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On March 06 2012 10:12 walklightwhat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 09:52 Martijn wrote:
Granted, the Hotel looks poor. I'm not sure I'd be very comfortable in there if I had to spend a week there either. However;
1. If you tell someone in the fighting game community you've booked a hotel room for them and they'll get ~600 (was it?) just for showing up, the hotel could be a cardboard box and they'd shake your hand and thank you.
2. Cebit is massive and eSports simply isn't the main stage there.
3. Implying that it's the fans that should be paying for player accommodation and not the sponsors is just very poorly put. There is so many things he could have said that a community would have related to.
“You all paying money so I can get my own toilet” surely wasn't the right message.
Like I said on twitter, cut first place prize by ~750 (random amount grabbed out of nowhere) and everyone can get a slightly better room if that's even possible with cebit in town.
All this really makes me wonder why people are letting $$ signs replace passion. It certainly makes eSports look bad and explains where the whole “eSports vs FGC” debate keeps getting fuel from.
Of course, then I realized this was all just about some tweet Greg probably typed out whimsically while picking his nose or whatever you're supposed to do in a hotel room like that. zzzzz
Rock some worlds this week man! Somehow I doubt IdrA cares about what the community is getting mad about today. Why would anyone sane?
your problem is your assuming that for some reason removing money from the prize pool means that palyer accomodations are next in line
guranteed IEM is running in the red, if they were willing to shave off any money from the prize pool it certainly wouldnt go to the gamers
and if your "paying money so i can get my own toilet" part was related to IdrAs tweet about PPV i think youve taken it the wrong way, for him as a player hes interested in his own comfort, just like most of us dont actually care about player comfort only about the games and organizers dont partically care about the games as they do about revenue
as a player he has to do what he can to ensure he can paly his best, he wants to be able to sleep on a comfy bed and not have to go for a long stroll to go to the bathroom
i really dont get what your "$$ signs replace passion" thing is, money makes the world go round whoever said money cant buy happiness has never bought a happy meal
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Please don't start a huge discussion here in the fanclub. That's just not the place for it.
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On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG
Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago..
but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"!
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On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"!
Sorry, man, you're just wrong. He didn't respect the playstyle, but that's different. Remember HSC3?
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On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"!
this is so wrong on many levels. IdrA has explicitly said that him and HuK were friends IRL, just not in game.
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This world people live in where flipping someone off is a sign of undying hatred... It sounds interesting.
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On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"!
You are clearly blind to the theatrics gamers put on. They are paid to entertain and if they make you think that they hate each other then you are more likely to watch. Idra never disliked Huk to the degree that you think. Idra might have disliked his playstyle but they were never hated each other. If they did, do you think they would have become friends as easily as they did when Huk joined EG? of course not.
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On March 06 2012 13:22 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"! You are clearly blind to the theatrics gamers put on. They are paid to entertain and if they make you think that they hate each other then you are more likely to watch. Idra never disliked Huk to the degree that you think. Idra might have disliked his playstyle but they were never hated each other. If they did, do you think they would have become friends as easily as they did when Huk joined EG? of course not.
And Idra has said himself he has never hated Huk, just his playstyle which is completely different lol. The community just over reacts like him ^^
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On March 06 2012 13:19 Whole wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"! this is so wrong on many levels. IdrA has explicitly said that him and HuK were friends IRL, just not in game.
He said that after a contract was made, obviously his opinion on HuK changed dramatically when he was forced to be a teammate with him.
W/e I wasn't trying to cause some debate, but maybe some of you weren't present 1+ years ago? Before HuK produced major results in big tournaments? Maybe they were friends in the brief period of time before HuK joined EG and was owning up GSL etc, but before that there was just no "friendship" between them.
and yeah, you wouldn't say "fuck off" to your friend or flip him off (in an absolute non laughing/joking way) at an MLG, etc, which he did. Point is people don't just magically become great friends throughout all history because of a contract. But they are friends now though, and that is cool.
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On March 06 2012 13:26 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 13:19 Whole wrote:On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"! this is so wrong on many levels. IdrA has explicitly said that him and HuK were friends IRL, just not in game. He said that after a contract was made, obviously his opinion on HuK changed dramatically when he was forced to be a teammate with him. W/e I wasn't trying to cause some debate, but maybe some of you weren't present 1+ years ago? Before HuK produced major results in big tournaments? Maybe they were friends in the brief period of time before HuK joined EG and was owning up GSL etc, but before that there was just no "friendship" between them. and yeah, you wouldn't say "fuck off" to your friend or flip him off (in an absolute non laughing/joking way) at an MLG, etc, which he did. Point is people don't just magically become great friends throughout all history because of a contract. But they are friends now though, and that is cool.
I'm not sure if you're trolling or just don't understand how entertainment works. The image was created that they hated each other so the entertainment value of their rivalry could be elevated. How is that so hard to see? If idra really hated Huk, why would Idra stay with EG when Huk joined? It makes no sense and can only be explained by the fact that they actually never hated each other. It's as simple as that.
