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zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
April 10 2013 18:15 GMT
#8221
We all know that feeling MKP always in our hearts !

WE BELIEVE !
SKT1.MK(P) - WE HOPE.
I'm getting the derection.
BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
April 10 2013 19:03 GMT
#8222
soooooooooooo sad to see this result

[Woongjin Stars]
hidetoaizen
Profile Joined January 2013
Norway460 Posts
April 10 2013 19:06 GMT
#8223
oh MarineKing
Nal_rA | Stork | MKP | ㅇㅅㅌㅅ | Shine | do your best whatever whenever wherever ! - LiquidHerO | I don't know about any other day, but today I'm the champion of the world - SouL_Dear
Elison
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
111 Posts
April 10 2013 20:48 GMT
#8224
Sad day indeed. Hopefully he can stay in Code S and at least get his NesTea award.

As for the Prime situation, perhaps moving to other teams is the best decision for the players. As far as I know Prime practices primarily on the ladder. Not only does the Kespa way of practicing seem superior, they are also a lot more financially stable which of course makes for a better practice environment. Oh well, I guess time will tell.
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14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
April 10 2013 21:16 GMT
#8225
On April 10 2013 23:37 opterown wrote:
there are a few rumours circulating about prime's future right now

one is that Najin buys prime as their foothold into korean sc2. i would imagine they would expand prime with better coaching staff and more players rather than just salary them up. however, with prime players not too impressive lately, i am not sure about this happening anymore.

the other option is that prime disbands and their players are picked up by other teams. honestly there are probably only four relevant players right now. boxer is hellbent on getting MKP for SKT, or so i hear. byun might go to KT, he has good friends on that team. maru and creator i'm not sure about, but they have shown a lot of talent in sc2 so far, so i'm sure they will pick up.

to be honest, with the state of prime, i am somewhat surprised they are still around and competing as prime. it's well known that right now they are living off creator and mkp's earnings the last year (they made about 150k last year, plenty to live off for a cheap teamhouse with no salaries). prime started as a clan - a relevant BW analogy might be the by. clan or the [join] clan. clans in BW were often feeders into actual pro teams, and this might happen to prime soon.

it is easier as a prime fan if #1 happens (najin prime) but option #2 is probably better for the individual players. either way, we will probably see after GSTL if any announcements about it happen. ;;


Maybe EG will buy a few :D.
nohole
Profile Joined June 2012
United States56 Posts
April 10 2013 21:23 GMT
#8226
Liquid.Marineking! I'd die of happiness.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 10 2013 21:29 GMT
#8227
If prime ever disbands, he should still keep prime in his name or if he can't just keep the p. SKT1MKP! The mkp name is too iconic now to lose it. EGMK? LiquidMK? Doesn't have the same ring to it. He will always be MKP!!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
April 10 2013 21:31 GMT
#8228
join a Kespa team for better practice.
[Woongjin Stars]
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 10 2013 21:33 GMT
#8229
If Prime is really living off of MKP and Creator's winnings thats just sad -_- they should be saving that money for the future not using it for living expenses of their team.
bearzly
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada184 Posts
April 10 2013 22:03 GMT
#8230
Prime is just not very well managed from a financial point of view sadly. They only have one sponsor afaik (I thought they had the clothing business but I see now that it's no longer on the foreign primezzang site) and they don't do much for TTesports really.

PrimeTV could have been profitable for them, but they did a pretty shoddy job of it and abandoned it after a month with no notice. It's kinda depressing, and I'll be surprised if they are around by the end of the year :/
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
April 10 2013 22:22 GMT
#8231
There is no MKP without P, cmon Prime get your shit together! :S
MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 22:34:04
April 10 2013 22:29 GMT
#8232
As much as i love prime, i want SKT1MarineKing to happen. A good rigorous practice schedule is what he needs honestly, and Maru said in an interview not too long ago that MKP barely ever practices.
MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
April 10 2013 22:31 GMT
#8233
On April 10 2013 23:37 opterown wrote:
there are a few rumours circulating about prime's future right now

one is that Najin buys prime as their foothold into korean sc2. i would imagine they would expand prime with better coaching staff and more players rather than just salary them up. however, with prime players not too impressive lately, i am not sure about this happening anymore.

the other option is that prime disbands and their players are picked up by other teams. honestly there are probably only four relevant players right now. boxer is hellbent on getting MKP for SKT, or so i hear. byun might go to KT, he has good friends on that team. maru and creator i'm not sure about, but they have shown a lot of talent in sc2 so far, so i'm sure they will pick up.

