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On March 18 2012 17:11 Gulzt wrote:
I was wondering about something.
In the last couple of Up & Down matches July goes 10 lord. I'm so curious why. It's proven faster to go 9 lord, most every pro does that, why does July play that different?

Also, if 9 lord is faster, it also has the advantage your overlord is out faster to scout.
Curious what you think.

Against Happy I don't see how it makes sense.
However, vs BoxeR he uses the 10th drone to scout. Could it be that's the reason? After all, if doing it this way you have your scout out earlier while still having 9 drones mining. With the same timing, a 9 lord would mean 8 drones mining..

If my idea is right, it means we should really consider the option of going 10 lord when we intend to drone scout.

It doens't explain everything though. Vs Happy, Supernova & Creator he does a 10 lord without drone scout. So what would be the advantage then?

On March 18 2012 19:32 Napoleon53 wrote:

This is actually very technical issue. But here we go:
There has been lots of threads about this issue before.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118754

Basically the mineral difference is about the same in 9o and 10o. But going 10 lord will delay your larvae for a few seconds (since your hatch will not spawn more larvae if the larvae count is 3 or above).

BUT this lose of larvae might be irrelevant if you are going for a 15 hatch, 14 pool as July did against happy and supernova.
Against Creator july went 13 pool, 15 hatch.

The reason is that while building the 15 hatch and 14 pool for a total of 500minerals you don't have any minerals for drones, so you couldn't use that extra larvae anyway. So going 10overlord actually just mean that you want to get out your buildings faster.

But actually this is not very unusual. I've seen plenty 10ov lately by Koreans(sometimes with extractortrick). Watch leenock ect.

On March 18 2012 21:57 Napoleon53 wrote:
As I see it, there is no advantage of going 10overlord. But if you want out your buildings a little faster then there is no real disadvantage as well.

If you go 10overlord then you are kinda forced into making the buildings faster (because you lose larvae = possibility of going drones)

So the answer is "no". You don't get out your buildings faster. But when going 10overlord, then you are forced into it.

I'm not a 100% sure though. Its very technical, and if there is an advantage or disadvantage i bet it is VERY small. I kinda think Julyzerg dosn't really care, or just do it, because he wants people to be confused.