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On October 12 2012 09:13 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 09:05 redviper wrote:On October 12 2012 06:37 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 06:15 Mr.Faces wrote:
Ridiculous banter about the term bonjwa. Fuck that word. Who gives a fuck. I hate it as much as that whole mentally retarded 'hwaiting' bullshit. To hell with you.
Let's just use an english word: God.
He is the most successful sc2 player to date by a WIDE margin. Game over fellows. Get off your seats, stand up, bow and salute the man. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. The facts stand. We call him the King. God's not very original. Emperor's been taken, Genius Terrans been taken, Tyrant, Revolutionist, all that's been used. But Mvp is the first person to be called "the king"! God is pretty original. We know there is only one, and His name is IMMvp. It's been used before I mean (Flash). Plus my favorite line when cheering for mvp is "all hail the king" haha. "The King" is even on the frontpage of this fan club! =)
Agreed. MVP is The King and Game Genie Terran. Honestly think these are the only proper two nicknames that have stuck. Been a tonne of others but watchers and casters seem to use both of these a fair bit.
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I have to say I like the Terran King dynamic.
Perhaps we can call him the King of Wings considering he practically beat Wings of Liberty. 
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Can we get TheBest to just give MVP his name? Just so he wouldn't need a nickname.
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Mvp is already a fine name - Most Valuable Player sounds just about right.
Besides, I think Mvp is a good name for him. Calling him TheBest while he opens Banshees just wouldn't feel right, you know?
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But imagine the hilarity that would ensue when he used them well. MVP is the best.
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if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it"
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On October 12 2012 14:32 IshinShishi wrote:
if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it"
Hahahaha, I second this! I will do this as well!
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On October 12 2012 14:32 IshinShishi wrote:
if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it"
BUT HE DIDN'T DOMINATE BW SO HE CANNOT BE A BONJWA, HOW DARE YOU SULLY THAT SACRED WORD WHICH IS NOT NEARLY AS PRESTIGIOUS AS SOME WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE
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I really hope TL implements a no b-word policy soon.
Anyways practice well Mvp and crush Life!
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On October 12 2012 15:41 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 14:32 IshinShishi wrote:
if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it" Hahahaha, I second this! I will do this as well!
I third this. Sounds like a great idea. Wins GSL with broken back and wrists? NPNP, ezpz.
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On October 12 2012 16:41 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 15:41 Azzur wrote:On October 12 2012 14:32 IshinShishi wrote:
if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it" Hahahaha, I second this! I will do this as well! I third this. Sounds like a great idea. Wins GSL with broken back and wrists? NPNP, ezpz.
I wouldn't mind doing this. Sorry TaeJa, you gotta make room for the Terran King.
Of course, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Who knows, maybe Mvp could actually...
Nah.
Mvp will win the finals, definitely. :D
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hey guys, i won't be able to man the LR thread for the finals, sorry T_T
need to call off the hype you were doing for me, but feel free to do it anyway ;p
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On Mvp's twitter, he just posted "celebrating 600 days." Do you guys know what he's referring to? Is it his relationship with his girlfriend?
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On October 12 2012 08:23 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 07:58 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 12 2012 07:18 killy666 wrote: people dont randomly increase and decrease in skill I don't wanna chime in on the rest of the debate as I didn't follow it (and to be honest i don't care) but i find this sentence to be completely false. People are not machine and there is bound to be change in performance and execution, even skill through lack of training and other various physical and psychological factors. of course i did not say that people are stuck at the skill level they are at On October 12 2012 07:23 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 07:07 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 04:37 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:35 redviper wrote:
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Your argument is faulty because you are generalizing based on a selective poll.
Worse there is some weird shit going on with the defense of bonjwa. MVP is the bonjwa because you don't own the term. BW doesn't own the term. Why is that word so precious to you bw fans? MVP isn't just the king, he is the God. And he is the only bonjwa in SC2.
If he wins this final even the general opinion will place him as a bonjwa. And we can all point out how we knew he was a bonjwa even before he won his fourth title.
Oh also MVP is THE bonjwa. Not just a former bonjwa like all the old ones. haha k w.e you say buddy. I've been an mvp fan since he took a game off flash in 2010. I'm even the first person to sign up for this fanclub. But you're just fucking ridiculous lol. You can call him w.e you want. The korean community decides who becomes a bonjwa anyway, so I guess tastosis will let us know when he actually becomes one. cya later The way you throw around that title I feel awful for Jaedong. Someone who's accomplished 3x as much as mvp, and still isn't a bonjwa. What a poor fellow =( Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false On October 11 2012 05:00 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:
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Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! edit: well from your history in this thread it seems like you've been trying to fight for mvp's bonjwa status since he won 3 championships (and right before he lost to mma the next season LOL). Keep fighting the good fight bro. I feel awful having to downplay mvp when he's my favorite gsl player. But god people like you are annoying Technically Mvp has had that 'aura of dominance' already, during 2011 he was HEAVILY favoured against anyone, and any loss was an upset. Just like BoxeR and NaDa were after their peaks, Mvp has peaked, is still very good, but has left behind that aura of dominance. The reason Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa was because Flash overshadowed him so much, it had nothing to do with his trophies, if Flash hadn't been playing he'd obviously be a bonjwa. where as mma topped mvp for a while, then fell off again. he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. i guarantee he was never a better player. he was never thef avourite in any match or bigger favourite against any player. people dont randomly increase and decrease in skill On October 12 2012 02:54 kollin wrote:On October 12 2012 02:25 Luepert wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:
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Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false On October 11 2012 05:00 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 InoyouS2 wrote:
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Technically Mvp has had that 'aura of dominance' already, during 2011 he was HEAVILY favoured against anyone, and any loss was an upset. Just like BoxeR and NaDa were after their peaks, Mvp has peaked, is still very good, but has left behind that aura of dominance.
