This is a Fanclub and as such a place for fans to discuss the person in question for which the topic was created. Coming into this topic without having participated in it to criticise her or with the comment that this topic doesn't deserve to be here is unacceptable.
So play nice in here and keep the debates and hate outside please.
On September 02 2011 20:54 Matkap wrote: wow, i listened to toby talk about her on live on three and i though well she just sucked at dota as much as she sucks at sc2...but no...this is a whole other thing, and I really hope whe never gets to work in e-sports ever ever ever again...
i know this is a fanclub and everything, but i think opening a thread only for this would be worse, and this definitly should be disscused, there isnt really much to discuss, but everyone should hear about this "fine lady"
I know I'll get called a whiteknight or some stupid shit, but this is a Dota thing. No reason to drag this shit all over TL, please. What good would come of a discussion regarding this on TL?
Well, you do realize that there is also a DOTA forums on this site? And these posts aren't in SC2 forums, they are in someone's fan club. And the post pertains to that person. I don't get what the problem is...
Also, this is the video that Tobi was referencing. In the first 20-40 seconds, you could see her focusing.
I hate to say it, but you can see her "focusing."
I'll save people the arduousness of watching a 34-minute cast of a game they don't play, but she does not say a word throughout the entire game.
On September 02 2011 20:32 caruso wrote: Come on guys, keep it nice.
Maybe you shouldn't flat out believe everything you hear. If she were a guy she wouldn't get nearly as much hate...
I am pretty neutral when it comes to kelly, but she would not get as much love neither. I have heard both of those things before, and they are pretty disturbing. Would like to hear Kellys side too.
if she was a guy, she would be hated even more. alot of people have been thrown under the bus by the community thats not female, for WAY less. Saying that shes hated because shes a girl is ignorant as hell, and its not me/us beliveing what we hear, proof has been provided trough video-.-
On September 02 2011 20:54 Matkap wrote: wow, i listened to toby talk about her on live on three and i though well she just sucked at dota as much as she sucks at sc2...but no...this is a whole other thing, and I really hope whe never gets to work in e-sports ever ever ever again...
i know this is a fanclub and everything, but i think opening a thread only for this would be worse, and this definitly should be disscused, there isnt really much to discuss, but everyone should hear about this "fine lady"
I know I'll get called a whiteknight or some stupid shit, but this is a Dota thing. No reason to drag this shit all over TL, please. What good would come of a discussion regarding this on TL?
Well, you do realize that there is also a DOTA forums on this site? And these posts aren't in SC2 forums, they are in someone's fan club. And the post pertains to that person. I don't get what the problem is...
Also, this is the video that Tobi was referencing. In the first 20-40 seconds, you could see her focusing.
On September 02 2011 20:54 Matkap wrote: wow, i listened to toby talk about her on live on three and i though well she just sucked at dota as much as she sucks at sc2...but no...this is a whole other thing, and I really hope whe never gets to work in e-sports ever ever ever again...
i know this is a fanclub and everything, but i think opening a thread only for this would be worse, and this definitly should be disscused, there isnt really much to discuss, but everyone should hear about this "fine lady"
I know I'll get called a whiteknight or some stupid shit, but this is a Dota thing. No reason to drag this shit all over TL, please. What good would come of a discussion regarding this on TL?
Well, you do realize that there is also a DOTA forums on this site? And these posts aren't in SC2 forums, they are in someone's fan club. And the post pertains to that person. I don't get what the problem is...
Also, this is the video that Tobi was referencing. In the first 20-40 seconds, you could see her focusing.
Holy shit, that video was painful. I feel for the other commentator dude.
What .... the...... heck.... that was the worst thing I've ever seen a commentator do. You might have a bad day but thats your job to cast. Did she ever work with the dota community after?
According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
I heard it was wetdream and not ocelote, but the point stands. Such a character deserves no exposure, much less a fanclub.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
Is there any where else that this is discussed that I can read? Because I wouldn't mind knowing more, but shitting on Kelly in her own fanclub is abit harsh.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
Right, according to a single source she did some stupid shit. in DOTA. We haven't even heard any other sides of the story (i've said this so many times), and even if it turns out what Tobi was saying was 100% true and she pulled some really bitchy moves, that's STILL not reason to be like "uh, remove her fanclub please kthx.." That's just stupid, and as far as I know not how TL works.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
I have watched it before. Okay, so what? What point are you trying to prove?
Okay, why should this thread be closed? If Idra pulls the finger to another Korean player should his fan club be closed? Of course not.
