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On December 22 2010 17:04 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 07:01 SCnai wrote:
Morrow has just won a tournament with Zerg. If Idra starts using the word 'equilibrium' a lot, do not wonder why. There's been 2 patches since he said that. It's taken Morrow a really long time. This race switch has probably lost him $5000 +
Is he not allowed to play what he wants, and as far as i can remember there was no 2 month stamp on any diss idra dished out that day.
The amount of hate morrow gets astounds me.
And the last post solidifies my claim, idra should just learn to watch his mouth, it's not that hard. If he's bm'ing from a strong sense of righteousness about skill shouldn't he just give all his winnings to mvp who would probably be the landslide winner if the sc2 crew held a bw* tournament (maybe mc stands a chance since he seems to have stopped choking) and hence getting held back by sc2 imba and being unlucky.
*bw being the benchmark game where most players skills are judged, like idra>morrow at iem.
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On December 22 2010 09:59 riverkim09 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 09:58 Knix wrote:
Yeah he won Viking Cup #81239 with a 50 euro prize for first. Such an epic achievement, almost rivals qualifying for GSL Code S and winning MLG DC by a landslide. At least Morrow doesn't BM hahahaha
small price to pay for being ten times as successful as morrow in both bw and sc2
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On December 22 2010 19:01 corpsepose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 09:59 riverkim09 wrote:On December 22 2010 09:58 Knix wrote:
Yeah he won Viking Cup #81239 with a 50 euro prize for first. Such an epic achievement, almost rivals qualifying for GSL Code S and winning MLG DC by a landslide. At least Morrow doesn't BM hahahaha small price to pay for being ten times as successful as morrow in both bw and sc2
You mean successful as in losing to him in IEM when morrow spends 1/5th the time on sc2?
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You don't need more time for practicing Reaper rushes.
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On December 22 2010 18:21 Grebliv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 17:04 Klive5ive wrote:On December 22 2010 07:01 SCnai wrote:
Morrow has just won a tournament with Zerg. If Idra starts using the word 'equilibrium' a lot, do not wonder why. There's been 2 patches since he said that. It's taken Morrow a really long time. This race switch has probably lost him $5000 + Is he not allowed to play what he wants, and as far as i can remember there was no 2 month stamp on any diss idra dished out that day. The amount of hate morrow gets astounds me. And the last post solidifies my claim, idra should just learn to watch his mouth, it's not that hard. If he's bm'ing from a strong sense of righteousness about skill shouldn't he just give all his winnings to mvp who would probably be the landslide winner if the sc2 crew held a bw* tournament (maybe mc stands a chance since he seems to have stopped choking) and hence getting held back by sc2 imba and being unlucky. *bw being the benchmark game where most players skills are judged, like idra>morrow at iem.
Everything you say is either pointless or wrong.
I don't hate Morrow he's a dam good player that's why he was winning everything he entered with ease. He'd made a lot more money than IdrA when he switched to Zerg. Then even after the 2 patches he still didn't win a tournament for another month.
IdrA obviously had a good point since it's taken Morrow so long to win even a tiny meaningless tourny after 2 patches, new maps etc...
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Isnt this the idra fan club not morrow fan club?
EVERYTHING HERE MUST BE BIASED TOWARDS IDRA get out if you don't like it. This isn't the thread for reasonable well thought out responses to whether idra is a whining bitch or that morrow is just a shit player. this is the OMG IDRA IS AMAZING THREAD so can we get back to that?
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On December 22 2010 19:24 sekritzzz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 19:01 corpsepose wrote:On December 22 2010 09:59 riverkim09 wrote:On December 22 2010 09:58 Knix wrote:
Yeah he won Viking Cup #81239 with a 50 euro prize for first. Such an epic achievement, almost rivals qualifying for GSL Code S and winning MLG DC by a landslide. At least Morrow doesn't BM hahahaha small price to pay for being ten times as successful as morrow in both bw and sc2 You mean successful as in losing to him in IEM when morrow spends 1/5th the time on sc2?
Morrow even said himself that he won because the strategy he used every single game was imbalanced, doesn't make him a better player. Honestly I think we all know that IdrA is 100 times better than Morrow, that is probably the reason why Morrow-fans are trolling in the IdrA-fanclub.
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On December 22 2010 19:24 sekritzzz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 19:01 corpsepose wrote:On December 22 2010 09:59 riverkim09 wrote:On December 22 2010 09:58 Knix wrote:
Yeah he won Viking Cup #81239 with a 50 euro prize for first. Such an epic achievement, almost rivals qualifying for GSL Code S and winning MLG DC by a landslide. At least Morrow doesn't BM hahahaha small price to pay for being ten times as successful as morrow in both bw and sc2 You mean successful as in losing to him in IEM when morrow spends 1/5th the time on sc2?
nah im pretty sure he means successful as in idra has a better track record than morrow..but hey thats just me
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On December 22 2010 19:45 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 18:21 Grebliv wrote:On December 22 2010 17:04 Klive5ive wrote:On December 22 2010 07:01 SCnai wrote:
Morrow has just won a tournament with Zerg. If Idra starts using the word 'equilibrium' a lot, do not wonder why. There's been 2 patches since he said that. It's taken Morrow a really long time. This race switch has probably lost him $5000 + Is he not allowed to play what he wants, and as far as i can remember there was no 2 month stamp on any diss idra dished out that day. The amount of hate morrow gets astounds me. And the last post solidifies my claim, idra should just learn to watch his mouth, it's not that hard. If he's bm'ing from a strong sense of righteousness about skill shouldn't he just give all his winnings to mvp who would probably be the landslide winner if the sc2 crew held a bw* tournament (maybe mc stands a chance since he seems to have stopped choking) and hence getting held back by sc2 imba and being unlucky. *bw being the benchmark game where most players skills are judged, like idra>morrow at iem. Everything you say is either pointless or wrong. I don't hate Morrow he's a dam good player that's why he was winning everything he entered with ease. He'd made a lot more money than IdrA when he switched to Zerg. Then even after the 2 patches he still didn't win a tournament for another month. IdrA obviously had a good point since it's taken Morrow so long to win even a tiny meaningless tourny after 2 patches, new maps etc...
