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MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
December 23 2012 06:02 GMT
#7181
MKP is too stubborn with his 3cc builds, I'm telling you, if he just copied a build from Polt or Gumiho he would be do so much better.
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
December 23 2012 06:32 GMT
#7182
On December 23 2012 14:42 opterown wrote:
if half the kespa players have better mechanics than him, that means that MKP would have to have bad mechanics haha. i honestly believe that apart from flash and bomber, noone is quite as good as mkp at macroing

No that just means that mechanics are just 50% of the game, wich is also the reason why WC3 players were able to adapt aswell if not even better than BW players, even known BW players had way superiorer mechanics. And I think that the most Kespa Terrans can easy keep up with his mechanics, probably not with this micro, but the macro and multitasking for sure and everyone who played BW and followed the BWscene a bit will agree with this.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
WhiteSatin
Profile Joined December 2012
United States308 Posts
December 23 2012 07:52 GMT
#7183
Kespa terrans do not have yet either micro/macro of MKP so I disagree that they can keep up with his mechanics.
Anyway, as I stated once, I wish there were b.net profiles linked to each post so I could know who's stating what.
I.e. someone in Diamond thinks MKP has bad mechanics - then I would not even reply or try to argue about it.
Not implying you are, but it would be so much better.
And fty I am 950 points in masters on NA with T, sure far from pro but def no bronze around here.
Fangirl of MKP? Maybe
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
December 23 2012 08:05 GMT
#7184
On December 23 2012 16:52 WhiteSatin wrote:
Kespa terrans do not have yet either micro/macro of MKP so I disagree that they can keep up with his mechanics.
Anyway, as I stated once, I wish there were b.net profiles linked to each post so I could know who's stating what.
I.e. someone in Diamond thinks MKP has bad mechanics - then I would not even reply or try to argue about it.
Not implying you are, but it would be so much better.
And fty I am 950 points in masters on NA with T, sure far from pro but def no bronze around here.
Fangirl of MKP? Maybe

Well i'm 1400 points master on EU and had max 1700 on NA with T. I doubt this does matter and i also think that you don't know much about BW, since you seem new to the scene. I think MKP has great mechanics, but there are several players wich have better mechanics, but lag at other aspects. In the end i don't wanna discuss this, cause MKP is an awesome player no matter whether mechanics, strats or simply his proclivity to make crazy decisions.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 23 2012 09:08 GMT
#7185
it doesn't matter much about bw mechanics, hyped as they may be - i'm not impressed by what i've seen haha except for flash
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TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
December 23 2012 09:20 GMT
#7186
well no kespa players execpt a few is up at marinekings macro and understanding of the game.
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13004 Posts
December 23 2012 10:52 GMT
#7187
On December 23 2012 14:12 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 13:48 WhiteSatin wrote:
I don't wanna sound like a douche but it's so obvious his mechanics are top5 that if you think otherwise you have a pretty bad understanding of SC2. As opterwon said, there's very few people who can keep up with his macro, perfect upgrade timings, perfect splits and micro on a good day.
I was 99% sure that you did not needed to be a high master player to realize that but I guess that is not the case as it seems.
Even between pros, he is regarded as one of the most gifted so I am not sure how people can think otherwise.
Anyway, I love him

Tbh you sound like a bronze fangirl and no progamer ever said MKP is known for being very gifted or having the best mechanics. Half of the kespa players have better mechanics than him, wich is not suprising if you see how hard they practice.
MKP is my favorite player by far, but i'm no little fangirl who thinks MKP is the best player, cause he is not. Last GSL the players said MKP would be one of the easier opponents in the GSL.

Then you have no idea what mechanics are lol.
I saw MKP launching his 3-3 upgrades at the right timing despite being in a battle with the sound of dying units and stuff, he always profuces in time despite no tapping which is far more impressive than people who macro well with 50% redundancy APMbecause that means he doesn't queue up despite looking at his production tabs a lot less.

I won't talk about his control because many people have commented on it, his storm splits vs PartinG with his marines oriented comps are ridiculous and almost only TaeJa has displayed such control but not for a long period of time (his last series are painful to watch what happened to you TaeJa?).

The fact alone that you want to compare mechanics between players of different races is...
WriterMaru
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 12:12:20
December 23 2012 12:10 GMT
#7188
On December 23 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:
it doesn't matter much about bw mechanics, hyped as they may be - i'm not impressed by what i've seen haha except for flash

Don't you remember Fantasy when he played against RorO? SICK mechanics, never floating any minerals at all.

