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On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers.
"Realizing" its his fan club is no excuse for not reading and abiding by the giant headline at the top of the page.
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On August 21 2011 09:20 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers. I'm sure we are all thankful you took the time to write what has been said in every fucking chat, every time Idra loses, but I think I speak for everyone when I say: Go play with unicorns and butterflies.
Fixed that for you... insults are generally not permitted 
But yeah. The quality of a post isn't always proportional to its length.
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On August 21 2011 09:12 Jaxtyk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:09 Tamotab wrote:On August 21 2011 08:58 Xaeldaren wrote:Can we have the old IdrA back? The one who trounced MVP and made it look easy?  I miss the scary as shit IdrA; the one who entered practically any tournament and won it with ease. I know this is the IdrA fan club, but I don't remind idra winning "practically any tournament" he entered. Idra was always one of the top NA player, no doubt about that, be he never was a "foreigner Bonjwa". He was a Code S player before he came back to the U.S
So was Jinro (and TLO would have been awarded a place in code S if he has stayed).
Don't take me wrong, I think IdrA is a very strong player and i hope he will do good in Korea and join HuK in code S. But I don't think he was THE very best before (and he is certainly not "bad" now).
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On August 21 2011 09:06 MrDudeMan wrote:I only caught the last 2 games of the series, so can anyone explain to me what the incident with the broken bunker placement is about. Also the last game was alright, I'm glad he stuck in it even if he lost. I think the reason he went for the engagement there was because if he didn't heart would have been in a great position to take out idras 3rd. Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:05 NoobSh1t wrote:
idrA just doesn't stop disappointing. He's just not very good anymore. The top EU zergs (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Dimaga) are definitely better than him now imo. And yes I am a huge idrA fanboy. Going to stop watching his games until he goes back to Korea. ?? He went 2-3 against a korean terran and he just isnt good anymore? Ret plays the exact same style of ZvT as idra (probably same style of zvp and zvz as well), and didn't nerchio get destroyed by puma in IEM?
IdrA's play was uninspired and the "Korean Terran" in question is a Code B TSL Terran. Remember, IdrA took 3rd at the NA B.Net Invitational... he needs to get back to Korea ASAP; anyone who thinks he's in top form right now is kidding themselves.
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I kinda enjoy watching it be the end of the world every time IdrA loses. My favorite are the non-US posters who are so quick to want to replace him as top foreign Zerg with a European. It's never just one or two, it's always like 4-5. Have even seen someone say Morrow is better than IdrA. Mad love to Ret though, he's completely deserving of mention as top foreign Zerg, the rest are pretty much online cup heroes "imo".
Just gotta roll with the punches.
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On August 21 2011 09:21 TUski wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:20 Aocowns wrote:On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers. I'm sure we are all thankful you took the time to write what has been said in every fucking chat, every time Idra loses, but I think I speak for everyone when I say: Go play with unicorns and butterflies. Fixed that for you... insults are generally not permitted But yeah. The quality of a post isn't always proportional to its length.
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On August 21 2011 09:11 taLbuk wrote:
I just wish IdrA stuck to Terran for starcraft 2, the race is just so much more well-rounded and rewards decision making way more than Zerg.
If you look at BW IdrA or even Ro8 GSL IdrA, he wouldn't be losing to 90% of the people he loses to now, especially if he had stuck with Terran.
One could only wish.
I am having problem seeing idra as terran. All his games is straight up macro and one big clash and one goes out as a winner and if its not him the other race is op. And as a terran you are slowly wearing down opponents with alot of diffrent harras methods and not just solid macro....just my toughts.
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On August 21 2011 09:20 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers. I'm sure we are all thankful you took the time to write what has been said in every fucking chat, every time Idra loses, but I think I speak for everyone when I say: Go fuck yourself
Yeah, yeah. You know what? I follow Manchester United and our players are a granny shagger, a guy who can't keep his dick in his pants, two Brazilian 12 year olds, a ginger cunt, Rio "Twit" Ferdinand, the dirty Serb, that cunt with the mustache that's on the TV and the Midfield Crab.
Compared to the criticism I good naturedly weather in every discussion about the team I spend 40 quid at a time to go and see every week or two a few miles down the road, I think I can quite happily state that if you genuinely meant that, you should probably seek some kind of help.
"Realizing" its his fan club is no excuse for not reading and abiding by the giant headline at the top of the page.
The headline reads "post whatever you like, but if it causes a giant furore, expect to be banned." I think I was relatively good natured in my critique. I'd like to see him do better, but he keeps doing this IdrAism thing and it's a shame. If he worked on his attitude, he'd be a vastly better player than he already is.
I'm saying is a shame.
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On August 21 2011 09:24 TissTuss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:11 taLbuk wrote:
I just wish IdrA stuck to Terran for starcraft 2, the race is just so much more well-rounded and rewards decision making way more than Zerg.
If you look at BW IdrA or even Ro8 GSL IdrA, he wouldn't be losing to 90% of the people he loses to now, especially if he had stuck with Terran.
One could only wish. I am having problem seeing idra as terran. All his games is straight up macro and one big clash and one goes out as a winner and if its not him the other race is op. And as a terran you are slowly wearing down opponents with alot of diffrent harras methods and not just solid macro....just my toughts.
I suppose you're right but being a macro player zerg is far more volatile than terran to early game pressure, I'm not saying he would do dramatically better with terran, but that he wouldn't lose to players who simply aren't as good and are looking for an early/ mid game timing win.
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On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers.
