• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:05
CET 02:05
KST 10:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!41$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1155 users

The IdrA Fan Club - Page 1941

Forum Index > Fan Clubs
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 2897 Next
Personal attacks in this thread will draw a temp ban.
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
March 25 2012 01:33 GMT
#38801
On March 25 2012 10:25 Forikorder wrote:
so what place did IdrA get? or is it too early to tell still?

Well, he got Top32 for sure, I think.
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
PandaMonk
Profile Joined June 2011
United States300 Posts
March 25 2012 01:40 GMT
#38802
Polt and JYP both played really well, JYP with his immaculate pvz and polt with his great builds,micro, and execution of attacks. Not bad people to lose to. Small mistakes by IdrA were heavily capitalized upon. Idra DID beat Inori, proving he can still beat koreans, and Jinro, who has recently been on the rise. Idra with a pretty good performeance (not as good as we want, but ok). GOOG IDRA NEXT TOURNAMENT!
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
March 25 2012 01:41 GMT
#38803
On March 25 2012 10:17 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:15 Aocowns wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:12 BronzeKnee wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 hysterial wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 Incognoto wrote:
Polt is so cheesy.. this is exactly what I meant. he's not playing a straight up game he's playing abusive


Shut up. Polt is probably one of the most straight up players you will ever find. How on earth can you call this current game cheesy.


So it's straight up play to go for a big Marine push and then follow it up with 2 Port Banshee? That is the definition of cheese man ("Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.") Polt even cancelled the Starports when Idra was scouting them.

ya 2 rax into 4 rax into 2 port banshee is the definition fo cheesy all-ins

it sucks but one bad Bo3 at the end isnt terrible, he still showed some amazing games and Polt isnt someone to be ashamed at losing to

What amazing games? Wasn't this the only series we saw? Well, the pay people saw Jinro, but as I gather, he played a little sloppy there as well.

I thought his play looked great vs. Jinro for what it's worth


Well Jinro isn't exactly a top player anymore. The guy is very good, but I don't think Idra should be patting himself on the back for defeating him.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
March 25 2012 01:44 GMT
#38804
Coming through the Open Bracket to get Top32 isn't that bad.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Baio
Profile Joined March 2012
112 Posts
March 25 2012 01:46 GMT
#38805
On March 25 2012 10:12 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:06 hysterial wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 Incognoto wrote:
Polt is so cheesy.. this is exactly what I meant. he's not playing a straight up game he's playing abusive


Shut up. Polt is probably one of the most straight up players you will ever find. How on earth can you call this current game cheesy.


So it's straight up play to go for a big Marine push and then follow it up with 2 Port Banshee? That is the definition of cheese man ("Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.") Polt even cancelled the Starports when Idra was scouting them.

The 2 port follow up is extremely cheesy and allin if he hasn't some incredible raven build in his mind. The problem is that not a single banshee was made that game. Idra died to a completely standard marine force without stim (not sure if shield or not). THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ON HIS SKILL LEVEL. This was such a normal pressure by korean standards. Idra has to have encountered that on the kr ladder dozens of times.

If idra wants to play the so called stephano style (actually it's ling infestor stephano didn't invent this at all) he has to defend like him. With 2 more crawlers he would have been safe against everything. He neither had them nor a baneling nest AND super late ling speed on top of that.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
March 25 2012 01:52 GMT
#38806
On March 25 2012 10:46 Baio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:12 BronzeKnee wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 hysterial wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 Incognoto wrote:
Polt is so cheesy.. this is exactly what I meant. he's not playing a straight up game he's playing abusive


Shut up. Polt is probably one of the most straight up players you will ever find. How on earth can you call this current game cheesy.


So it's straight up play to go for a big Marine push and then follow it up with 2 Port Banshee? That is the definition of cheese man ("Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.") Polt even cancelled the Starports when Idra was scouting them.

The 2 port follow up is extremely cheesy and allin if he hasn't some incredible raven build in his mind. The problem is that not a single banshee was made that game. Idra died to a completely standard marine force without stim (not sure if shield or not). THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ON HIS SKILL LEVEL. This was such a normal pressure by korean standards. Idra has to have encountered that on the kr ladder dozens of times.

If idra wants to play the so called stephano style (actually it's ling infestor stephano didn't invent this at all) he has to defend like him. With 2 more crawlers he would have been safe against everything. He neither had them nor a baneling nest AND super late ling speed on top of that.