The reason Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa was because Flash overshadowed him so much, it had nothing to do with his trophies, if Flash hadn't been playing he'd obviously be a bonjwa. where as mma topped mvp for a while, then fell off again. he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. There was 1 day between MMA beating MVP in GSL and MVP winning blizzcon. A VERY short time period indeed. Hey, you've got to take it when you can get it. what Maybe not a better player overall, but in their head to head's he was. And that's what matters most when comparing 2 players matters in comparing them how? he wasnt the better player in their h2hs On October 12 2012 07:33 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 07:26 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 07:23 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 07:07 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:
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Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false On October 11 2012 05:00 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 InoyouS2 wrote:
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Technically Mvp has had that 'aura of dominance' already, during 2011 he was HEAVILY favoured against anyone, and any loss was an upset. Just like BoxeR and NaDa were after their peaks, Mvp has peaked, is still very good, but has left behind that aura of dominance.
The reason Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa was because Flash overshadowed him so much, it had nothing to do with his trophies, if Flash hadn't been playing he'd obviously be a bonjwa. where as mma topped mvp for a while, then fell off again. he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. i guarantee he was never a better player. he was never thef avourite in any match or bigger favourite against any player. people dont randomly increase and decrease in skill On October 12 2012 02:54 kollin wrote:On October 12 2012 02:25 Luepert wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
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it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false
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he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. There was 1 day between MMA beating MVP in GSL and MVP winning blizzcon. A VERY short time period indeed. Hey, you've got to take it when you can get it. what Maybe not a better player overall, but in their head to head's he was. And that's what matters most when comparing 2 players No it isn't, sorry. Nice arguement, but MMA is 9-5 vs Mvp historically in the gsl. It doesn't mean mvp is the lesser player, but that mma had mvp's number. It's the same way with mvp having mkp's number. thats not proof of him having mvps number. On October 12 2012 07:41 rysecake wrote:
You cannot be a bonjwa when someone has your number. source? every bonjwa in history. They had no equals during their heyday. But eventually they were knocked off their throne by the next great.
thats not a source for anything. where is your source why someone cant be that madeup thing with no definition if someone "has your number", whatever that means
On October 12 2012 08:33 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 07:58 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 12 2012 07:18 killy666 wrote: people dont randomly increase and decrease in skill I don't wanna chime in on the rest of the debate as I didn't follow it (and to be honest i don't care) but i find this sentence to be completely false. People are not machine and there is bound to be change in performance and execution, even skill through lack of training and other various physical and psychological factors. of course i did not say that people are stuck at the skill level they are at On October 12 2012 07:23 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 07:07 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:On October 11 2012 04:37 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:35 redviper wrote:
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Your argument is faulty because you are generalizing based on a selective poll.
Worse there is some weird shit going on with the defense of bonjwa. MVP is the bonjwa because you don't own the term. BW doesn't own the term. Why is that word so precious to you bw fans? MVP isn't just the king, he is the God. And he is the only bonjwa in SC2.
If he wins this final even the general opinion will place him as a bonjwa. And we can all point out how we knew he was a bonjwa even before he won his fourth title.
Oh also MVP is THE bonjwa. Not just a former bonjwa like all the old ones. haha k w.e you say buddy. I've been an mvp fan since he took a game off flash in 2010. I'm even the first person to sign up for this fanclub. But you're just fucking ridiculous lol. You can call him w.e you want. The korean community decides who becomes a bonjwa anyway, so I guess tastosis will let us know when he actually becomes one. cya later The way you throw around that title I feel awful for Jaedong. Someone who's accomplished 3x as much as mvp, and still isn't a bonjwa. What a poor fellow =( Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false On October 11 2012 05:00 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:
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Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! edit: well from your history in this thread it seems like you've been trying to fight for mvp's bonjwa status since he won 3 championships (and right before he lost to mma the next season LOL). Keep fighting the good fight bro. I feel awful having to downplay mvp when he's my favorite gsl player. But god people like you are annoying Technically Mvp has had that 'aura of dominance' already, during 2011 he was HEAVILY favoured against anyone, and any loss was an upset. Just like BoxeR and NaDa were after their peaks, Mvp has peaked, is still very good, but has left behind that aura of dominance. The reason Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa was because Flash overshadowed him so much, it had nothing to do with his trophies, if Flash hadn't been playing he'd obviously be a bonjwa. where as mma topped mvp for a while, then fell off again. he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. i guarantee he was never a better player. he was never thef avourite in any match or bigger favourite against any player. people dont randomly increase and decrease in skill On October 12 2012 02:54 kollin wrote:On October 12 2012 02:25 Luepert wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:
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Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false On October 11 2012 05:00 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 InoyouS2 wrote:
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Technically Mvp has had that 'aura of dominance' already, during 2011 he was HEAVILY favoured against anyone, and any loss was an upset. Just like BoxeR and NaDa were after their peaks, Mvp has peaked, is still very good, but has left behind that aura of dominance.