to be honest, with the state of prime, i am somewhat surprised they are still around and competing as prime. it's well known that right now they are living off creator and mkp's earnings the last year (they made about 150k last year, plenty to live off for a cheap teamhouse with no salaries). prime started as a clan - a relevant BW analogy might be the by. clan or the [join] clan. clans in BW were often feeders into actual pro teams, and this might happen to prime soon.

it is easier as a prime fan if #1 happens (najin prime) but option #2 is probably better for the individual players. either way, we will probably see after GSTL if any announcements about it happen. ;;

Do you have any sources for this?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 10 2013 23:09 GMT
#8234
Personally I hope that none of the Prime players end up on a foreign team, the least of which is EG. We might see more of them, but I don't think they will get an ideal practice environment - i.e. they will have to stay with ladder practice (which is pretty much all that they are doing right now). I guess if Coach Park picks some up, that might work - but I am not sure how far EG's SPL plans go in the future?

I would be sad to see Prime break up as well, but keep in mind that Prime is a clan, not a team. Clans are things where a bunch of friends join together and play - it just so happened that Prime clan in early SC2 just happened to have a bunch of good players. They're not set up as a team, with good coaching and practice, but just as a house where they get together and grind games. I mean, Gerrard spends most of him time working with the primezzang website haha. I mentioned BW clans like [name], [jOin], fOu and by. and I don't think Prime is any different from that. It took a few years for BW clan-teams to die and out for real pro-teams to take over, and that's where I think this would come in.

PartinG and MKP are actually best friends haha. Nothing wrong with them being on the same team, MKP was the one who actually persuaded PartinG to pick up SC2. I think we'll see plenty of the players if they join KeSPA teams - there's so much SPL on, and there's still WCS which is the entire year.

I don't think MKP or Creator will try out for WCS NA/EU since that list released is pretty much it, I guess? I expect all the Prime players to stay in Korea.

If you guys want to see Prime stay together, then see if Najin does end up picking Prime. If they were serious about getting in SC2, there's not many Koreans teams they could actually pick up. Hopefully they bring a nice environment and stability to the team, as well as more players and coaching. My sources for this stuff are me paying attention to the scene, talking with prime players now and then, masterbreti (though he doesn't say much directly) and that guy on 4chan who leaked WCS stuff.

In the end, if you guys have paid attention to the scene and heard the rumblings, it should be no surprise that Prime is in trouble. Whether they disband or merge or get bought out, we should all be proud that we were Prime fans when they were the best, and continue supporting the individual players!
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 10 2013 23:21 GMT
#8235
On April 11 2013 07:03 bearzly wrote:
Prime is just not very well managed from a financial point of view sadly. They only have one sponsor afaik (I thought they had the clothing business but I see now that it's no longer on the foreign primezzang site) and they don't do much for TTesports really.

PrimeTV could have been profitable for them, but they did a pretty shoddy job of it and abandoned it after a month with no notice. It's kinda depressing, and I'll be surprised if they are around by the end of the year :/


They actually does alot for TT esports, as they are fairly active in TW (TT is Taiwanese and is not as active in NA/EU as other companies). But it's not realistic to expect TT to support them solely as it's not a huge company.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:35:18
April 11 2013 00:34 GMT
#8236
On April 11 2013 08:09 opterown wrote:
Personally I hope that none of the Prime players end up on a foreign team, the least of which is EG. We might see more of them, but I don't think they will get an ideal practice environment - i.e. they will have to stay with ladder practice (which is pretty much all that they are doing right now). I guess if Coach Park picks some up, that might work - but I am not sure how far EG's SPL plans go in the future?

I would be sad to see Prime break up as well, but keep in mind that Prime is a clan, not a team. Clans are things where a bunch of friends join together and play - it just so happened that Prime clan in early SC2 just happened to have a bunch of good players. They're not set up as a team, with good coaching and practice, but just as a house where they get together and grind games. I mean, Gerrard spends most of him time working with the primezzang website haha. I mentioned BW clans like [name], [jOin], fOu and by. and I don't think Prime is any different from that. It took a few years for BW clan-teams to die and out for real pro-teams to take over, and that's where I think this would come in.

