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On March 08 2012 04:32 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 04:19 nvs. wrote:On March 08 2012 04:01 Let it Raine wrote:On March 08 2012 03:51 Dawg_Snow wrote:On March 08 2012 02:53 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Interesting. He lost to everyone in his group, but he beat supernova, of all people. What's up with that? Lose to all weaklings and beat the strongest one? that's exactly the problem people have with Idra/his fans. how on earth can you say the other players were weaklings ? Kas, Feast ans Real are good players ffs -_- youre from europe youre a little biased But they are good players. Especially kas has a long and impressive history in SC2. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1693_Kas noone is saying there bad players, but compared to a code s player even a code a player looks like a weakling just like foreigners look like weaklings compared to code a players so saying there weakness just means they arent in the top 32
By that logic IdrA is a weakling too he lost in the first round of code A ...
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On March 08 2012 04:02 motbob wrote:
This seriously turns into the worst thread on the entire forum whenever Idra loses. Added a public note.
yes! i'm starting to think i should make an idra fanclub fanclub, since i'm not a fan of idra, but this thread is so full of brilliant nerd gibberish and colorful geek conflicts, i can't help but feel like a fan of his fans.
great games today as well - and good job by idra beating supernova.
maybe there should be a thread called "idra lost again, lets rage!" or something along those lines, instead of everyone spamming up this fan club?
at the very least i think more posters should go to disneyland for rage posting in here...
lots of <3s to all of you... ^_^
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On March 08 2012 05:37 integrity wrote:
guys i think we all need to email alex garfield to ask him if he could give greg some time off. it clear he needs a mental refresh and a few months off will do him some good
Would never happen. You do not give your most popular player time off right at the start of tournament season. Idra just needs to start winning. I am sick of all the excuses people give for him about his bad performances. He needs to stop bitching about all the matchups and play the game.
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Everytime I watch Idra its premature GG's, BM, or complaining something is imbalanced. I like it when he loses because I get to have a little laugh about all of his talk. I may be persuaded to become a fan if he ever has an attitude overhall.
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On March 08 2012 05:46 BetaFoil wrote:
Everytime I watch Idra its premature GG's, BM, or complaining something is imbalanced. I like it when he loses because I get to have a little laugh about all of his talk. I may be persuaded to become a fan if he ever has an attitude overhall.
Did he early gg, BM, or bitch about balance this time? No
Edit: When was the last time he did, anyways?
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He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise.
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It's funny how different this fan club is compared to the others. Lots of times the majority of the comments here are highly negative. Make one timid criticism of a player in another fan club and you get a warning while everyone tells you to get the fuck out.
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On March 08 2012 05:56 Silvertine wrote:
It's funny how different this fan club is compared to the others. Lots of times the majority of the comments here are highly negative. Make one timid criticism of a player in another fan club and you get a warning while everyone tells you to get the fuck out.
IdrA once said his fans were retarded, and it's true a lot of the time. Anytime he does anything wrong they'll spam this thread with negativity. And that's not even including the people who just always disliked him, and do the same.
Today I was planning on watching the replays without getting spoiled. Watched his set vs Real, then got suspicious and checked the results, since I didn't want to watch him just lose all day. Glad I did so, lol.
I hope he starts winning sometime. 
