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On October 28 2011 06:15 Caesarion wrote:YuGiOh would not be as easy as you might be thinking. In his last 5 vP's, he's beaten HerO, JYP, HongUn and Oz. I think he's got a pretty good chance of beating MMA and Ryung. They don't have remarkable TvP's and MC's PvT is looking strong. If he advances, he might meet NesTea(!), Losira, sC or asd.
YuGiOh's vP does look pretty damn good. However, bear in mind that MC has a VERY different style to JYP/Hero.
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On October 28 2011 06:15 Caesarion wrote:YuGiOh would not be as easy as you might be thinking. In his last 5 vP's, he's beaten HerO, JYP, HongUn and Oz. I think he's got a pretty good chance of beating MMA and Ryung. They don't have remarkable TvP's and MC's PvT is looking strong. If he advances, he might meet NesTea(!), Losira, sC or asd.
Actully a decent group for him. These days his PvT seems to be his best current matchup, and his PvZ is rather bad, so only getting 1 zerg is his best chances. Hope he advances though tho!
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On October 28 2011 06:49 ragnorr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 06:15 Caesarion wrote:YuGiOh would not be as easy as you might be thinking. In his last 5 vP's, he's beaten HerO, JYP, HongUn and Oz. I think he's got a pretty good chance of beating MMA and Ryung. They don't have remarkable TvP's and MC's PvT is looking strong. If he advances, he might meet NesTea(!), Losira, sC or asd. Actully a decent group for him. These days his PvT seems to be his best current matchup, and his PvZ is rather bad, so only getting 1 zerg is his best chances. Hope he advances though tho!
Why do you think his pvz is bad? He 2-0 2 times ret, beat idra,... the only zerg I can remember against who MC lost was july, and it was because first game he fucked up (that happens sometimes, just hope it isn't in a tournament) and dual sight is a really hard map for pvz, and he almost won dual sight game.
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well he got knocked down to Code A due to Zergs in his Up and Down matches. Beating forigen zergs isn't that big of a deal tbh. He's also stated he finds it really difficult.
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On October 28 2011 09:08 dooraven wrote:
well he got knocked down to Code A due to Zergs in his Up and Down matches. Beating forigen zergs isn't that big of a deal tbh. He's also stated he finds it really difficult. Do note that the game that got him knocked out of GSL was one of the most heavily favoured zerg maps in the GSL pool for ZvP (Dual Sight). There was no way for him to play his style and no way to safely take a third, he lost more to the map than the player. They revamped it for this season and closed some of the chokes up for a reason.
Also, don't underestimate Yugioh. He can be insanely good or mediocre, it seems to depend on the day. I watched his stream to help learn Zerg and he is a monster in the late game. His early game isn't as strong but his lategame is crazy and he isn't afraid to basetrade if he thinks he can win, especially once he gets broodlords. He also actually can use infestors effectively, which is rare to see from Korean Zergs in the GSL, who seem to lose whenever they do infestor based strategies. I wouldn't count him out for anything.
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Mc's group is a group of death, noone is out yet.
But there are a lot of map changes for the new gsl season and they are all good for toss so that is good.
I am just wondering how they are going to be grouped in Ro16 in the new format.
For example, if Mc advances to ro16 and get a group of nestea, losira, mc and MMA, then it will be hard for him.
Anyways, MC fighting.
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On October 28 2011 09:24 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 09:08 dooraven wrote:
well he got knocked down to Code A due to Zergs in his Up and Down matches. Beating forigen zergs isn't that big of a deal tbh. He's also stated he finds it really difficult. Do note that the game that got him knocked out of GSL was one of the most heavily favoured zerg maps in the GSL pool for ZvP (Dual Sight). There was no way for him to play his style and no way to safely take a third, he lost more to the map than the player. They revamped it for this season and closed some of the chokes up for a reason. Also, don't underestimate Yugioh. He can be insanely good or mediocre, it seems to depend on the day. I watched his stream to help learn Zerg and he is a monster in the late game. His early game isn't as strong but his lategame is crazy and he isn't afraid to basetrade if he thinks he can win, especially once he gets broodlords. He also actually can use infestors effectively, which is rare to see from Korean Zergs in the GSL, who seem to lose whenever they do infestor based strategies. I wouldn't count him out for anything.
