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On April 12 2012 00:56 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 22:52 noddy wrote:On April 11 2012 21:43 Nuithari wrote:
I think I missed something. Did he say something during gal today? I didn't see it either but I guess so - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328149¤tpage=33#657Not that it's too surprising. Artosis shouldn't be taken serious any more at this point in time. His bias for certain players that are terrible and bias against a player who is at least top 3 in the world at the moment is pathetic. I think I should be more clear, it's not really that Artosis openly "hated" MarineKing, but he said random things such as : "Polt is playing TvP better than MarineKing" (I don't remember exactly), "I totally prefer seeing Polt playing TvP than MarineKing" (in the marauder-hellion game vs PartinG), and he is saying such things for a long time now. Maybe it's because he is friend with IdrA and IdrA is the guy who said that MarineKing was the most overrated korean (LOL), I don't think that it has to do with MarineKing's playstyle because MKP has shown about every terran playstyle (mech tvt vs aLive in the GSL, timing pushes TvT or macro-games, his multiple styles & builds against DRG in the two latest MLG, and his various 1rax FE to fast 3rd CC TvP along with weird 2base contain with tanks and upgraded bio in the MLG too...). So since it can't be playstyle anymore (I agree that if it was like seven/eight months ago it could have been playstyle but MarineKing was kind of lost because of mecha, and his TvP builds were weird at that time) I just don't know.
Yup, just watched the vods of todays games and I wanted to puke a bit, I do really enjoy Artosis casting, he's great. But yeah, saying that Polt has better TvP then Marineking, when Marineking got like 75-80% win-rate vs P is just laughable, he has a record of like 7-1 or 7-2 against Parting that Artosis praises for having the best PvT in the world.
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On April 12 2012 02:32 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 00:56 Poopi wrote:On April 11 2012 22:52 noddy wrote:On April 11 2012 21:43 Nuithari wrote:
I think I missed something. Did he say something during gal today? I didn't see it either but I guess so - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328149¤tpage=33#657Not that it's too surprising. Artosis shouldn't be taken serious any more at this point in time. His bias for certain players that are terrible and bias against a player who is at least top 3 in the world at the moment is pathetic. I think I should be more clear, it's not really that Artosis openly "hated" MarineKing, but he said random things such as : "Polt is playing TvP better than MarineKing" (I don't remember exactly), "I totally prefer seeing Polt playing TvP than MarineKing" (in the marauder-hellion game vs PartinG), and he is saying such things for a long time now. Maybe it's because he is friend with IdrA and IdrA is the guy who said that MarineKing was the most overrated korean (LOL), I don't think that it has to do with MarineKing's playstyle because MKP has shown about every terran playstyle (mech tvt vs aLive in the GSL, timing pushes TvT or macro-games, his multiple styles & builds against DRG in the two latest MLG, and his various 1rax FE to fast 3rd CC TvP along with weird 2base contain with tanks and upgraded bio in the MLG too...). So since it can't be playstyle anymore (I agree that if it was like seven/eight months ago it could have been playstyle but MarineKing was kind of lost because of mecha, and his TvP builds were weird at that time) I just don't know. Yup, just watched the vods of todays games and I wanted to puke a bit, I do really enjoy Artosis casting, he's great. But yeah, saying that Polt has better TvP then Marineking, when Marineking got like 75-80% win-rate vs P is just laughable, he has a record of like 7-1 or 7-2 against Parting that Artosis praises for having the best PvT in the world.
Oh ok... it's not that bad then (Artosis' comment I mean)
The thing is, Artosis always hypes up a player (Clyde and Alicia come to mind) and pushes other down. Their fanboyism for Nestea is ridiculous as well sometimes.
But meh... I still take Tastosis above any other caster duo. I got used to the bias I guess 
For the record, Polt does have a great TvP, but MKP surpasses him atm.
EDIT: I just saw the pregame show today. In his interview, PartinG says he's actually fine with everything, but it's MKP that won't talk to him because he feels sorry ^^* I kinda expected this
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On April 12 2012 03:16 Nuithari wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 02:32 Thinasy wrote:On April 12 2012 00:56 Poopi wrote:On April 11 2012 22:52 noddy wrote:On April 11 2012 21:43 Nuithari wrote:
I think I missed something. Did he say something during gal today? I didn't see it either but I guess so - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328149¤tpage=33#657Not that it's too surprising. Artosis shouldn't be taken serious any more at this point in time. His bias for certain players that are terrible and bias against a player who is at least top 3 in the world at the moment is pathetic. I think I should be more clear, it's not really that Artosis openly "hated" MarineKing, but he said random things such as : "Polt is playing TvP better than MarineKing" (I don't remember exactly), "I totally prefer seeing Polt playing TvP than MarineKing" (in the marauder-hellion game vs PartinG), and he is saying such things for a long time now. Maybe it's because he is friend with IdrA and IdrA is the guy who said that MarineKing was the most overrated korean (LOL), I don't think that it has to do with MarineKing's playstyle because MKP has shown about every terran playstyle (mech tvt vs aLive in the GSL, timing pushes TvT or macro-games, his multiple styles & builds against DRG in the two latest MLG, and his various 1rax FE to fast 3rd CC TvP along with weird 2base contain with tanks and upgraded bio in the MLG too...). So since it can't be playstyle anymore (I agree that if it was like seven/eight months ago it could have been playstyle but MarineKing was kind of lost because of mecha, and his TvP builds were weird at that time) I just don't know. Yup, just watched the vods of todays games and I wanted to puke a bit, I do really enjoy Artosis casting, he's great. But yeah, saying that Polt has better TvP then Marineking, when Marineking got like 75-80% win-rate vs P is just laughable, he has a record of like 7-1 or 7-2 against Parting that Artosis praises for having the best PvT in the world. Oh ok... it's not that bad then (Artosis' comment I mean) The thing is, Artosis always hypes up a player (Clyde and Alicia come to mind) and pushes other down. Their fanboyism for Nestea is ridiculous as well sometimes. But meh... I still take Tastosis above any other caster duo. I got used to the bias I guess For the record, Polt does have a great TvP, but MKP surpasses him atm. EDIT: I just saw the pregame show today. In his interview, PartinG says he's actually fine with everything, but it's MKP that won't talk to him because he feels sorry ^^* I kinda expected this
So true, I've been watching GSL since season 1 so yeah, I know the drill aswell^^ I take em just due to the fact that they actually know something about the same and you are absolutely right, Polt does have really good TvP, but better no.