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On March 08 2012 02:38 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 02:22 Kznn wrote:On March 08 2012 02:14 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 02:11 Kznn wrote:On March 08 2012 00:51 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 00:11 Grumbels wrote:
I think the Idra vs Supernova match couldn't really influence Supernova's final standing anymore, so I'm not sure why Supernova would play his best. your dumb koreans dont hold back, there obsessed with pleasing there fans, the whole reason they drop manner mules and do dances is becuase korean fans love it no reason to play his berst? how about for his fans? unlike what seems like most foreigners (im looking at you Naniwa and Stephano) Koreans actually put there fans first IdrAs poor result is becuase of the following 1) shitty map pool all his maps agaisnt protoss were protoss favoured and not in the way idra would ahve preferred, daybreak protoss get a free third and i dont think idra is used to palying a greedy toss and Antiga is antiga nuff said 2) hes a very momentum player if Kas had been his first match he would have won but after losing to 2 protoss's in games like those on maps like those its obvious he wouldnt be in the best state of mind maps? really? thats your excuse? free third for protoss? daybreak imba for toss? ZvP: 147-113 (56.5%) REALLY? antiga is just antiga? ZvP: 46-49 (48.4%) yeah, sure... he lost cause he got "bad maps" pff.. i don't really know if I'm reading troll coments or stupid/blind fans anymore =/ its his worst match up on bad maps dude, sorry. daybreak is NOT bad for zerg. I'm sorry if you think that way. it comes down to defending your third as a zerg and putting pressure on protoss third if he tries to get one. a lot of other zergs play very well on that map and they always forces cancels on third bases, I don't see why idra can't do it too. because IdrA is a more passive defensive zerg then a brute force july zerg and the nexus survived with like 100 health -.- Show nested quote +nah that's why DarkForce Zenio, and the other 4 Zergs couldn't pass through... those god dam maps. Show nested quote +it looks like idras mentality is not here anymore.. sad to say i have been a big idra fan and i still am just looks like idras confidence isnt there anymore.. feels like his gonna quit soon.. he cant adapt to the new play styles Show nested quote +maps? really? thats your excuse? free third for protoss? daybreak imba for toss? ZvP: 147-113 (56.5%) REALLY?
antiga is just antiga? ZvP: 46-49 (48.4%) yeah, sure... he lost cause he got "bad maps" pff..
i don't really know if I'm reading troll coments or stupid/blind fans anymore =/ this is what im talking about BTW so annoying that on someones fanclub page you have to scroll through so many people here to rag on him
I can bet this is probably the only fanclub like this, do you know why? Its how IdrA presents himself, if you go on anybody else's fan page you will see nothing but praise or words of encouragement after a tough loss. IdrA is "The badboy" of sc2 and he will make a lot of haters this is known and we all know he really doesn't care. If he really cared he would of picked up his attitude months ago.
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On March 08 2012 06:09 DreamChaser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 02:38 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 02:22 Kznn wrote:On March 08 2012 02:14 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 02:11 Kznn wrote:On March 08 2012 00:51 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 00:11 Grumbels wrote:
I think the Idra vs Supernova match couldn't really influence Supernova's final standing anymore, so I'm not sure why Supernova would play his best. your dumb koreans dont hold back, there obsessed with pleasing there fans, the whole reason they drop manner mules and do dances is becuase korean fans love it no reason to play his berst? how about for his fans? unlike what seems like most foreigners (im looking at you Naniwa and Stephano) Koreans actually put there fans first IdrAs poor result is becuase of the following 1) shitty map pool all his maps agaisnt protoss were protoss favoured and not in the way idra would ahve preferred, daybreak protoss get a free third and i dont think idra is used to palying a greedy toss and Antiga is antiga nuff said 2) hes a very momentum player if Kas had been his first match he would have won but after losing to 2 protoss's in games like those on maps like those its obvious he wouldnt be in the best state of mind maps? really? thats your excuse? free third for protoss? daybreak imba for toss? ZvP: 147-113 (56.5%) REALLY? antiga is just antiga? ZvP: 46-49 (48.4%) yeah, sure... he lost cause he got "bad maps" pff.. i don't really know if I'm reading troll coments or stupid/blind fans anymore =/ its his worst match up on bad maps dude, sorry. daybreak is NOT bad for zerg. I'm sorry if you think that way. it comes down to defending your third as a zerg and putting pressure on protoss third if he tries to get one. a lot of other zergs play very well on that map and they always forces cancels on third bases, I don't see why idra can't do it too. because IdrA is a more passive defensive zerg then a brute force july zerg and the nexus survived with like 100 health -.- nah that's why DarkForce Zenio, and the other 4 Zergs couldn't pass through... those god dam maps. it looks like idras mentality is not here anymore.. sad to say i have been a big idra fan and i still am just looks like idras confidence isnt there anymore.. feels like his gonna quit soon.. he cant adapt to the new play styles I learned my lesson already -_- maps? really? thats your excuse? free third for protoss? daybreak imba for toss? ZvP: 147-113 (56.5%) REALLY?
antiga is just antiga? ZvP: 46-49 (48.4%) yeah, sure... he lost cause he got "bad maps" pff..
i don't really know if I'm reading troll coments or stupid/blind fans anymore =/ this is what im talking about BTW so annoying that on someones fanclub page you have to scroll through so many people here to rag on him I can bet this is probably the only fanclub like this, do you know why? Its how IdrA presents himself, if you go on anybody else's fan page you will see nothing but praise or words of encouragement after a tough loss. IdrA is "The badboy" of sc2 and he will make a lot of haters this is known and we all know he really doesn't care. If he really cared he would of picked up his attitude months ago.