Listen, this is all of Tobi's viewpoint and perspective, I think thats what your all missing out here. Kelly might've been depressed and couldn't get herself to cast, maybe, from all the bashers?...
But really the question is, does this video really warrant this fan club to be closed?
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
Right, according to a single source she did some stupid shit. in DOTA. We haven't even heard any other sides of the story (i've said this so many times), and even if it turns out what Tobi was saying was 100% true and she pulled some really bitchy moves, that's STILL not reason to be like "uh, remove her fanclub please kthx.." That's just stupid, and as far as I know not how TL works.
@Blaec: not on TL as far as I know, try reddit
Ok tried reddit. There be monsters. Would not recommend that thread to anyone.
Asking for the fan club to be removed is ridiculous. And I hope Kelly just had a bad day at the event in question.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
I have watched it before. Okay, so what? What point are you trying to prove?
Okay, why should this thread be closed? If Idra pulls the finger to another Korean player should his fan club be closed? Of course not.
Listen, this is all of Tobi's viewpoint and perspective, I think thats what your all missing out here. Kelly might've been depressed and couldn't get herself to cast, maybe, from all the bashers?...
But really the question is, does this video really warrant this fan club to be closed?
The point he's trying to prove is that someone like that has no part in this community. I'm not talking about the personal stuff. Although tbh, a lot of it is pretty fucked up and of course people are going to want to talk about it. It's her life, let her do what she wants with it (although tbh when you behave in that way, you've got to be prepared to take the flak that comes with it.) You've made your bed... etc etc...
The main point and reason why it should be discussed on here, is the fact that she was so unprofessional during a cast. Basically threw Tobi under the bus and didn't give a shit. I think what DjWheat said who is a guy that doesn't just go around bashing people for the sake of it pretty much sums it up.
Absolutely unacceptable. I could care less about the Break Up drama, but walking off the stage during a cast? I've been sick as FUCK in Korea during the WCG and I powered through a UT2k4 cast only to completely puke my brains out for the 20 minutes AFTER THE GAME WAS OVER. The point is, anyone who actually takes this seriously... would do exactly the same thing. I can't have respect for someone who's not going to respect the craft.
We need and want more DjWheats to continue to grow. Not KellyMilkies. I'm sorry if this is coming across as player bashing, i've tried to make it a discussion and not hate.
On September 02 2011 23:28 SEA_GenesiS wrote: Listen, this is all of Tobi's viewpoint and perspective, I think thats what your all missing out here. Kelly might've been depressed and couldn't get herself to cast, maybe, from all the bashers?...
But really the question is, does this video really warrant this fan club to be closed?
Similiar viewpoints & perspectives from other people were also mentioned in the 1st "Kelly casting for Code A" thread. And that she doesnt say a word in the whole 34min game is also a hint that it's probably true. And it's unprofessional. Doesnt matter if you're depressed (if you cant handle it dont read the feedback). There is no excuse for something like that. Having a bad day is not an acceptable excuse.
I dont see a reason why the thread should be closed. As long as she doesnt do something similiar again (SC2 has forgiven a lot of past sins for multiple players, like maphackers) Btw - the thread was "dead" for a month until someone brought the drama in.
On September 02 2011 23:15 JimmyHollow wrote: According to some posts from r/starcraft and r/leagueoflegends: "This chick [Kelly].. slept with Ocelote at Gamescon while being with boyfriend and kids.. n/c for this. Such person like that shouldn´t be a public caster :-/"
So can we remove this Fan Club from TL ?
Lol. Are you asking to remove a fan club because of gossip tales? Please dont spread those things without actual proof. Your just making it worse by doing these things.
Even if all the stupid who fucked who drama is fake (which it probably isn't, at least not completely), walking away from a cast and leaving your co-caster to fend for himself on a 16hr/day casting job is god damn ridiculous and should not be supported in any way.
I read the thread in reddit. Maybe it is because i'm old and married, so i don't feel anymore the heinous bitterness toward women of rejected adolescents, but i'm amazed by the lack of empathy, or common sense, of the SC2 community when it comes down to this girl.
So, he stopped casting at a game. Huge deal? Certainly. Maybe she shouldn't read anymore the streams while casting, but if she did, the amount of hate she usually gets could destabilize anyone.
People should also restrain themselves to talk about her private life. Are you Moonglade? Are Kelly? If the answer is no, then, her/their private life is not of your fucking business.
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