EPTCruncher Fan club - Page 26
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
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Loki57
United States292 Posts
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damod
1106 Posts
On May 08 2011 03:00 Loki57 wrote: This thread has doubled in size since the stream incident. Are any of you actually fans of cruncher or do you just come here to hate idra and troll people? 0/10's, 0/10's everywhere.jpg i agree 100% with this. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On May 07 2011 22:13 Leavzou wrote: I am reassured.. I could not beleave someone think cruncher > idra ): Ladder games are meaningless. Who cares if you win or lose a ladder game? Literally nothing depends on it. Games testing someone's mental fortitude under pressure are a much better indicator of skill. And as far as it goes, I think that Cruncher would beat Idra in most BoX series due to his ability to play on Idra's style and lack of willingness to adapt. | ||
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RemindQQ
Germany1 Post
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On May 08 2011 04:37 Nevuk wrote: Ladder games are meaningless. Who cares if you win or lose a ladder game? Literally nothing depends on it. Games testing someone's mental fortitude under pressure are a much better indicator of skill. And as far as it goes, I think that Cruncher would beat Idra in most BoX series due to his ability to play on Idra's style and lack of willingness to adapt. Um, they are both at 3-3 vs eachother in tournaments, and since the last time they played the strats Cruncher have used were nerfed and Idra has been on a tear, where as Cruncher hasn't done much. Don't see how you could think Cruncher could beat him a b.o w/e. (doesn't help he's 1-8 vs Idra on ladder too) | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On May 08 2011 04:37 Nevuk wrote: Ladder games are meaningless. Who cares if you win or lose a ladder game? Literally nothing depends on it. Games testing someone's mental fortitude under pressure are a much better indicator of skill. And as far as it goes, I think that Cruncher would beat Idra in most BoX series due to his ability to play on Idra's style and lack of willingness to adapt. dont forget that the games in TSL were played post patch 1.3, after the patch most of the ladder games idra played with cruncher was nearly a win for idra. saying cruncher wasnt serious in the ladder games against idrA imo is just makeing exuses for his loses. and you cant just say ladder games are meaningless, they are an essential practice method, if they were meaningless then why investing in them so much time and effort, not only by the players, but also by blizzard (like adding the grandmasters league and such). | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On May 08 2011 04:55 damod wrote: dont forget that the games in TSL were played post patch 1.3, after the patch most of the ladder games idra played with cruncher was nearly a win for idra. saying cruncher wasnt serious in the ladder games against idrA imo is just makeing exuses for his loses. and you cant just say ladder games are meaningless, they are an essential practice method, if they were meaningless then why investing in them so much time and effort, not only by the players, but also by blizzard (like adding the grandmasters league and such). They're meaningless, no money is actually on the line. Ladder games are about practicing vs Opponents of a similar or better skill level. This is why grandmasters is implemented - Blizzard thought that they needed more skill level distinctions in order for grandmaster-level players to more frequently meet. If blizzard was handing out thousands of dollars to Grandmaster players for making top of the list then laddering would mean something. But #1 on a ladder means nothing, even Athene can do that. People practice new builds all the time on the ladder, builds that they aren't sure of their effectiveness, etc. People aren't going to play to LOSE in a ladder, but they sometimes aren't playing with winning being the primary motivating factor. The one game of Idra vs Cruncher on ladder that I've seen was one where Cruncher did nothing but troll idra from the 5th minute of the game on, chatting instead of microing units and running up 1000+ minerals on two bases so that he could ask him if he was his best buddy. | ||
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CycoManiac
8 Posts
Whether it's in a tournament or not, cheating is serious business if you're a professional because it affects your reputation. Whether Cruncher was cheating eor not cheating, he now has to deal with the reality that people are going to look at him differently, and even people who say "you can't prove anything" have to acknowledge that it might have happened. I don't think he was cheating (not that it matters what I think) but I still think it's foolish to have someone's stream open while you play them. | ||
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awesomo0O
Tuvalu59 Posts
On May 07 2011 10:00 Klogbert wrote: but at the end of the day Cruncher didn't do anything catastrophically bad, he was forced to edit his post (being that this is a first offense), and IdrA got a 2 day ban (a light sentence IMO). what did cruncher do wrong? did I miss something? | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:41 awesomo0O wrote: what did cruncher do wrong? did I miss something? trolled idras fanclub thread, essentially, after winning | ||
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awesomo0O
Tuvalu59 Posts
On May 07 2011 12:43 HealingproofX wrote: Hahahaha! So pathetic. I have been following teamliquid for about half a year now and I love starcraft. I did not decide to make an account until now. Cruncher is not cheating rofl. IdrA all-ins all the time to compensate for his lack of skills (I mean, come on lol. ZvP on Tal'Darim Altar vs a Protoss you think is "shit" and you still think your best shot for a win is an all-in... rofl). He went forge expand, put 2cannons behind it (OH MY GOD. HE WENT FORGE EXPAND AND MADE CANNONS? HACKER! CHEATER! STREAMGHOSTER!) vs. a Zerg he knows is bad and often goes for all-ins (GSL4- 6pool with drones vs Jinro, NASL- Roach/Ling all-in vs Socke, Dreamhack- 6pool vs MC etc. etc. etc. Let's face it, he all-ins A-friggin-LOT). . Shortly after, IdrA predicts 2 stalkers comming out of the gateways to prove that he's ghosting. Wops, appears 2 zealots that got kited to death popped up. Surely Zealots are the counter to roaches  . Now, what really makes me laugh is the stories people are making up. "He made 4-5 cannons, chronoed out 2stalkers, prepared like crazy without any vision of the all-in.".. like... shut up. If you wanna fanboy that socially disabled douchebag- fine. But stop jumpin on his bandwagon when he goes around calling everybody who goes forge expand "cheaters", just really fcking sad. Also, sign me up for the fanclub =) haha yea, I too had to make an account just for this xD I guess it's actually a good thing for TL lol  | ||
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n00b3rt
Bulgaria890 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
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tehstriker
United States2 Posts
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holycrapitsTony
United States330 Posts
On May 08 2011 06:02 Salteador Neo wrote: I actually watched Chruncher stream before he got any e-fame and I thought many other people did as well. So I imagined TL would like him for streaming and shit, and instead he gets a buttload of hate an jealousy. Oh well. The hate is because he isn't a creative player comparatively speaking. | ||
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drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 08 2011 07:33 holycrapitsTony wrote: The hate is because he isn't a creative player comparatively speaking. You mean compared to other creative NA toss like Incontrol or TT1? Actually the variety in his play is one of Crunchers biggest strengths, so I am not sure what you are talking about. | ||
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raist
Canada90 Posts
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