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We aren't saying they magically became great friends. IdrA never liked the way HuK played, but it isn't like they personally hated each other. Eventually, IdrA warmed up to HuK because they'd see eachother at tournaments all of the time, and IdrA says that HuK plays very well now. I even remember watching an MLG after party stream, and HuK casually asked IdrA how to pronounce his name. Then they started to joke about how Artosis is retarded. This was in the midst of their rivalry. They definitely did not hate eachother on a personal level.
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On March 06 2012 13:26 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 13:19 Whole wrote:On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"! this is so wrong on many levels. IdrA has explicitly said that him and HuK were friends IRL, just not in game. He said that after a contract was made, obviously his opinion on HuK changed dramatically when he was forced to be a teammate with him. W/e I wasn't trying to cause some debate, but maybe some of you weren't present 1+ years ago? Before HuK produced major results in big tournaments? Maybe they were friends in the brief period of time before HuK joined EG and was owning up GSL etc, but before that there was just no "friendship" between them. and yeah, you wouldn't say "fuck off" to your friend or flip him off (in an absolute non laughing/joking way) at an MLG, etc, which he did. Point is people don't just magically become great friends throughout all history because of a contract. But they are friends now though, and that is cool.
...Dude. Whole is the current administrator of the entire freaking fanclub. The earliest post I can find from him is on page 25. He's been around a while. I'm gonna take his word (and all of Idra's interviews, and their interactions at HSC3) over yours.
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Just don't take my word on IdrA's BW career...I wasn't around for that sadly 
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Where are the vids I want to see the Gracken get released!!!
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On March 06 2012 13:26 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 13:19 Whole wrote:On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"! this is so wrong on many levels. IdrA has explicitly said that him and HuK were friends IRL, just not in game. He said that after a contract was made, obviously his opinion on HuK changed dramatically when he was forced to be a teammate with him. W/e I wasn't trying to cause some debate, but maybe some of you weren't present 1+ years ago? Before HuK produced major results in big tournaments? Maybe they were friends in the brief period of time before HuK joined EG and was owning up GSL etc, but before that there was just no "friendship" between them. and yeah, you wouldn't say "fuck off" to your friend or flip him off (in an absolute non laughing/joking way) at an MLG, etc, which he did. Point is people don't just magically become great friends throughout all history because of a contract. But they are friends now though, and that is cool.
do you watch State of the Game?
it was really interesting in there last show they actually had NesTea on which was pretty huge, he had alot of interesting things to say i highly suggest it
in fact, one of the questions was about all the BM you see in teh GSL like all the dancing and manner mules and DRG and Genius's out of booth trips, they asked NesTea what he thought about it and what other pros thought about
now im not going to quote him word for word but essentially what he said was "the koreans fans love it when people do this and they go crazy so really we do it for the fans and players realise that they dont actually mean it and rarely get angry"
same deal with HuK and IdrA IdrA has built a HUGE image from beta (remember apologize for playing that race) and HuK is known about a pretty personality filled sort of guy, IdrA especially early in WoL made a huge image of himself as an anti-cheeser who constantly bashed people who cheesed and HuK like alot of protoss loved his timing attacks and unlike other protoss he was a more out there kinda guy so its only natural for them to be shown as rivals
its the same with IdrA and Cruncher he saids he doesnt like himbut im sure when they meet in Lans or at events away from fans theyll talk to each other pretty friendly
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please just shut the haters up and win IEM. thanks!
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On March 06 2012 13:26 AegiS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 13:19 Whole wrote:On March 06 2012 13:13 AegiS_ wrote:On March 05 2012 08:14 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2012 08:13 DreamChaser wrote:
Was anybody else touched at how friendly huk and idra where. All i could think was way back how much they hated each other and now they are bffl's (ok i wouldn't go that far). Really makes me feel warm inside. It was all pretty much an in-game ''hatred'' though. They have both repeastedly said that they were pretty good pals even before Huk was EG Lmao sorry but I have to be honest, they hated eachother, well at least Idra didn't like HuK (including his play and his personality). remember when Idra flipped off huk at an MLG? They were not friends before, and idra always called him derogatory things on SOTG (called him a prick or something on SOTG for an interview huk did in the GSL). This was of course a VERY long time ago.. but I guess contracts can create bizarre and spontanious "friendships"! this is so wrong on many levels. IdrA has explicitly said that him and HuK were friends IRL, just not in game. He said that after a contract was made, obviously his opinion on HuK changed dramatically when he was forced to be a teammate with him. W/e I wasn't trying to cause some debate, but maybe some of you weren't present 1+ years ago? Before HuK produced major results in big tournaments? Maybe they were friends in the brief period of time before HuK joined EG and was owning up GSL etc, but before that there was just no "friendship" between them. and yeah, you wouldn't say "fuck off" to your friend or flip him off (in an absolute non laughing/joking way) at an MLG, etc, which he did. Point is people don't just magically become great friends throughout all history because of a contract. But they are friends now though, and that is cool.
The internet. A place where you are told who is, and who isn't, a friend of yours.
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mc and mvp hwaiting for idra. hope he can win against either.
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From Greg's twitter:
Hey everyone stop complaining about iem accomodations they had a whole jar of nutella for breakfast
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I love Idra to death, he is never afraid to speak his mind.
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