I have a funny feeling that idra 2 weeks into beta transported in time to the time where morrow switched wouldn't have been doing too much. Of course it takes time to learn a new very different race from the ground up and play it at top level vs players with much more experience.
and apparently he's gotten good enough so that europes "most winningest player" doesn't feel comfortable enough against him to win 11 out of 14-16 games vs him (no idea if that's BoX or not)
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BM people is a good skill toi have
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meanwhile, rumour about Morrow is desperate to be some winner of a slightly bigger prize pool tourney by considering a match fixing. i wonder if that rumour has anything to do with idra lol
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On December 22 2010 21:52 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, rumour about Morrow is desperate to be some winner of a slightly bigger prize pool tourney by considering a match fixing. i wonder if that rumour has anything to do with idra lol
Stop talking nonsense. Like he would care what IdrA says anyway... and it was to get a computer, has nothing to with IdrA.
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My first post in the group even though I've been following IdrA since the good ol' vs Octzerg days 
IdrA is a baller.
Sign me up for this!
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On December 22 2010 18:21 Grebliv wrote:
The amount of hate morrow gets astounds me.
If I wanted to discuss a hypocrite, a "professional" with a terrible history of treating casters (think of what he and BigT did several times... great for Esports, right?), cheating and relying on all-ins and cheese to win, I would have started Morrow's fanclub. But I didn't, so get out of Idra's thread. Thanks
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I want to say thanks for introducing me to NiT GriT
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On December 23 2010 00:37 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 18:21 Grebliv wrote:
The amount of hate morrow gets astounds me.
If I wanted to discuss a hypocrite, a "professional" with a terrible history of treating casters (think of what he and BigT did several times... great for Esports, right?), cheating and relying on all-ins and cheese to win, I would have started Morrow's fanclub. But I didn't, so get out of Idra's thread. Thanks
Wait a minute, when did Morrow ever cheat? And I thought he was considered a macro Terran, not cheeser, all-inner?
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Can someone please answer this question: why does idra seem to always be unprepared for / lose to "cheese" builds?
Not being a troll here. Just a simple, legit question after seeing the past 3 seasons of GSL.
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On December 23 2010 03:19 DuckSausage wrote:
Can someone please answer this question: why does idra seem to always be unprepared for / lose to "cheese" builds?
Not being a troll here. Just a simple, legit question after seeing the past 3 seasons of GSL.
Cheese builds are % based
So if a cheese has a 25% chance of working or not being scouted, thats a 1/4 x 1/4 = 1/16 chance that you will 2-0 your opponent with that cheese regardless if it's idra or MC or NesTea or Flash
IdrA gets cheesed a LOT, so obviously what he loses to the most will be those people who roll a lucky dice with their cheeses..
One match in the GSL, for example, was Idra sending out his overlord scout, and missing a proxy barracks outside his base by like .5 an inch. Bad luck, that has nothing to do with skill.
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Can someone please answer this question: why does idra seem to always be unprepared for / lose to "cheese" builds?
refered 2 him.. it might seem he looses often 2 cheeses .. but this is becouse he get cheesed more then others^^..
btw ... this threat gets awful.. only BM discusions ..
idra is a great player, i like his style and the way he looks at competition ... u cant be good if have no problem with loosing ^^..F*** those BM & morrow vs Idra discusions.. their only hyped from some reality shows watching kiddies..
he does a lot for the comunity..not only provides he great tournament games for you to watch ... he streams ... gives lot of interviews .. even pro tipps..
150$ for an hour practice with him? .. yeah but he likes to earn his money .. he doesnt even take donations ..
add me to the fan list plz ..
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On December 23 2010 03:19 DuckSausage wrote:
Can someone please answer this question: why does idra seem to always be unprepared for / lose to "cheese" builds?
Not being a troll here. Just a simple, legit question after seeing the past 3 seasons of GSL.
The nature of zerg mechanics dictates that they need to know ahead of time when an attack is coming and what unit composition it is comprised of, or they will fall behind in macro. This is because their army production comes from the same place as their economy/drone production (larvae).
Given zerg's arguably lacklustre scouting techniques during the early-mid game area, it is very easy for a player to come up with a relatively 'unscoutable' force and attack when the zerg player had no idea it was coming. This effect is amplified when the attacking player cuts economy production and goes "all-in" with the attack, as he will have spent even more than normal on improving his attack force.
An excellent example of this is Haypro's loss on scrap station in the GSL. The terran came out of nowhere with a 1 base play that hadn't really been seen before. Zerg is intrinsically vulnerable to these types of attacks.
When he loses to bunker rushes, however, I think its because he's trying to find the perfect balance between not falling behind in economy by over preparing for the bunker and not getting destroyed by the bunker. This can be very hard given the varying degrees to which the terran can commit to the bunker rush (aka, how many scv's he brings, how many barracks he makes, etc). It is very very very difficult to perfectly match your defense of the bunker rush to the amount of offense coming from the terran. If you over compensate, you will be behind going into the midgame. If you under compensate, you lose.
I would expect IdrA's losses to be only coming from macro games against very good opponents once the game is better balanced for zerg (assuming blizzard wants to have the game less one base oriented).
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