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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 23 2011 08:16 GMT
#27241
Huk is going back to Korea before Providence for GSL November, so it depends on whether Idra plans to participate in this season or the next one.
DeaTH.1914
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada79 Posts
October 23 2011 08:18 GMT
#27242
On October 23 2011 07:43 xtfftc wrote:
I think I've made the rest of my views clear enough, so I'm only going to point out something about professional tennis. The comparison with the current state of the SC2 scene is a good one - but this is something tennis is actually criticised for. Even the players themselves complain about this situation. I don't remember which one but a few months ago one of the best players in the world went on strike because the top players are forced to play way too many games in a season. This results in a lower standard of play and lots of injuries.

I probably did read too much into what you wrote but it wasn't meant to be directed at you in particular - I've read/heard similar stuff lots of times. And I criticise fans of football teams who tend to be obsessed with certain players; it's definitely not something that is limited to StarCraft fans.



First things first, the Flames are a Canadian Hockey team based in the city of Calgary, Alberta, they play in the National Hockey League.

Second, in relation to your Tennis analogy (assuming you watch Tennis) you would know that the top 4 seeds, almost always are the top 4 in every major tournament. With your past reasoning this completely defeats the purpose of watching tennis, yet people still do and should for that matter as it can be very entertaining even with the same four people playing.

With that said I believe that the best, highest skill and most likely highest seeded players should potentially be in the top 4 of the tournament as they tend to give the most entertaining games (much like tennis), and people have a right to be upset if their favourite player gets knocked out in an early round. Especially if its due to cheese or gimmicky timings. If this causes then to no longer be interested in the tournament, its their choice. At least the tournament had more viewership (no matter how negligible the number is) for the duration of that players run.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 23 2011 08:44 GMT
#27243
On October 23 2011 17:06 AGM-Hellfire wrote:


Hope it's comfortable for idra doesn't look like he'll be sleeping there just playing. Do we know if he's going to Korea before providence like huk and puma?


Idra said it was one of the best training houses in Korea so it should be coolio.
maru lover forever
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 08:46:19
October 23 2011 08:45 GMT
#27244
DeaTH.1914, did you completely miss the part where I pointed out that professional tennis is being criticised for this and that the players themselves, who make millions from playing the game, are not happy with the structure
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 23 2011 08:46 GMT
#27245
I just realised that Idra will spend some time training in the same house as Cella... Awesome.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 23 2011 10:12 GMT
#27246
On October 23 2011 17:46 xtfftc wrote:
I just realised that Idra will spend some time training in the same house as Cella... Awesome.


Wonder if IdrA thought he would train with BoxeR when SC2 was announced
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
October 23 2011 10:15 GMT
#27247
IdrA gunna drink a lot of Pocari Sweat
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 23 2011 10:29 GMT
#27248
I wonder if Idra can implement ling counter-attacks to early pressure in ZvT similarly to Stephano. Stephano's gameplan usually involves a lot of lings with a lot of early upgrades, so when a terran pressures him with marines in the early game, he is not hesitant to make an awful lot of lings to crush it. Afterwards, he goes straight for the SCVs because he has already invested in the lings and he usually ends up ahead.
However, Idra usually goes for mutas and he needs more drones to mine enough gas to support them, so tries to make the absolute minimum of lings in order not to skip any drones. When he deflects the pressure, he doesn't have spare lings to sacrifice for killing SCVs.
Terrans will adapt to Stephano's style with time, of course. MKP in particular didn't seem to expect the counterattacks in both games and didn't set up any defences in time, so 10-15 lings got to kill 5-6 SCVs with some focus fire. But still, even when the terrans start preparing with bunkers and cutting some SCVs in order to get more marines on time, it'd be a small victory for zergs.

On October 23 2011 19:12 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 17:46 xtfftc wrote:
I just realised that Idra will spend some time training in the same house as Cella... Awesome.


Wonder if IdrA thought he would train with BoxeR when SC2 was announced

I don't think he's ever been in awe with Boxer. I'm sure he'd appreciate it but he won't be like "Woah, Boxer". If he had the chance to train with Nada though... I'm sure that even Idra would turn into a giddy fangirl in such a situation.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
October 23 2011 10:48 GMT
#27249
On October 23 2011 19:29 xtfftc wrote:
I wonder if Idra can implement ling counter-attacks to early pressure in ZvT similarly to Stephano. Stephano's gameplan usually involves a lot of lings with a lot of early upgrades, so when a terran pressures him with marines in the early game, he is not hesitant to make an awful lot of lings to crush it. Afterwards, he goes straight for the SCVs because he has already invested in the lings and he usually ends up ahead.


i think many people would consider idra's zvt stronger than that of stephano. i also find stephano's early lings, and this is probably idra's philosophy, chewing up too many larvae and minerals to what could've been drones.