Geoff "InControl" Robinson
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On March 08 2012 05:55 BetaFoil wrote:
He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise.
The 6-pool match was kind of in response to Alive cheesing hime twice though. If Alive didn't care about giving good games, then why should Idra? In that case, I think it was justified(to some extent. I mean, he still could've tried an all in actually possible to win with, but against good terrans that's kind of impossible most of the time)
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On March 08 2012 06:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:09 DreamChaser wrote:On March 08 2012 02:38 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 02:22 Kznn wrote:On March 08 2012 02:14 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 02:11 Kznn wrote:On March 08 2012 00:51 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 00:11 Grumbels wrote:
I think the Idra vs Supernova match couldn't really influence Supernova's final standing anymore, so I'm not sure why Supernova would play his best. your dumb koreans dont hold back, there obsessed with pleasing there fans, the whole reason they drop manner mules and do dances is becuase korean fans love it no reason to play his berst? how about for his fans? unlike what seems like most foreigners (im looking at you Naniwa and Stephano) Koreans actually put there fans first IdrAs poor result is becuase of the following 1) shitty map pool all his maps agaisnt protoss were protoss favoured and not in the way idra would ahve preferred, daybreak protoss get a free third and i dont think idra is used to palying a greedy toss and Antiga is antiga nuff said 2) hes a very momentum player if Kas had been his first match he would have won but after losing to 2 protoss's in games like those on maps like those its obvious he wouldnt be in the best state of mind maps? really? thats your excuse? free third for protoss? daybreak imba for toss? ZvP: 147-113 (56.5%) REALLY? antiga is just antiga? ZvP: 46-49 (48.4%) yeah, sure... he lost cause he got "bad maps" pff.. i don't really know if I'm reading troll coments or stupid/blind fans anymore =/ its his worst match up on bad maps dude, sorry. daybreak is NOT bad for zerg. I'm sorry if you think that way. it comes down to defending your third as a zerg and putting pressure on protoss third if he tries to get one. a lot of other zergs play very well on that map and they always forces cancels on third bases, I don't see why idra can't do it too. because IdrA is a more passive defensive zerg then a brute force july zerg and the nexus survived with like 100 health -.- nah that's why DarkForce Zenio, and the other 4 Zergs couldn't pass through... those god dam maps. it looks like idras mentality is not here anymore.. sad to say i have been a big idra fan and i still am just looks like idras confidence isnt there anymore.. feels like his gonna quit soon.. he cant adapt to the new play styles I learned my lesson already -_- maps? really? thats your excuse? free third for protoss? daybreak imba for toss? ZvP: 147-113 (56.5%) REALLY?
antiga is just antiga? ZvP: 46-49 (48.4%) yeah, sure... he lost cause he got "bad maps" pff..
i don't really know if I'm reading troll coments or stupid/blind fans anymore =/ this is what im talking about BTW so annoying that on someones fanclub page you have to scroll through so many people here to rag on him I can bet this is probably the only fanclub like this, do you know why? Its how IdrA presents himself, if you go on anybody else's fan page you will see nothing but praise or words of encouragement after a tough loss. IdrA is "The badboy" of sc2 and he will make a lot of haters this is known and we all know he really doesn't care. If he really cared he would of picked up his attitude months ago. Geoff "InControl" Robinson
and he's pretty much just behind Idra in fans/anti fans, except the anti-fans are purely retarded in most cases. I mean, most Incontrol haters are way worse than Idra haters o_O
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On March 08 2012 06:15 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 05:55 BetaFoil wrote:
He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise. The 6-pool match was kind of in response to Alive cheesing hime twice though. If Alive didn't care about giving good games, then why should Idra? In that case, I think it was justified(to some extent. I mean, he still could've tried an all in actually possible to win with, but against good terrans that's kind of impossible most of the time)
It was nowhere near justified.