I don't quite get why people say KeSPA players mechancis are better, they may practice a bit more, but I'm pretty sure that MKP doesn't just sleep all day, and while playing 14 hours a day can give you good mechanics, the same can be said for 6-8 hours a day.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#7189
on the topic of practice, mkp's practice schedule is pretty strange haha

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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13004 Posts
December 23 2012 13:49 GMT
#7190
On December 23 2012 21:19 opterown wrote:
on the topic of practice, mkp's practice schedule is pretty strange haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVg5bBNmco

Any explanation of what you mean for those who don't have the time / desire to go through 17 mins of interview?
WriterMaru
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 23 2012 13:58 GMT
#7191
On December 23 2012 22:49 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 21:19 opterown wrote:
on the topic of practice, mkp's practice schedule is pretty strange haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVg5bBNmco

Any explanation of what you mean for those who don't have the time / desire to go through 17 mins of interview?

it's not a bad interview if you have the time, talks a lot about the prime house

but pretty much the first few days when pig came over, he thought mkp was lazy because he'd wake up at 4-5pm each day, and chill for a bit then practice. what pig later found out was that mkp actually ladders alllll into the night, and sleeps at like 10-11am lol. that's generally the way that he and prime practices. about a week before important matches, prime starts studying vods like crazy. there's an inhouse tournament every week or so, but otherwise not much in-team practice.

that's from memory, hope it's right. it's an interesting listen anyhow
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13004 Posts
December 23 2012 14:03 GMT
#7192
On December 23 2012 22:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 22:49 Poopi wrote:
On December 23 2012 21:19 opterown wrote:
on the topic of practice, mkp's practice schedule is pretty strange haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVg5bBNmco

Any explanation of what you mean for those who don't have the time / desire to go through 17 mins of interview?

it's not a bad interview if you have the time, talks a lot about the prime house

but pretty much the first few days when pig came over, he thought mkp was lazy because he'd wake up at 4-5pm each day, and chill for a bit then practice. what pig later found out was that mkp actually ladders alllll into the night, and sleeps at like 10-11am lol. that's generally the way that he and prime practices. about a week before important matches, prime starts studying vods like crazy. there's an inhouse tournament every week or so, but otherwise not much in-team practice.

that's from memory, hope it's right. it's an interesting listen anyhow

I wonder how he is able to play at decent level with so few sleep hours lol.
I will watch it when I have the time, didn't even know he was in the prime house ><.
WriterMaru
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 24 2012 00:19 GMT
#7193
hmmm, MKP vs. HerO in ISQ. MKP has traditionally beaten HerO but this may be a tough one
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
December 24 2012 00:27 GMT
#7194
omg that is a sick schedule...
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 24 2012 01:00 GMT
#7195
On December 24 2012 09:19 opterown wrote:
hmmm, MKP vs. HerO in ISQ. MKP has traditionally beaten HerO but this may be a tough one

I think it will depend on how serious he takes it. His first round tvp vs brown was rather uninspiring
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 24 2012 02:06 GMT
#7196
On December 24 2012 10:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:19 opterown wrote:
hmmm, MKP vs. HerO in ISQ. MKP has traditionally beaten HerO but this may be a tough one

I think it will depend on how serious he takes it. His first round tvp vs brown was rather uninspiring

As long as he doesn't try and mech again I'll be happy, HerO is probably the easiest opponent he could have gotten.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 24 2012 02:21 GMT
#7197
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 24 2012 02:40 GMT
#7198
On December 24 2012 11:21 monkybone wrote:
Stephano too strong....

MKP could have easily made it past anyone but Stephano, and maybe symbol.

Funny how he completely rolled Stephano the one game where he did something different. I think his main weakness right now is being too predictable.

He "rolled" Stephano because of the big lead he got after the early game, the casters may have said it was even or ahead for Stephano, but the worker count was even when MKP got his 2nd CC up.

Stephano was in the position every terran is at the start of a game, when the worker count is even at 6, do I all in, go tech greed, eco greed or both forms of greed?

Stephano chose the wrong type of greed and just got even more crippled by the follow up attack from MKP, after that it was just a rallying of units untill Stephano died.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
December 24 2012 02:54 GMT
#7199
On December 23 2012 06:06 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 06:05 MangoSnap wrote:
Hmm, a bit disappointed in the result, but glad to see he's just getting hammered now Strange, I figured he was just hiding builds against ret and xlord, but he just used the same 1 rax FE into mech, and then the CC first into 3CC's. I would have liked to see that build he used against Goswser in their first match set 2. It was very Polt-inspired and just abused the crap out of greedy Zergs.

There is no such things as hiding builds anymore. Especially not for terrans lol.
Every variety we had got shut down by blizzard.



True, Timings are also pretty much Dead for TvZ so what's to hide
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
December 24 2012 03:29 GMT
#7200
How the fuck are you guys measuring how good somebody's mechanics are?
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