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4rChon
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
150 Posts
January 19 2012 19:54 GMT
#2921
wtf i thought i was already a member >.< sign me up for the fan club!
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
January 19 2012 19:54 GMT
#2922
--- Nuked ---
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 20:02:10
January 19 2012 19:59 GMT
#2923
On January 20 2012 04:41 Mindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 04:21 Corsica wrote:
On January 20 2012 02:35 Eshra wrote:
First of all, i'm not the one bitching about Naniwa here.
I'm just wondering why you people can't discuss about a player in a realistic way. Does being in a fanclub mean you're just allowed to say " oh god ur so handsome, u'll win it u beauty beast " ?


Thats a characteristic of fanboys, which nani has a lot of.


This is the "fact" you started arguing about:

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 00:00 Corsica wrote:
He is probably too full of himself and feels like losing to Strelok is like Idra losing to minigun, I think he is capable of probe rushing again. Naniwa hates to do bad more than anyone else.


I'm pretty sure he's burnt himself enough by probe rushing once and won't do it again in the foreseeable future...So it's not a very realistic way to discuss anything. I also don't think any fan of Nani's argues that he has quite unfortunate ways of voicing his displeasure with things, but I just don't care, because he's better at SC than most of the nice guys. (I can only assume that's the way with others as well.)

Now you may stop generalizing and insulting 90% of the posters on Naniwa's fanpage in one entry.


Looking at his personality I dont think he gave a damn after gom voiced their decision. I just dont understand why he has to raise this drama, by saying he forfeits tournament... its bad for fans, his team, sponsors, etc. Its like same thing over again. Yes you lost a game to a worse player because of lag, yes IEM is to blame, but giving up like that ??? Really??? Top 3 Foreigner players?

P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 20:15:12
January 19 2012 20:08 GMT
#2924
On January 20 2012 04:59 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 04:41 Mindor wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:21 Corsica wrote:
On January 20 2012 02:35 Eshra wrote:
First of all, i'm not the one bitching about Naniwa here.
I'm just wondering why you people can't discuss about a player in a realistic way. Does being in a fanclub mean you're just allowed to say " oh god ur so handsome, u'll win it u beauty beast " ?


Thats a characteristic of fanboys, which nani has a lot of.


This is the "fact" you started arguing about:

On January 20 2012 00:00 Corsica wrote:
He is probably too full of himself and feels like losing to Strelok is like Idra losing to minigun, I think he is capable of probe rushing again. Naniwa hates to do bad more than anyone else.


I'm pretty sure he's burnt himself enough by probe rushing once and won't do it again in the foreseeable future...So it's not a very realistic way to discuss anything. I also don't think any fan of Nani's argues that he has quite unfortunate ways of voicing his displeasure with things, but I just don't care, because he's better at SC than most of the nice guys. (I can only assume that's the way with others as well.)

Now you may stop generalizing and insulting 90% of the posters on Naniwa's fanpage in one entry.


Looking at his personality I dont think he gave a damn after gom voiced their decision. I just dont understand why he has to raise this drama, by saying he forfeits tournament... its bad for fans, his team, sponsors, etc. Its like same thing over again. Yes you lost a game to a worse player because of lag, yes IEM is to blame, but giving up like that ??? Really??? Top 3 Foreigner players?

P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans.


"P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans."

But that's exactly what your doing when you write like that in his fanclub. You are breaking the fanclub rules so stop ranting We get it your not a fan. So take this discussion elsewhere and not in his fanclub. Please!

You don't have to constantly remind us that NaNiwa isn't "mr manner" like White_Ra. We know this already and you need to learn that there is actually people who like bm/entertaining players. But NaNiwa is in no way a bad person. In real life he seems like a really nice person atleast that's my opinion. When he plays he might be a bit of a bad loser if he loses but that's just because he wants to win so badly. As you said earlier "Naniwa hates to do bad more than anyone else".

I thought this discussion was done already....
Mindor
Profile Joined December 2011
169 Posts
January 19 2012 20:29 GMT
#2925
On January 20 2012 04:59 Corsica wrote:

Looking at his personality I dont think he gave a damn after gom voiced their decision. I just dont understand why he has to raise this drama, by saying he forfeits tournament... its bad for fans, his team, sponsors, etc. Its like same thing over again. Yes you lost a game to a worse player because of lag, yes IEM is to blame, but giving up like that ??? Really??? Top 3 Foreigner players?

P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans.


I'd say, chances are that he gave a whole lot of damn about gom taking away his code s spot, not necessarily about how gom felt about the whole thing though. I guess, we'll never know for sure.

I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, his career, his life, his decisions. Granted, it would be better for his rep and maybe the number of his fans if someone slapped him before he does shit like this, but I don't care. Making real life decisions that are regarded as bad by the general public doesn't affect his abilities as a gamer, so in my (admittedly biased) opinion he's more than qualified to call himself top 3 foreigner.