PartinG and MKP are actually best friends haha. Nothing wrong with them being on the same team, MKP was the one who actually persuaded PartinG to pick up SC2. I think we'll see plenty of the players if they join KeSPA teams - there's so much SPL on, and there's still WCS which is the entire year.

I don't think MKP or Creator will try out for WCS NA/EU since that list released is pretty much it, I guess? I expect all the Prime players to stay in Korea.

If you guys want to see Prime stay together, then see if Najin does end up picking Prime. If they were serious about getting in SC2, there's not many Koreans teams they could actually pick up. Hopefully they bring a nice environment and stability to the team, as well as more players and coaching. My sources for this stuff are me paying attention to the scene, talking with prime players now and then, masterbreti (though he doesn't say much directly) and that guy on 4chan who leaked WCS stuff.

In the end, if you guys have paid attention to the scene and heard the rumblings, it should be no surprise that Prime is in trouble. Whether they disband or merge or get bought out, we should all be proud that we were Prime fans when they were the best, and continue supporting the individual players!

I feel like you already know something.

what the hell happened to the weekly prime streams lol
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
April 11 2013 01:35 GMT
#8237
I think everyone should cool down a bit with this talk about Prime disbanding. It's obvious they aren't in the greatest shape financially, but they are definately not dead yet. Some poor performances by Creator and Marineking (and Creator so far did only perform poorly in one matchup while being very stable in the other two) don't mean the team will disband. We saw a strong performance by Byun in the GSTL already. I'm convinced that Maru will deliver in Code S. The only thing that can be really criticized is the weak Zerg lineup of the team and that's hurting the vZ practice of the other players.
On the other hand the team has the greatest teamspirit I've seen so far in SC2. I really hope the team stays together. If they need to merge with another team, that's fine. But please don't split up!
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
April 11 2013 02:08 GMT
#8238
OPterrown and the leak guy from /vg/ seem to be agreeing a bit too much on this subject to just dismiss it sadly, but if the /vg/ guy is correct about Blizzards plan for team leagues in korea, I think the only option of Prime is to split up onto Korean teams. It seems certain MKP would go to SKT, which might very well turn him from an almost championship player to championship player. It seems like Byun would go to KT based on what OPterrown is saying. I'd hazard a guess Creator goes to STX, they are the ones that would most want a strong Protoss player as their toss' lineup is a little bit lacking, I wish he would stay with MarineKing, but that seems unlikely as SKT is most likely not in the market for a Protoss. Maru will go somewhere, but that could be anyone.....I wish they could stay togeather, but I just don't think that is the best thing for the players.

Ehhh....maybe they can make one last GSL run!
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#8239
On April 11 2013 10:35 TeeTS wrote:
I think everyone should cool down a bit with this talk about Prime disbanding. It's obvious they aren't in the greatest shape financially, but they are definately not dead yet. Some poor performances by Creator and Marineking (and Creator so far did only perform poorly in one matchup while being very stable in the other two) don't mean the team will disband. We saw a strong performance by Byun in the GSTL already. I'm convinced that Maru will deliver in Code S. The only thing that can be really criticized is the weak Zerg lineup of the team and that's hurting the vZ practice of the other players.
On the other hand the team has the greatest teamspirit I've seen so far in SC2. I really hope the team stays together. If they need to merge with another team, that's fine. But please don't split up!


If the team is being ran off of MKP and Creator's winnings that's completely unfair to them and the team should just disband. They earned that money and it should be theirs to spend or save, not used to save their team.
DJSub
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 04:28:38
April 11 2013 04:27 GMT
#8240
On April 11 2013 11:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 10:35 TeeTS wrote:
I think everyone should cool down a bit with this talk about Prime disbanding. It's obvious they aren't in the greatest shape financially, but they are definately not dead yet. Some poor performances by Creator and Marineking (and Creator so far did only perform poorly in one matchup while being very stable in the other two) don't mean the team will disband. We saw a strong performance by Byun in the GSTL already. I'm convinced that Maru will deliver in Code S. The only thing that can be really criticized is the weak Zerg lineup of the team and that's hurting the vZ practice of the other players.
On the other hand the team has the greatest teamspirit I've seen so far in SC2. I really hope the team stays together. If they need to merge with another team, that's fine. But please don't split up!


If the team is being ran off of MKP and Creator's winnings that's completely unfair to them and the team should just disband. They earned that money and it should be theirs to spend or save, not used to save their team.


If this is true it's pretty messed up. Other teams would happily pay them salary to have them. Someone need to give these players some financial education
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