EPTOn March 20 2013 09:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
They are talking about IdrA and Korea right now on ITG
They are talking about IdrA and Korea right now on ITG
hes giving alot of good reasons for not going
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Forikorder
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hes giving alot of good reasons for not going | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On March 20 2013 09:11 Forikorder wrote: hes giving alot of good reasons for not going It was pretty much a mix of everything people were speculating | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Regardless, there were foreigners there years before him. | ||
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Lefaa
Finland313 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 20 2013 09:16 GolemMadness wrote: Regardless, there were foreigners there years before him. definently just trying to clear up any possible misinformation which may be happening | ||
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jnsjr
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Psychobabas
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On March 20 2013 07:06 Lefaa wrote: yes if someone payed me over 100k/year for playing it. Having huge group of ppl hoping me to succeed and spent half of my life to get good at it. Your girl is so lucky. x] | ||
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ZzKaelzZ
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 I guess he knows what's best. After all maybe it's for the best | ||
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Juggernaut477
United States379 Posts
On March 20 2013 09:09 Shellshock1122 wrote: They are talking about IdrA and Korea right now on ITG edit: so it was pretty much everything people were expecting He basically said he didnt want to have to reduce his streaming hours to 2 per day like the new coach requires because it would cut into his income. Also he brought up the Stephano interview where Stephano talked about the situation in the house not being in the house and IdrA said that being in a pro house isn't always the best environment for him, especially if it is as bad as stephano said. He also said that learning to play against Koreans won't be the best prep for foreign tournaments for him so he wants to stay practicing in the US to be able to prepare for foreigners better. So it was kind of a mix of everything and says he won't be going any time soon. So he's basically giving up. Laddering on NA will prepare him for some more top 30 or 40 finishes at foreign tournaments. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 20 2013 13:03 Juggernaut477 wrote: So he's basically giving up. Laddering on NA will prepare him for some more top 30 or 40 finishes at foreign tournaments. he said that due to the shitty condition of there house in korea and how new HoTS is he wouldnt get better practice and it would take a long time in Korea for the better practice to really show he thinks its better to hang out with Foreigners who are better at designing new strats then the Koreans who arent | ||
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Meslimbor
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On March 20 2013 13:03 Juggernaut477 wrote: So he's basically giving up. Laddering on NA will prepare him for some more top 30 or 40 finishes at foreign tournaments. As much as I want him to go, the last couple of times he went to Korea, he came back worse off than when he was practicing in the Lair. That long slump he had in 2012 was from after he came back but he got out of the group of death with Stephano, Roro, HerO after being in the US for half a year. He would not give up so easily | ||
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Eschaton
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Forikorder
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On March 20 2013 13:38 Eschaton wrote: Man, it's a little sad to have watched his goal change from "Be the best StarCraft player ever" to "Make the most money I can regardless of how good I am at StarCraft." I understand that priorities change, and I respect that, but pro-gaming is such an all or nothing thing and at one point he really did seem like he had the desire and determination to do really well. I'm extremely curious what he plans to be doing in five years. he explained quite clearly he didnt think going to Korea would help him play better | ||
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Sqorpion
Denmark384 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 20 2013 13:40 Forikorder wrote: he explained quite clearly he didnt think going to Korea would help him play better Yeah also I imagine what he heard about the korean house not being very good didn't help his decision. He might change his mind in the future maybe or if the house over there goes better (IE from the sound of it more then just stephano aren't happy with how the house is going over there right now not a good environment). Maybe if that environment changes he might be willing to go back, I hope so I just want to see him play in proleague haha :p. Either way hope he does well in the next tournament he plays in  | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Surely practicing against Korean's is better than practicing against "foreigners" just purely because "foreigners" are miles behind Koreans, if you get to a level on par with the Korean's foreigners are no problem, as mechanically you will beat them. I guess streaming income would be an issue, but for a month of practice in korea it might balance out? Obviously who am i to judge what is best for you as you know what is best! But still, would be amazing to see you back in Korea and stepping onto the SPL stage | ||
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Sephmeister
United Kingdom13 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 20 2013 17:52 Sephmeister wrote: I can see Idra's point but Koreans are winning almost every tournament at the moment. They almost exclusively practice in Korea in a team house. However if that environment makes you unhappy its probably detrimental. Look at stephano since he went to Korea. he seems to think that the Korean practice environment takes a long time to take effect so for Koreans who have been experienceing it all there life it shows but for IdrA to get a benefit from it would take years in Korea | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On March 21 2013 00:15 Forikorder wrote: he seems to think that the Korean practice environment takes a long time to take effect so for Koreans who have been experienceing it all there life it shows but for IdrA to get a benefit from it would take years in Korea This is probably a very valid point - I mean how well has Fenix been doing lately? No one can argue with the fact that Koreans are dominating all tournaments with no end in sight, but I suppose you could question whether foreigners are able to reap the same benefits as native Koreans from the team house environment. Still though, it's a choice. Do the best basketball players in the EU stay in the EU, or do they play in the NBA where they can play against and learn from the best? I'm just disappointed that he seems to be settling for 2nd tier when he can handle 1st tier. It's selfish of me, but it is what it is. | ||
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Lefaa
Finland313 Posts
On March 21 2013 02:51 Eschaton wrote: This is probably a very valid point - I mean how well has Fenix been doing lately? No one can argue with the fact that Koreans are dominating all tournaments with no end in sight, but I suppose you could question whether foreigners are able to reap the same benefits as native Koreans from the team house environment. Still though, it's a choice. Do the best basketball players in the EU stay in the EU, or do they play in the NBA where they can play against and learn from the best? I'm just disappointed that he seems to be settling for 2nd tier when he can handle 1st tier. It's selfish of me, but it is what it is. Im strating to think its too risky choice to go to Korea, Like last time he came back from korea he ended up being almost worse than before going there. And there is no guarantee that this time would be any different and he would just lose half of his salary for nothing. I think the most important thing is that demuslim will stay at EG lair that idra can have good partner to train with, since ladder is not that challenging. | ||
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