It's fine when someone's nice and polite by nature, but I'd rather have players like Nani not force themselves to change into something they aren't. Given his track record and how much he hates losing, I wasn't exactly surprised that he didn't want to go through the tournament if the circumstances didn't get better.

P.S. See? No flaming anywhere!
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 21:01:22
January 19 2012 20:45 GMT
#2926
On January 20 2012 05:29 Mindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 04:59 Corsica wrote:

Looking at his personality I dont think he gave a damn after gom voiced their decision. I just dont understand why he has to raise this drama, by saying he forfeits tournament... its bad for fans, his team, sponsors, etc. Its like same thing over again. Yes you lost a game to a worse player because of lag, yes IEM is to blame, but giving up like that ??? Really??? Top 3 Foreigner players?

P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans.


I'd say, chances are that he gave a whole lot of damn about gom taking away his code s spot, not necessarily about how gom felt about the whole thing though. I guess, we'll never know for sure.

I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, his career, his life, his decisions. Granted, it would be better for his rep and maybe the number of his fans if someone slapped him before he does shit like this, but I don't care. Making real life decisions that are regarded as bad by the general public doesn't affect his abilities as a gamer, so in my (admittedly biased) opinion he's more than qualified to call himself top 3 foreigner.

It's fine when someone's nice and polite by nature, but I'd rather have players like Nani not force themselves to change into something they aren't. Given his track record and how much he hates losing, I wasn't exactly surprised that he didn't want to go through the tournament if the circumstances didn't get better.

P.S. See? No flaming anywhere!


The funny thing is that people are blowing things out of proportion no matter what NaNiwa does. It's like they compare him to some kind of gangster who murders for fun or whatever.

He's a gamer....... he hasn't physically assaulted anyone...... the worst thing he has done is probably that probe rush..... and people are overreacting so extremely much no matter what he does. It really makes me think about what kind of values people have and how they look at life outside of gaming and if they have ever compared naniwa's actions to similar actions outside of gaming. And then maybe realize how insignificant naniwa's actions really is in comparison to life outside of gaming.

If i told this to my parents they would probably laugh their asses off. Im sure most grown ups who aren't into gaming would think that people who reacts like this really needs to get a job and get real.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 19 2012 20:56 GMT
#2927
Naniwa fightiiiiing!!!!

Dont care abolut nothing, just play your game and win some tourneys!!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Mindor
Profile Joined December 2011
169 Posts
January 19 2012 22:55 GMT
#2928
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


<3
Cable
Profile Joined January 2011
116 Posts
January 20 2012 07:52 GMT
#2929
You better sign me up too, damn it. He's so cute and adorable!
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
January 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#2930
NaNiwa is guaranteed top8 between. But hopefully he will get 1st place
FiNTer
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland153 Posts
January 20 2012 18:05 GMT
#2931
On January 20 2012 05:45 Waterflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:29 Mindor wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 Corsica wrote:

Looking at his personality I dont think he gave a damn after gom voiced their decision. I just dont understand why he has to raise this drama, by saying he forfeits tournament... its bad for fans, his team, sponsors, etc. Its like same thing over again. Yes you lost a game to a worse player because of lag, yes IEM is to blame, but giving up like that ??? Really??? Top 3 Foreigner players?

P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans.


I'd say, chances are that he gave a whole lot of damn about gom taking away his code s spot, not necessarily about how gom felt about the whole thing though. I guess, we'll never know for sure.

I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, his career, his life, his decisions. Granted, it would be better for his rep and maybe the number of his fans if someone slapped him before he does shit like this, but I don't care. Making real life decisions that are regarded as bad by the general public doesn't affect his abilities as a gamer, so in my (admittedly biased) opinion he's more than qualified to call himself top 3 foreigner.

It's fine when someone's nice and polite by nature, but I'd rather have players like Nani not force themselves to change into something they aren't. Given his track record and how much he hates losing, I wasn't exactly surprised that he didn't want to go through the tournament if the circumstances didn't get better.

P.S. See? No flaming anywhere!


The funny thing is that people are blowing things out of proportion no matter what NaNiwa does. It's like they compare him to some kind of gangster who murders for fun or whatever.

He's a gamer....... he hasn't physically assaulted anyone...... the worst thing he has done is probably that probe rush..... and people are overreacting so extremely much no matter what he does. It really makes me think about what kind of values people have and how they look at life outside of gaming and if they have ever compared naniwa's actions to similar actions outside of gaming. And then maybe realize how insignificant naniwa's actions really is in comparison to life outside of gaming.

If i told this to my parents they would probably laugh their asses off. Im sure most grown ups who aren't into gaming would think that people who reacts like this really needs to get a job and get real.

