On July 06 2011 22:30 tomatriedes wrote: How is it possible to defend that raven/banshee/marine/scv all-in? MC knew it was coming and made all the right units and still got completely rolled. What else could he have done?
having his observer back at home, getting on 6 gates quicker or teching to collosus asap im surprised his lost tbh, everyone knew it was coming, bomber even said himself he hates that map and just wants games on it over asap. Being one of the best in the world, mc should have just crushed him Watching incas 4 gate fail to do anything, i knew MC had won from there so i stopped watching :D
got MC vs HuK next round yea? thats gonna be awesome
Can't two banshees take down a colossus too quickly though? I'm glad he got through anyway I'm just curious what the best way is to stop it.
I'm curious too, since you desperatly need robotics because of the observer. But I think if you can prepare in time perhaps you can get like twilight or forge and go for lots of zealots with charge and/or blink.
Robotics and twilight with teching chargelots or stalkers with +1 armor and 6 gates. Perhaps to much to ask for?
On July 06 2011 22:30 tomatriedes wrote: How is it possible to defend that raven/banshee/marine/scv all-in? MC knew it was coming and made all the right units and still got completely rolled. What else could he have done?
having his observer back at home, getting on 6 gates quicker or teching to collosus asap im surprised his lost tbh, everyone knew it was coming, bomber even said himself he hates that map and just wants games on it over asap. Being one of the best in the world, mc should have just crushed him Watching incas 4 gate fail to do anything, i knew MC had won from there so i stopped watching :D
got MC vs HuK next round yea? thats gonna be awesome
Can't two banshees take down a colossus too quickly though? I'm glad he got through anyway I'm just curious what the best way is to stop it.
I'm curious too, since you desperatly need robotics because of the observer. But I think if you can prepare in time perhaps you can get like twilight or forge and go for lots of zealots with charge and/or blink.
Robotics and twilight with teching chargelots or stalkers with +1 armor and 6 gates. Perhaps to much to ask for?
Iirc, if you can get them out, a few phoenixes (with micro) work wonders against that push.
Was Inca losing intentionally in their match? I ask because iI noticed that Inca was floating somewhere around 600 minerals near the 8 minute mark and I have never seen even my gold league friends allow that to happen. Is there some reason Inca was floating so many resources?
On July 07 2011 11:32 Sina92 wrote: gz on ur win today, sorry to see you get cheesed by bomber in g1.
won't call that a cheese. It is just Bomber outwitting MC with all-in instead of his usual macro play. But congrats to MC for advancing. The repeat of homestory cup will be good.
MC: I was confident in my match against Bomber today, but I am disappointed that I lost to those cloaked banshees. Bomber likes to play for later macro games so I didn’t predict that he would open like that. I even had robo up,
Bomber: I face MC often on the ladder, but I have not shown him this build that I used today. I think he reacts distinctly to the 2 barracks so I faked him out. And he did exactly what I predicted.
On July 07 2011 11:32 Sina92 wrote: gz on ur win today, sorry to see you get cheesed by bomber in g1.
won't call that a cheese. It is just Bomber outwitting MC with all-in instead of his usual macro play. But congrats to MC for advancing. The repeat of homestory cup will be good.
MC: I was confident in my match against Bomber today, but I am disappointed that I lost to those cloaked banshees. Bomber likes to play for later macro games so I didn’t predict that he would open like that. I even had robo up,
Bomber: I face MC often on the ladder, but I have not shown him this build that I used today. I think he reacts distinctly to the 2 barracks so I faked him out. And he did exactly what I predicted.
Whether or not it was calculated or not it's still cheese, but yeah good move by bomber.
On July 07 2011 04:22 Kluey wrote: oGsMC isn't coming to MLG. Apparently he wants to win this GSL but it's too bad he doesn't know that HuK will win.
Sorry but you're delusional if you think huk can beat nestea when he was losing to zergs like stephano, who MC promptly 2-0'ed btw.
Sorry, but you're delusional if you think Huk can't do this when he was beating zergs like IdrA, while also having a strong record in other matchups by beating Tosses like MC and Naniwa, along with Terrans like MMA.
On July 07 2011 04:22 Kluey wrote: oGsMC isn't coming to MLG. Apparently he wants to win this GSL but it's too bad he doesn't know that HuK will win.
Sorry but you're delusional if you think huk can beat nestea when he was losing to zergs like stephano, who MC promptly 2-0'ed btw.
Sorry, but you're delusional if you think Huk can't do this when he was beating zergs like IdrA, while also having a strong record in other matchups by beating Tosses like MC and Naniwa, along with Terrans like MMA.
-implies beating idra means you have a shot against nestea -proceeds to link a random game from from 5 months ago. Huk is good and hes doing great but I seriously doubt his PvZ can compete with nestea, perhaps we'll see though.
On July 07 2011 03:54 meadbert wrote: Was Inca losing intentionally in their match? I ask because iI noticed that Inca was floating somewhere around 600 minerals near the 8 minute mark and I have never seen even my gold league friends allow that to happen. Is there some reason Inca was floating so many resources?
I'd have to go back and watch the game but I've seen professional casters (well the NASL casters anyway) make the mistake of calling out somones macro only to have them warp in a round of zealots or stalkers. Usually all your gateways are on cooldown at the same time so you will build up to 400/500 minerals before a warpin.
On July 07 2011 04:22 Kluey wrote: oGsMC isn't coming to MLG. Apparently he wants to win this GSL but it's too bad he doesn't know that HuK will win.
Sorry but you're delusional if you think huk can beat nestea when he was losing to zergs like stephano, who MC promptly 2-0'ed btw.
Sorry, but you're delusional if you think Huk can't do this when he was beating zergs like IdrA, while also having a strong record in other matchups by beating Tosses like MC and Naniwa, along with Terrans like MMA.
Is that a ladder game? Because ladder games actually don't really mean that much. Furthermore, as someone pointed out earlier, that game is pretty old. Not a good argument at all. Beating IdrA and beating Nestea are completely different things, while being good at non-vZ matchups doesn't really mean much.
why are you guys having such a stupid argument -.- anyone can beat anyone in GSL huk can beat anyone in the world while both nestea and mc can do so too, the only different between them is the percentage.
i dont know how old are u guys zzz but just drop it.Im a fan of MC but hes not unbeatable eventho sometimes im heavily biased towards him
On July 07 2011 04:22 Kluey wrote: oGsMC isn't coming to MLG. Apparently he wants to win this GSL but it's too bad he doesn't know that HuK will win.
Sorry but you're delusional if you think huk can beat nestea when he was losing to zergs like stephano, who MC promptly 2-0'ed btw.
Sorry, but you're delusional if you think Huk can't do this when he was beating zergs like IdrA, while also having a strong record in other matchups by beating Tosses like MC and Naniwa, along with Terrans like MMA.
Is that a ladder game? Because ladder games actually don't really mean that much. Furthermore, as someone pointed out earlier, that game is pretty old. Not a good argument at all. Beating IdrA and beating Nestea are completely different things, while being good at non-vZ matchups doesn't really mean much.
"Beating IdrA and beating Nestea are completely different things"
I agree. Beating Nestea and beating Stephano are also completely different things, that's the point of parallelism in the statement, it's fallacious to logic to make that comparison when each game is it's own individual circumstance. Cite TLPD records, cite overall matchups, I don't care, but citing one series is stupid (in the post I was responding to).
"while being good at non-vZ matchups doesn't really mean much" It is certainly significant when you actually understand the context of my post. "Apparently he[MC] wants to win this GSL but it's too bad he doesn't know that HuK will win." - not solely about Nestea, bud.
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