not even he has a flawless record in the match.
Also, Nerchio is dam good at ZvZ, and he trades games with Stephano evenly last I heard, and Stephano barely loses out to Dimaga (assembly). Also, Stephano rofl stomped Lucky at IPL3. He also beat Sen in ZvZ (something that DRG has also done :'( ).
DRG is one of the best ZvZ in the GSL that I know of, up there with Nestea and Fruitdealer (BboongBboong maybe not  ), and in all fairness Stephano was either extremely lucky, or read DRG like a book in what he did in that game. It was probably a mix of both, but the way he droned between ling attacks, kept his spine alive, blocked his ramp with queens n lings against lings and a whole lot of other things put this ZvZ on the same level as Dimaga vs July for control, and tbh, Dimaga and July had better control overall, only as DRG's control was lacking, while Stephano was pulling off near perfect.
For him to say Stephano has "good mechanics" is about the same as saying Dimaga is "good" at zvz.
The all in vs MC was a bit -_- tho .
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On December 13 2011 03:14 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:07 damod wrote:On December 13 2011 02:39 HappyChris wrote:On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:16 Poebes wrote:
''I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.''-DongRaeGu
Maybe the progamers are right. Cause MVP actually did analyse his style via his stream and had the perfect counter to his buildorder. I dont want to be annoying, but isnt there a possibilty that the progamers are right? Cause after all they are the ones with the most knowledge of StarCraft II.
Not to take something away from Stephano, he is still a great player! I just hope the progamers are wrong.
Stephano fighting!! Where do you take this from ? do you have the link of this interview please ? Also i think DRG is wrong and fall into the simplist way to take this stuff. everybody says "stephano has one style and will be figured out"; but this is UBER SHIT ! I think stephano is today the pro zerg with the most eclectic variety of styles in every match-up, the ones who say he has "one style" just follow him since 2 weeks or never saw him and say this coz mister Idra sayd so. In ZvP he can go either : - Baneling burst - Roach all-in (like we saw today) - Mass roach (with or without drops) - Mutas (this is the style he does the less i admit) - Mass roach hydra with corruptors - Zergings or roach infestors - Fast Infestors into BL And in late game he always BL or ultras. This is one of the most complete zerg in PvZ, he knows how to play everything. I will not do the same thing with ZvT but this is the same thing: Mutas + burrow blings / roch infest into BL / Ling upgrade into infest into BL/Ultras etc.... He is just so creative that he can plays everything with the stephano touch that makes him so singular. Amen AIOL. The he will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so is just getting old. We got MVP praising Stephano. Who gives a shit what Idra says. Idra is intimidated by Stephano and he should be because Stephano is getting better and better and I cant wait until they meet in a tournament whoa whoa whoa hold your horses there, idrA said that steph unique style is what the koreans will evantually figure out, and we can actually see that it is happening (MVP read him like a book) idrA did not say that steph is a one trick phony that can be figured out easily or anything similar, he also he said that stephano is a really smart player. why the hell you turn everything he said so badly :/ Because Stephano allways only sayd nice thing about Idra. But idra keep saying that Stephano is overrated and gonna get figured out in alot of interviews. Its the same with Nerchio. Its all about PR and its pissing me off. What happend to just respecting there opponents an up and comming players. Really if every new player to the scene has todo what Stephano has done just to get a foothold and impress fans well then we wont have any new players in the foreign scene. And maybe thats why we see so little talent in the forum scene?
at the begining when idrA said that steph is "overrated", i also disagreed with him, but then i realisied that he was talking about some of the people calling him bonjwa, saying he is the best player in the world and that he is capable of winning the GSL.
(well, every top player has these people, but after steph major tourny wins it went pretty Vocal :/)
about the figured out comment, i dont understand why its sound like a bad thing :/
stephano has indeed a unique style that need to be figured out in order to beat... that explains his amazing win streaks against top players.
i think the "figured out" comment could also apply to idrA in his early sc2 days, when people were not aware of his shaky early game, super greedy macro opening style.
imo if people did not know they were playing idrA he would have win more xD
about the PR... cant blame anyone from being pissed off about him :/
he never sugar coats things and speaks his mind directly... so he always sounds rough when he shares his opinion about someone :/
personally i dont really care who is better, im just glad that there are such amazing foraigners who can bring such good games and beat top korean players!
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On December 13 2011 02:34 AIOL! wrote:
(with or without drops)
with or without drops...... with or without drops......
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Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play.
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On December 13 2011 03:44 ArcticRaven wrote:with or without drops...... with or without drops......
Magic, you made me sing in my head against my own will !
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On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play.
That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans.
Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!!
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On December 13 2011 04:14 GreyMasta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Was really impressed with his first two games, completely outclassing HerO and DongRaeGu, but that all-in against MC was facepalm-worthy (especially on Dual Sight in his best matchup...why all-in? Could have easily denied the 3rd and won in a macro game) and then getting read like a book by MVP. Pure ling (which Stephano has been known to do in ZvT) gets annihilated by that timing, and MVP was all over it.
He could have definitely advanced today if not for some silly decision making. Looking forward to his play. That is the kind of post that makes Stephano's fans far more superior in terms of quality than most other "star player"'s fans. Stephano's fans: Keep it critique, keep it fair and balance, keep it rational and FFS STOP with those Stephano's best player of the world troll threads!!!!
i don't see the slightest kind of "STEPHANO BEST IN DA WORLD FTW YOU NOOB !! XD LOL" in this post. This is just a subjective point of view of guy expressing how he sees the things. And all what he says is rational, he might would remplace "outclassing" by beating and it would be the perfoect post  You're the vilain here, sorry :s
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