OH THE DRAMA and btw sign me in think im not signed yet
Slayers`terran fan
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 19:01:49
January 20 2012 18:59 GMT
#2932
On January 21 2012 03:05 FiNTer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:45 Waterflow wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:29 Mindor wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 Corsica wrote:

Looking at his personality I dont think he gave a damn after gom voiced their decision. I just dont understand why he has to raise this drama, by saying he forfeits tournament... its bad for fans, his team, sponsors, etc. Its like same thing over again. Yes you lost a game to a worse player because of lag, yes IEM is to blame, but giving up like that ??? Really??? Top 3 Foreigner players?

P.S I dont want to argue with you nor I want to what you call insult nani's fans.


I'd say, chances are that he gave a whole lot of damn about gom taking away his code s spot, not necessarily about how gom felt about the whole thing though. I guess, we'll never know for sure.

I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, his career, his life, his decisions. Granted, it would be better for his rep and maybe the number of his fans if someone slapped him before he does shit like this, but I don't care. Making real life decisions that are regarded as bad by the general public doesn't affect his abilities as a gamer, so in my (admittedly biased) opinion he's more than qualified to call himself top 3 foreigner.

It's fine when someone's nice and polite by nature, but I'd rather have players like Nani not force themselves to change into something they aren't. Given his track record and how much he hates losing, I wasn't exactly surprised that he didn't want to go through the tournament if the circumstances didn't get better.

P.S. See? No flaming anywhere!


The funny thing is that people are blowing things out of proportion no matter what NaNiwa does. It's like they compare him to some kind of gangster who murders for fun or whatever.

He's a gamer....... he hasn't physically assaulted anyone...... the worst thing he has done is probably that probe rush..... and people are overreacting so extremely much no matter what he does. It really makes me think about what kind of values people have and how they look at life outside of gaming and if they have ever compared naniwa's actions to similar actions outside of gaming. And then maybe realize how insignificant naniwa's actions really is in comparison to life outside of gaming.

If i told this to my parents they would probably laugh their asses off. Im sure most grown ups who aren't into gaming would think that people who reacts like this really needs to get a job and get real.

OH THE DRAMA and btw sign me in think im not signed yet


yeah but that's basically how it is People are bitching about everything these days.
Mindor
Profile Joined December 2011
169 Posts
January 20 2012 22:03 GMT
#2933
Lol @ Kiev fail...giant German flag next to Naniwa's name in the playoff schedule.
He's playing tomorrow at 17.30 GMT according to the site. Also QQ at the draw, instead of Pomi or Feast Nani gets Zenio and next round is MMA if he advances.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 21 2012 00:13 GMT
#2934
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Kiev

If Nani can win the first 2 matchups vs Zenio and (probably) MMA, he can probably take the whole thing.. GOGOGOG NAni :D
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
January 21 2012 00:17 GMT
#2935
On January 21 2012 09:13 aderum wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Kiev

If Nani can win the first 2 matchups vs Zenio and (probably) MMA, he can probably take the whole thing.. GOGOGOG NAni :D


If Nani plays his normal sick game, Zenio and MMA shouldnt be a problem. They both almost lost to way worse players. Hope he prepars for some tricky builds from MMA, his straight up TvP looks kinda bad.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 21 2012 00:19 GMT
#2936
Naniwa is going against Zenio in his worst match up (33%) and MMA's worst matchup (45%). And MMA is going up against Feast first, so that might give Nani a pretty good idea how to play against him. Overall, Nani's road looks pretty good
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 21 2012 00:20 GMT
#2937
On January 21 2012 09:17 Morale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:13 aderum wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Kiev

If Nani can win the first 2 matchups vs Zenio and (probably) MMA, he can probably take the whole thing.. GOGOGOG NAni :D


If Nani plays his normal sick game, Zenio and MMA shouldnt be a problem. They both almost lost to way worse players. Hope he prepars for some tricky builds from MMA, his straight up TvP looks kinda bad.


Yeah i belive he has a chance. I hope he can play to his best and this will be a good weekend =D
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#2938
On January 21 2012 07:03 Mindor wrote:
Lol @ Kiev fail...giant German flag next to Naniwa's name in the playoff schedule.
He's playing tomorrow at 17.30 GMT according to the site. Also QQ at the draw, instead of Pomi or Feast Nani gets Zenio and next round is MMA if he advances.

Because he made his ESL account while in Germany and hasn't bothered to change it, not ESL/IEM's fault.
Sackings
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada457 Posts
January 21 2012 01:43 GMT
#2939
if zenio plays like he did against nightend nani is going to roll him easily.... against MMA i expect some 1base terran shenanigans, pretty sure that nani can beat him in a macro game
naniwa fighting!!!
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
January 21 2012 02:32 GMT
#2940
I so hope he will win over Zenio and play against MMA. It would be such a good game!
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