The reason Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa was because Flash overshadowed him so much, it had nothing to do with his trophies, if Flash hadn't been playing he'd obviously be a bonjwa. where as mma topped mvp for a while, then fell off again. he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. There was 1 day between MMA beating MVP in GSL and MVP winning blizzcon. A VERY short time period indeed. Hey, you've got to take it when you can get it. what Maybe not a better player overall, but in their head to head's he was. And that's what matters most when comparing 2 players matters in comparing them how? he wasnt the better player in their h2hs On October 12 2012 07:33 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 07:26 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 12 2012 07:23 rysecake wrote:On October 12 2012 07:07 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On October 11 2012 04:47 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:44 redviper wrote:
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Really? Jaedong has won 12 GSLs? Damn thats really impressive. Yep. Wanna know what's even more impressive? That the majority of TL favored naniwa, parting, and rain to beat mvp. Man this guy sure seems invincible! it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false On October 11 2012 05:00 rysecake wrote:On October 11 2012 04:56 InoyouS2 wrote:
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Technically Mvp has had that 'aura of dominance' already, during 2011 he was HEAVILY favoured against anyone, and any loss was an upset. Just like BoxeR and NaDa were after their peaks, Mvp has peaked, is still very good, but has left behind that aura of dominance.
The reason Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa was because Flash overshadowed him so much, it had nothing to do with his trophies, if Flash hadn't been playing he'd obviously be a bonjwa. where as mma topped mvp for a while, then fell off again. he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. i guarantee he was never a better player. he was never thef avourite in any match or bigger favourite against any player. people dont randomly increase and decrease in skill On October 12 2012 02:54 kollin wrote:On October 12 2012 02:25 Luepert wrote:On October 11 2012 23:58 kollin wrote:On October 11 2012 19:09 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
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it doesent matter if they favoured amateur parting and naniwa when its so false
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he was never better in any way Yes he was, around October arguably MMA was the better player. Though that is of course a very short time period. There was 1 day between MMA beating MVP in GSL and MVP winning blizzcon. A VERY short time period indeed. Hey, you've got to take it when you can get it. what Maybe not a better player overall, but in their head to head's he was. And that's what matters most when comparing 2 players No it isn't, sorry. Nice arguement, but MMA is 9-5 vs Mvp historically in the gsl. It doesn't mean mvp is the lesser player, but that mma had mvp's number. It's the same way with mvp having mkp's number. thats not proof of him having mvps number. On October 12 2012 07:41 rysecake wrote:
You cannot be a bonjwa when someone has your number. source? You seem to just be making stuff up now. You are literally denying facts, such as MMA coming out far and away ahead in their head to heads.
huh, what making up? what denying?
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On October 12 2012 14:32 IshinShishi wrote:
if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it"
I'm up for this.
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Nobody would predict a bonjwa to lose a series.
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On October 13 2012 00:53 Aunvilgod wrote:
Nobody would predict a bonjwa to lose a series.
So bonjwa is dependent on people being smart. Oh God that is horrible. MVP should have been favored vs Nania, Parting, Squirtle, symbol and rain. If he's not how is it his fault? People are just stupid because the don't recognize that MVP is really good. MVP was still one of the most underrated players on the scene untill he beat rain, now he's maybe overrated. My point is getting a title should be based on skill, which he has, not popularity, if that was the case, Idra would be a bonjwa.
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On October 12 2012 16:41 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 15:41 Azzur wrote:On October 12 2012 14:32 IshinShishi wrote:
if mvp wins we should all change our signature to "MVP 1st sc2 bonjwa, deal with it" Hahahaha, I second this! I will do this as well! I third this. Sounds like a great idea. Wins GSL with broken back and wrists? NPNP, ezpz.
Also doing this
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On October 13 2012 00:53 Aunvilgod wrote:
Nobody would predict a bonjwa to lose a series.
Nobody should honestly predict against MVP anyway. Every time he loses it's honestly a shock to me, but other people and TL writers seem to often think MVP (for whatever reason) should be an underdog.
I know people hyped Rain, Symbol, Parting, Squirtle, etc but honestly the entire time there was no way they were favoured, just burning more brightly than before and some people get tired of the long lasting King.
I guess recently he's had the Ro16 finishes in OSL, GSLs3 and HSC IV which made people forget again, but each time he dropped out of any of those people were left shocked.
So yes: some people seem to bet against MVP, yet pretty much everyone is shocked when he falls out of a tournament.
P.S. Not saying he's a bonjwa, on the fence for that. Honestly if he hadn't have lost to Leenock or MMA 2/4 times at the end of 2011 it would be undisputed.
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