A roach/ling/bling attack that DRG uses a lot would've been more along the lines to what Alive was doing in game 1 and 2. A strategy that punishes greedy terrans and has quite a bit of success in actual pro games. Double sixpool was just a big "FU" to his opponent and the showmatch organizers.
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I've never been an Idra-fan, but he made SCII-esports so much more dramatic and entertaining. That's why, in his bad days, I'm rooting for him.
Go Idra! Better luck next time!
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On March 08 2012 06:31 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:15 Aocowns wrote:On March 08 2012 05:55 BetaFoil wrote:
He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise. The 6-pool match was kind of in response to Alive cheesing hime twice though. If Alive didn't care about giving good games, then why should Idra? In that case, I think it was justified(to some extent. I mean, he still could've tried an all in actually possible to win with, but against good terrans that's kind of impossible most of the time) It was nowhere near justified. A roach/ling/bling attack that DRG uses a lot would've been more along the lines to what Alive was doing in game 1 and 2. A strategy that punishes greedy terrans and has quite a bit of success in actual pro games. Double sixpool was just a big "FU" to his opponent and the showmatch organizers.
so you agree that its the perfect IdrA move
hes said he wasnt given much in the way of notice so id assume these games were palyed well in advance and hes said he didnt care about the games and if he did do the roach/baneling all-in the end result would ahve been the same IdrA cheesed the game out who cares if he won id rather see him cheese to throw the game then cheese to try and win
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On March 08 2012 06:37 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:31 Bagi wrote:On March 08 2012 06:15 Aocowns wrote:On March 08 2012 05:55 BetaFoil wrote:
He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise. The 6-pool match was kind of in response to Alive cheesing hime twice though. If Alive didn't care about giving good games, then why should Idra? In that case, I think it was justified(to some extent. I mean, he still could've tried an all in actually possible to win with, but against good terrans that's kind of impossible most of the time) It was nowhere near justified. A roach/ling/bling attack that DRG uses a lot would've been more along the lines to what Alive was doing in game 1 and 2. A strategy that punishes greedy terrans and has quite a bit of success in actual pro games. Double sixpool was just a big "FU" to his opponent and the showmatch organizers. so you agree that its the perfect IdrA move hes said he wasnt given much in the way of notice so id assume these games were palyed well in advance and hes said he didnt care about the games and if he did do the roach/baneling all-in the end result would ahve been the same IdrA cheesed the game out who cares if he won id rather see him cheese to throw the game then cheese to try and win
...what?
No it's not the perfect Idra move, if anything its a manifestation of a larger mental block Idra has: the inability to play in a situation that is somehow unfavorable to him. Down 2-0 to a very good Korean terran, lets throw away the entire series because he doesnt like the maps? The worst thing a Idra fan could do is make excuses for him throwing away the series, because its a perfect example of the attitude that prevents Idra from becoming one of the best players in the world, even when he has what it takes. Its utterly retarded and the fans who eat up his excuses are just a part of the problem.
You can think of a excuse for every situation Idra loses in, but wouldn't you rather see him try his best even when the odds are against him?
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On March 08 2012 06:50 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:37 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Bagi wrote:On March 08 2012 06:15 Aocowns wrote:On March 08 2012 05:55 BetaFoil wrote:
He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise. The 6-pool match was kind of in response to Alive cheesing hime twice though. If Alive didn't care about giving good games, then why should Idra? In that case, I think it was justified(to some extent. I mean, he still could've tried an all in actually possible to win with, but against good terrans that's kind of impossible most of the time) It was nowhere near justified. A roach/ling/bling attack that DRG uses a lot would've been more along the lines to what Alive was doing in game 1 and 2. A strategy that punishes greedy terrans and has quite a bit of success in actual pro games. Double sixpool was just a big "FU" to his opponent and the showmatch organizers. so you agree that its the perfect IdrA move hes said he wasnt given much in the way of notice so id assume these games were palyed well in advance and hes said he didnt care about the games and if he did do the roach/baneling all-in the end result would ahve been the same IdrA cheesed the game out who cares if he won id rather see him cheese to throw the game then cheese to try and win ...what? No it's not the perfect Idra move, if anything its a manifestation of a larger mental block Idra has: the inability to play in a situation that is somehow unfavorable to him. Down 2-0 to a very good Korean terran, lets throw away the entire series because he doesnt like the maps? The worst thing a Idra fan could do is make excuses for him throwing away the series, because its a perfect example of the attitude that prevents Idra from becoming one of the best players in the world, even when he has what it takes. Its utterly retarded and the fans who eat up his excuses are just a part of the problem. You can think of a excuse for every situation Idra loses in, but wouldn't you rather see him try his best even when the odds are against him?