I love MC, but he was knocked out in a Bo3 by a first-time-in-Code-A Zerg player in Ro32 Code A. Also, PvZ is a tough matchup atm. I wish him the best, I certainly think he can take out Ryung, it's just MMA that has me worried...
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Now that Dual Sight is way better for P, I foresee MC crushing pretty much every Zerg in his path. Seriously, pretty much every single time he loses to a Zerg in GSL he plays on Dual Sight...
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On October 28 2011 12:45 Snaphoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 09:24 Ben... wrote:On October 28 2011 09:08 dooraven wrote:
well he got knocked down to Code A due to Zergs in his Up and Down matches. Beating forigen zergs isn't that big of a deal tbh. He's also stated he finds it really difficult. Do note that the game that got him knocked out of GSL was one of the most heavily favoured zerg maps in the GSL pool for ZvP (Dual Sight). There was no way for him to play his style and no way to safely take a third, he lost more to the map than the player. They revamped it for this season and closed some of the chokes up for a reason. Also, don't underestimate Yugioh. He can be insanely good or mediocre, it seems to depend on the day. I watched his stream to help learn Zerg and he is a monster in the late game. His early game isn't as strong but his lategame is crazy and he isn't afraid to basetrade if he thinks he can win, especially once he gets broodlords. He also actually can use infestors effectively, which is rare to see from Korean Zergs in the GSL, who seem to lose whenever they do infestor based strategies. I wouldn't count him out for anything. I love MC, but he was knocked out in a Bo3 by a first-time-in-Code-A Zerg player in Ro32 Code A. Also, PvZ is a tough matchup atm. I wish him the best, I certainly think he can take out Ryung, it's just MMA that has me worried...
He demolished Monster the only game he was able to get a third. He lost to a ling runby because his probes got shoved out of the way of the block at the last second, and in the third game he lost because it was Dual Sight, his opponent went two base infestor which beats pretty much all protoss two base, and from there kept MC contained with a muta switch while taking his third and fourth and never giving MC the chance. Any pro zerg that can't beat a protoss on Dual Sight isn't a pro zerg. That series had nothing to do with anything tbh. even though he hasn't looked too good lately versus Korean zergs because he does weird stuff. I guess standard play got figured out or something.
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Mc the only toss still in WCG
Once again, toss will need to rely on you !!
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Come on MC - last P in WCG. You can do it! Beat MVP/miniMVP/that other Slayers Terran!
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MC, please crush those evil terrans.
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Hope MC rapes his group in both WCG and GSL!
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Interested to see if there will be a "real" game between MC and MVP, or if one of them will win from a timing attack. It's on Metal so no bunker contain or anything like last time they met.
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On October 30 2011 10:53 Heavenly wrote:
Interested to see if there will be a "real" game between MC and MVP, or if one of them will win from a timing attack. It's on Metal so no bunker contain or anything like last time they met.
Mc's style is gate way timings, especially against terran new. It used to be zerg only, but now it's terran so expect to see some tonight T_T
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Hell yes, MC's matches are coming up soon
Hope he crushes his group :D
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On October 30 2011 11:47 Applesqt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 10:53 Heavenly wrote:
Interested to see if there will be a "real" game between MC and MVP, or if one of them will win from a timing attack. It's on Metal so no bunker contain or anything like last time they met. Mc's style is gate way timings, especially against terran new. It used to be zerg only, but now it's terran so expect to see some tonight T_T
He's been including immortals into his 6-7 gate now. I think he'll definitely do that build at least once.
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Wellll, he just beat the "best" player in the world. Did someone say slump?
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