Both methods have proven succesful. however, the muta style adapted as a standard playstyle works well even when the opponents are expecting it. as idra said, stephano's playstyle may probably be adapted by other terran players.

that being said, stephano's zvt is innovative, and maybe possibly be the new answer to the infinite number of early terran pressure.
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 11:13:14
October 23 2011 11:11 GMT
#27250
<edit>
oh in the sun sun having fun
Oats123
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
October 23 2011 11:19 GMT
#27251
On October 23 2011 17:06 AGM-Hellfire wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vD_4RELCK0

Hope it's comfortable for idra doesn't look like he'll be sleeping there just playing. Do we know if he's going to Korea before providence like huk and puma?


A bit off topic but i thought Boxer and Jessica would get the master room =/ but any ways that is probably the nicest Korean Pro gaming house I've seen yet, but of course not as good as the EG mansion
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 11:24:26
October 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#27252
On October 23 2011 17:44 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 17:06 AGM-Hellfire wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vD_4RELCK0

Hope it's comfortable for idra doesn't look like he'll be sleeping there just playing. Do we know if he's going to Korea before providence like huk and puma?


Idra said it was one of the best training houses in Korea so it should be coolio.

Double rice cooker standard build for kitchen in korea? (2:08 in video)
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
October 23 2011 14:51 GMT
#27253
So I'm watching the Electronic Sports World Cup (Stephano vs Mana finals), and I noticed Idra fell in the first round? Did anyone watch those games? I've never even heard of his opponent. :S
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
October 23 2011 15:06 GMT
#27254
On October 23 2011 23:51 jeeeeohn wrote:
So I'm watching the Electronic Sports World Cup (Stephano vs Mana finals), and I noticed Idra fell in the first round? Did anyone watch those games? I've never even heard of his opponent. :S

Big upset, Idra apparently played shitty. I just say we forget this tournament even happened
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
October 23 2011 15:31 GMT
#27255
On October 24 2011 00:06 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 23:51 jeeeeohn wrote:
So I'm watching the Electronic Sports World Cup (Stephano vs Mana finals), and I noticed Idra fell in the first round? Did anyone watch those games? I've never even heard of his opponent. :S

Big upset, Idra apparently played shitty. I just say we forget this tournament even happened


Hah, oh well. Next time Gracken!
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 23 2011 15:59 GMT
#27256
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/motbob/Providence_full.png

^^The bracket for MLG.

Idra only has to win 4 series to win the whole thing, but his half of the bracket looks soooooooo much harder than the lower half...

He has Bomber/MC/MMA/DRG in his half of the bracket.

Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
October 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#27257
Oh shyte... I don't think MC can take Bomber though. If he gets Bomber then MMA I'm fairly certain he can pull through. Seems its going to be an inevitable loss to Huk in the Winner's bracket finals, assuming he even gets past Bomber and MMA/DRG
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
October 23 2011 16:21 GMT
#27258
On October 24 2011 00:59 Chewbacca. wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/motbob/Providence_full.png

^^The bracket for MLG.

Idra only has to win 4 series to win the whole thing, but his half of the bracket looks soooooooo much harder than the lower half...

He has Bomber/MC/MMA/DRG in his half of the bracket.



Yea it's tough, but you make it sound like he'd have to play all of them. He's going to play Bomber and DRG, and that's it. Maybe MC could beat Bomber, but I don't see MMA standing a chance against DRG.
Grackodile
Profile Joined January 2011
United States263 Posts
October 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#27259
On October 24 2011 01:21 Mr Showtime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 00:59 Chewbacca. wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/motbob/Providence_full.png

^^The bracket for MLG.

Idra only has to win 4 series to win the whole thing, but his half of the bracket looks soooooooo much harder than the lower half...

He has Bomber/MC/MMA/DRG in his half of the bracket.



Yea it's tough, but you make it sound like he'd have to play all of them. He's going to play Bomber and DRG, and that's it. Maybe MC could beat Bomber, but I don't see MMA standing a chance against DRG.


You guys keep forgetting could play against the number 1 open player (IMMvp)
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 17:12:23
October 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#27260
mod edit: spoiler.

User was warned for this post
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