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On April 12 2012 03:16 Nuithari wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 02:32 Thinasy wrote:On April 12 2012 00:56 Poopi wrote:On April 11 2012 22:52 noddy wrote:On April 11 2012 21:43 Nuithari wrote:
I think I missed something. Did he say something during gal today? I didn't see it either but I guess so - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328149¤tpage=33#657Not that it's too surprising. Artosis shouldn't be taken serious any more at this point in time. His bias for certain players that are terrible and bias against a player who is at least top 3 in the world at the moment is pathetic. I think I should be more clear, it's not really that Artosis openly "hated" MarineKing, but he said random things such as : "Polt is playing TvP better than MarineKing" (I don't remember exactly), "I totally prefer seeing Polt playing TvP than MarineKing" (in the marauder-hellion game vs PartinG), and he is saying such things for a long time now. Maybe it's because he is friend with IdrA and IdrA is the guy who said that MarineKing was the most overrated korean (LOL), I don't think that it has to do with MarineKing's playstyle because MKP has shown about every terran playstyle (mech tvt vs aLive in the GSL, timing pushes TvT or macro-games, his multiple styles & builds against DRG in the two latest MLG, and his various 1rax FE to fast 3rd CC TvP along with weird 2base contain with tanks and upgraded bio in the MLG too...). So since it can't be playstyle anymore (I agree that if it was like seven/eight months ago it could have been playstyle but MarineKing was kind of lost because of mecha, and his TvP builds were weird at that time) I just don't know. Yup, just watched the vods of todays games and I wanted to puke a bit, I do really enjoy Artosis casting, he's great. But yeah, saying that Polt has better TvP then Marineking, when Marineking got like 75-80% win-rate vs P is just laughable, he has a record of like 7-1 or 7-2 against Parting that Artosis praises for having the best PvT in the world. Oh ok... it's not that bad then (Artosis' comment I mean) The thing is, Artosis always hypes up a player (Clyde and Alicia come to mind) and pushes other down. Their fanboyism for Nestea is ridiculous as well sometimes. But meh... I still take Tastosis above any other caster duo. I got used to the bias I guess For the record, Polt does have a great TvP, but MKP surpasses him atm. EDIT: I just saw the pregame show today. In his interview, PartinG says he's actually fine with everything, but it's MKP that won't talk to him because he feels sorry ^^* I kinda expected this
You do realize that after Clide and Alicia failed to live up the their expectations that when they continue to say Clide is the best player in the world it's actually trolling. It's so obvious their trolling from the way they say it. Heck they even make fun of people who don't catch the jokes.
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I just realised... WTF!!! I'M NOT IN THE FANCLUB!!!
Sign me up!
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On April 12 2012 15:05 Azzur wrote:
I just realised... WTF!!! I'M NOT IN THE FANCLUB!!!
Sign me up!
Me as well! SIGN ME UP! MarineKing is such a boss.
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On April 13 2012 07:22 NexCa wrote:
Happy Birthday MKP !!!
What? He was born in July.
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ljh711 => Lee Jung Hoon 11 July
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@Liquidpedia Birthday: July 11, 1993
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bah, turned in too late 
gotta go anyways, will catch the vods later I guess
Go Go PRIME!!
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328958
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His Code S group is kinda hard, nog groupB hard, but tough still : PartinG, Taeja and TheSTC. A perfect moment to practice TvT I guess. Also, if him and PartinG advance, they could meet again for the finals, which would be awesome!
Also, check MKP out tonight in Iron Squid and the MLG Title fight tonight!
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Sign me up!
MKP is AmaZinG!
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MKP is awesome! Sign me up! =)
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Poor performance in Iron Squid, so disappointed and sad atm. He got figured out once again, got punished for being too aggresive with the bunkers + too greedy. Oh well, Symbol played good and gogo Ro16 instead, GSL is the thing he must win, nothing else matters for me now!
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I wouldn't say figured out. It's just his lack of scouting that got abused. Guess I won't go to Paris ^^*
Bah, go go Ro16 indeed!
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People always so quick to say he gets figured out. The games were played on the day he returned from IPL4.. he was obviously not in his best condition. That is not an excuse for how he played though as he made some very big mistakes.
I really hope in the future he'll learn to scout more. It's great that he knows what the opponent is doing based on unit count and whatever but that doesn't help in the early game when nothing is revealed.
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I'm happy that Symbol won, not just for his sake, but this means MKP gets to be fully prepared and rested for I believe Ro8, if he did go to Paris, it would mean he was gonna be jet lagged with lack of preperation.
I'd love for him to win everything, but if he can just get this GSL i'm gonna be so happy 
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Best Terran in the world. Easily. Have you seen his TvP micro? Blows my mind every time.
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EPT