I dunno if I missed it or what, but did IdrA even TRY to scout after he cleaned up the first pressure? Did he try more than once?
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Baio
Profile Joined March 2012
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 01:55:13
March 25 2012 01:52 GMT
#38807
Nonetheless im glad to see idrA at least slightly back on track with his new zvt and a very important mental achievement (cleanly beating the protoss who beat the arguably best zvp player in the world 30 minutes before). I'm sad he isn't in the money again though. Sc2earnings show a pretty good result for him but most of that is unfortunately kinda old and the 50.000 aren't really growing anymore. Hopefully he gets a significant win in the near future.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 25 2012 01:55 GMT
#38808
On March 25 2012 10:46 Baio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:12 BronzeKnee wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 hysterial wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 Incognoto wrote:
Polt is so cheesy.. this is exactly what I meant. he's not playing a straight up game he's playing abusive


Shut up. Polt is probably one of the most straight up players you will ever find. How on earth can you call this current game cheesy.


So it's straight up play to go for a big Marine push and then follow it up with 2 Port Banshee? That is the definition of cheese man ("Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.") Polt even cancelled the Starports when Idra was scouting them.

The 2 port follow up is extremely cheesy and allin if he hasn't some incredible raven build in his mind. The problem is that not a single banshee was made that game. Idra died to a completely standard marine force without stim (not sure if shield or not). THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ON HIS SKILL LEVEL. This was such a normal pressure by korean standards. Idra has to have encountered that on the kr ladder dozens of times.

If idra wants to play the so called stephano style (actually it's ling infestor stephano didn't invent this at all) he has to defend like him. With 2 more crawlers he would have been safe against everything. He neither had them nor a baneling nest AND super late ling speed on top of that.

i havent seen any terrans do 4 rax for a while
Baio
Profile Joined March 2012
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 02:04:06
March 25 2012 02:01 GMT
#38809
On March 25 2012 10:55 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:46 Baio wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:12 BronzeKnee wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 hysterial wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 Incognoto wrote:
Polt is so cheesy.. this is exactly what I meant. he's not playing a straight up game he's playing abusive


Shut up. Polt is probably one of the most straight up players you will ever find. How on earth can you call this current game cheesy.


So it's straight up play to go for a big Marine push and then follow it up with 2 Port Banshee? That is the definition of cheese man ("Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.") Polt even cancelled the Starports when Idra was scouting them.

The 2 port follow up is extremely cheesy and allin if he hasn't some incredible raven build in his mind. The problem is that not a single banshee was made that game. Idra died to a completely standard marine force without stim (not sure if shield or not). THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ON HIS SKILL LEVEL. This was such a normal pressure by korean standards. Idra has to have encountered that on the kr ladder dozens of times.

If idra wants to play the so called stephano style (actually it's ling infestor stephano didn't invent this at all) he has to defend like him. With 2 more crawlers he would have been safe against everything. He neither had them nor a baneling nest AND super late ling speed on top of that.

i havent seen any terrans do 4 rax for a while

I watch bomber's stream pretty consistently and he does similar builds all the time. Mostly of a 1 rax gasless expand though and often with stim. MVP's first game vs symbol on the iron squid as well.

And to be honest. Which kind of push would idra have been able to hold with one spine, no speed and no baneling nest or roach warren.

@VashTS: I'm hundred percent sure that he saw a significant amount of the marine force with the drone he had on the lower watch tower. Maybe he didn't catch the reinforcements and just expected Polt not to be aggressive with the amounts of marines he saw.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#38810
On March 25 2012 11:01 Baio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:55 Forikorder wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:46 Baio wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:12 BronzeKnee wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 hysterial wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 Incognoto wrote:
Polt is so cheesy.. this is exactly what I meant. he's not playing a straight up game he's playing abusive


Shut up. Polt is probably one of the most straight up players you will ever find. How on earth can you call this current game cheesy.


So it's straight up play to go for a big Marine push and then follow it up with 2 Port Banshee? That is the definition of cheese man ("Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent.") Polt even cancelled the Starports when Idra was scouting them.

The 2 port follow up is extremely cheesy and allin if he hasn't some incredible raven build in his mind. The problem is that not a single banshee was made that game. Idra died to a completely standard marine force without stim (not sure if shield or not). THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ON HIS SKILL LEVEL. This was such a normal pressure by korean standards. Idra has to have encountered that on the kr ladder dozens of times.

If idra wants to play the so called stephano style (actually it's ling infestor stephano didn't invent this at all) he has to defend like him. With 2 more crawlers he would have been safe against everything. He neither had them nor a baneling nest AND super late ling speed on top of that.

i havent seen any terrans do 4 rax for a while

I watch bomber's stream pretty consistently and he does similar builds all the time. Mostly of a 1 rax gasless expand though and often with stim. MVP's first game vs symbol on the iron squid as well.

And to be honest. Which kind of push would idra have been able to hold with one spine, no speed and no baneling nest or roach warren.