what...?
your not making sense, IdrA doesnt like showmatchs, idra especially doesnt like cheese in showmatchs, idra doesnt like being given short notice for showmatch
all of the above happened so he threw the showmatch, how is that different then stephano forfieting TWO finals and Naniwas probe rush?
on an unrelated note im trying to find some good recent photos of IdrA, ideally full body photos but id like some close ups on the head too ideally in his EG shirt and without headphones on
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Went to sleep after the darkforce games. SO happy to see that he won against supernova. I think IdrA had the ability to take this tournament but he was definitely lacking mentally. I don't just mean the early GG's but he had a few bad engagements too many and some mis-micros (usually doesn't happen). I just remember thinking to myself "hmmm, if he didn't engage there he might have won."
All in all, I'm ecstatic that he didn't just give up after being knocked out of the tournament and pushed supernova to the limit and taking him out 2-1. He may have been dominated in the first 4 games but he he didn't give up against supernova (the tough guy in the group) and closed out the tournament in such a strong manner. Keep your head up IdrA!
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On March 08 2012 06:52 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:50 Bagi wrote:On March 08 2012 06:37 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Bagi wrote:On March 08 2012 06:15 Aocowns wrote:On March 08 2012 05:55 BetaFoil wrote:
He did early GG sort of. After the drop in game 2 vs Kas he was behind and he seen the second attack coming but he possibly holds by sacing the 3rd and making some spines.
Also regarding your second question: the 6 pooling showmatch against (Alive?) was pretty BM and not worthy any fans praise. The 6-pool match was kind of in response to Alive cheesing hime twice though. If Alive didn't care about giving good games, then why should Idra? In that case, I think it was justified(to some extent. I mean, he still could've tried an all in actually possible to win with, but against good terrans that's kind of impossible most of the time) It was nowhere near justified. A roach/ling/bling attack that DRG uses a lot would've been more along the lines to what Alive was doing in game 1 and 2. A strategy that punishes greedy terrans and has quite a bit of success in actual pro games. Double sixpool was just a big "FU" to his opponent and the showmatch organizers. so you agree that its the perfect IdrA move hes said he wasnt given much in the way of notice so id assume these games were palyed well in advance and hes said he didnt care about the games and if he did do the roach/baneling all-in the end result would ahve been the same IdrA cheesed the game out who cares if he won id rather see him cheese to throw the game then cheese to try and win ...what? No it's not the perfect Idra move, if anything its a manifestation of a larger mental block Idra has: the inability to play in a situation that is somehow unfavorable to him. Down 2-0 to a very good Korean terran, lets throw away the entire series because he doesnt like the maps? The worst thing a Idra fan could do is make excuses for him throwing away the series, because its a perfect example of the attitude that prevents Idra from becoming one of the best players in the world, even when he has what it takes. Its utterly retarded and the fans who eat up his excuses are just a part of the problem. You can think of a excuse for every situation Idra loses in, but wouldn't you rather see him try his best even when the odds are against him? what...? your not making sense, IdrA doesnt like showmatchs, idra especially doesnt like cheese in showmatchs, idra doesnt like being given short notice for showmatch all of the above happened so he threw the showmatch, how is that different then stephano forfieting TWO finals and Naniwas probe rush?
Am I somehow condoning Stephanos and Naniwas actions? Did I even mention them? Could you think of a bigger strawman argument even if you tried?
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