@VashTS: I'm hundred percent sure that he saw a significant amount of the marine force with the drone he had on the lower watch tower. Maybe he didn't catch the reinforcements and just expected Polt not to be aggressive with the amounts of marines he saw.


he saw 10 marines and a factory in the main so he probably thought he was jsut teching
c0ldwinter
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States238 Posts
March 25 2012 02:22 GMT
#38811
Good job grack! beating jinro and beating Inori who eliminated Stephano is not disappointing.
This proves that he is still a world class player
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 25 2012 02:46 GMT
#38812
Is top32 a pool seeding for the next MLG?
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
March 25 2012 02:49 GMT
#38813
On March 25 2012 11:46 Jinsho wrote:
Is top32 a pool seeding for the next MLG?


don't think so, there's a new arena before the next mlg that decides seedings for the main event. Greg has to do online qualifiers for the arena probably.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
March 25 2012 03:03 GMT
#38814
On March 25 2012 11:46 Jinsho wrote:
Is top32 a pool seeding for the next MLG?

I looked up the competition format:

Spring Qualification
1. Players finishing 1st-8th in the Winter Championship will be invited to participate in Spring Arena #1.
2. Players finishing 9th-80th in the Winter Championship will be invited to participate in the Spring Invite-Only Online Qualifier of their choice.
3. Winter Arena Players who fail to participate in the Winter Championship will be invited to participate in the Spring Invite-Only Online Qualifier of their choice.

So IdrA clearly falls under #2, that's the next step. Now, there are two arenas for Spring, before the next championship (June 8-10) and I don't think it's been announced how you get seeded into pool play for that. Performing well in the Invite-only qualifier (top 8? top 16?) will probably get you into the Spring Arena #1. A good performance there would then either seed you into Arena #2 or into pool play. We'll have to wait to know the exact details though
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
March 25 2012 03:16 GMT
#38815
Guys what is wrong with idra's face. he seems not so good (Some sort of red dots or sth) I hope it is nothing serious because i think i used to have some sort of problems like tht ;/
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
March 25 2012 03:21 GMT
#38816
On March 25 2012 12:16 Holdinga wrote:
Guys what is wrong with idra's face. he seems not so good (Some sort of red dots or sth) I hope it is nothing serious because i think i used to have some sort of problems like tht ;/


Maybe they're pimples or freckles.
KobeLobster
Profile Joined November 2010
70 Posts
March 25 2012 03:31 GMT
#38817
On March 25 2012 12:21 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 12:16 Holdinga wrote:
Guys what is wrong with idra's face. he seems not so good (Some sort of red dots or sth) I hope it is nothing serious because i think i used to have some sort of problems like tht ;/


Maybe they're pimples or freckles.


It was a gummi bear.
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
March 25 2012 03:32 GMT
#38818
On March 25 2012 11:22 Ricemarine wrote:
Good job grack! beating jinro and beating Inori who eliminated Stephano is not disappointing.
This proves that he is still a world class player


As much as I'd like to agree with you . T_T he played 4 series and lost against 2 amazing players, doesnt really prove anything.

Kinda bummed he played so little this MLG. Would've liked to see him in pool play and tear it up like last year to show that he's still a top tier player. Well at least now that MLG is over and he's in the US we will get tons of more streaming from him... hopefully.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 03:35:23
March 25 2012 03:34 GMT
#38819
On March 25 2012 12:32 kurrysauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:22 Ricemarine wrote:
Good job grack! beating jinro and beating Inori who eliminated Stephano is not disappointing.
This proves that he is still a world class player


As much as I'd like to agree with you . T_T he played 4 series and lost against 2 amazing players, doesnt really prove anything.

Kinda bummed he played so little this MLG. Would've liked to see him in pool play and tear it up like last year to show that he's still a top tier player. Well at least now that MLG is over and he's in the US we will get tons of more streaming from him... hopefully.

We will also see him Monday (instead of Sunday, because of MLG) in IronSquid, where he will be playing against MVP (He is already out though, but hopefully we see a good performance)
And of course he will be at IPL4 in Vegas in 2 weeks.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
March 25 2012 03:40 GMT
#38820
On March 25 2012 12:16 Holdinga wrote:
Guys what is wrong with idra's face. he seems not so good (Some sort of red dots or sth) I hope it is nothing serious because i think i used to have some sort of problems like tht ;/


If you are referring to those pics from the TL day 2 thread it could be a reaction from nerves. My skin got that blotching red crap when I was really nervous. Wearing a hoodie and jeans might not help either if it got hot in the player area.
Prev 1 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 2897 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
CranKy Ducklings156
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
ProLeague - RO32 Group A
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
ZZZero.O181
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 137
SpeCial 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13622
Sea 1403
ZZZero.O 181
White-Ra 176
NaDa 25
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm48
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor181
Other Games
tarik_tv8187
summit1g6551
Grubby2558
FrodaN228
ToD134
Maynarde96
goatrope58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick715
Counter-Strike
PGL120
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 71
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 20
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21313
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2746
Other Games
• Scarra298
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 55m
WardiTV Korean Royale
10h 55m
LAN Event
13h 55m
IPSL
16h 55m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
18h 55m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.