Where does this misconception that Idra goes on tilt? If I showed you 10 IdrA games in random series, with all of them losses, can you and your all seeing eye tell me which one is when he is down 1-0 having lost to cheese, and which ones are the games whee he is up 1-0 in the series. I sure as bet you can't so please can you get out of his fan club where people support an amazing Zerg player. How about you look at yourself? Do you have over a thousand pages of fan messages? No I don't think so. Idra doesn't have a collapse, he doesn't tilt unless you see him 6 pooling. Half the fun of watching Idra play is predicting how he will dismantle his opponent with superior multitasking, macro, micro and amazing play.
Also, Idra would have been an amazing Terran. His mm control in sc1 was beautiful in TvZ, and his macro was the best too. I can only imagine what he could have done with marines and medivacs as well as ghosts with emp and splitting. His mouse control is very very good.
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On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers.
So so wrong. You obviously didnt compete in anything close to a contact sport or heard trashtalk in pro games. Saying fuck you is nothing in pro sports. Maybe in chess someone might take it personally, but most of the time it's trashtalk during the game and that's it. I'm not trying to compare that to the SC environment, but in traditional sports trashtalk is everywhere. And about him not being good anymore...he's averaging a top 8 finish ever since leaving korea and playing in MLGs with koreans. Hardly a bad thing.
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On August 21 2011 09:28 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers. So so wrong. You obviously didnt compete in anything close to a contact sport or heard trashtalk in pro games. Saying fuck you is nothing in pro sports. Maybe in chess someone might take it personally, but most of the time it's trashtalk during the game and that's it. I'm not trying to compare that to the SC environment, but in traditional sports trashtalk is everywhere. And about him not being good anymore...he's averaging a top 8 finish ever since leaving korea and playing in MLGs with koreans. Hardly a bad thing.
He claims he watches football and follows man U. He must be wondering whether Wayne Rooney has any teeth left after all that bm. He doesn't have a clue and should leave the thread.
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On August 21 2011 09:25 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:20 Aocowns wrote:On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
I realize this is his fan club, but IdrA isn't "polarizing". Everyone likes to see skilled zerg play and IdrA is a pretty good one. Not the best, but he's pretty good. However, he couples his obvious skill with the game with the kind of manners that would get his teeth knocked out in most sports, and in all honesty, he isn't good enough any more to get away with his manners.
He rage quits from games he can't win, goes on tilt at the slightest provocation and when he can't win, slags either his cheesy opponent off or the game off. IdrA on tilt is like watching a car crash in slow motion, stretched out over 3-5 games, to the point where the result is a game so mismatched you wonder how he even got that far in a tournament.
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney. I can't help but think that if he married his obvious skills with a better attitude, both to his opponent and to the fact that he's losing a game, he'd be far more capable of holding down tournaments and ultimately the respect of fans and players and stream watchers. I'm sure we are all thankful you took the time to write what has been said in every fucking chat, every time Idra loses, but I think I speak for everyone when I say: Go fuck yourself Yeah, yeah. You know what? I follow Manchester United and our players are a granny shagger, a guy who can't keep his dick in his pants, two Brazilian 12 year olds, a ginger cunt, Rio "Twit" Ferdinand, the dirty Serb, that cunt with the mustache that's on the TV and the Midfield Crab. Compared to the criticism I good naturedly weather in every discussion about the team I spend 40 quid at a time to go and see every week or two a few miles down the road, I think I can quite happily state that if you genuinely meant that, you should probably seek some kind of help. Show nested quote +"Realizing" its his fan club is no excuse for not reading and abiding by the giant headline at the top of the page. The headline reads "post whatever you like, but if it causes a giant furore, expect to be banned." I think I was relatively good natured in my critique. I'd like to see him do better, but he keeps doing this IdrAism thing and it's a shame. If he worked on his attitude, he'd be a vastly better player than he already is. I'm saying is a shame.
Seriously... at the very beginning of your first post you say that you realize that it's a fan club just to start flaming like hell, why don't you just use the LT thread...
On August 21 2011 09:17 Evangelist wrote:
Half the fun of watching IdrA is predicting his next hilarious collapse. The list of players capable of inducing an Idrocalypse is expanding with each tourney.
And how is that being good-natured? In my eyes thats just insulting
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I'm not trying to start a row, I just wondered if people felt the same. That kind of discussion on most football forums wouldn't even have people blinking. Nevermind. I'll delete it so as not to cause any further discussion. I don't want to get banned for offering an opinion.
And how is that being good-natured? In my eyes thats just insulting
Of course it's being good natured. I enjoy watching IdrA when he's doing well but I have to admit, some of the enjoyment does come with watching his collapses. Is that wrong? Anyway, like I said, I didn't want to cause a row.
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On August 21 2011 09:34 Evangelist wrote:
I'm not trying to start a row, I just wondered if people felt the same. That kind of discussion on most football forums wouldn't even have people blinking. Nevermind. I'll delete it so as not to cause any further discussion. I don't want to get banned for offering an opinion.
And now you don't even have the balls to stick with it... well played sir, well played
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On August 21 2011 09:22 Snaphoo wrote:
IdrA's play was uninspired and the "Korean Terran" in question is a Code B TSL Terran. Remember, IdrA took 3rd at the NA B.Net Invitational... he needs to get back to Korea ASAP; anyone who thinks he's in top form right now is kidding themselves.
Puma is a Code B Former TSL Terran, I doubt switching to EG has boosted his performance yet. And I am not saying he is in top form (or anywhere near top form for him), but saying he is not good because he lost 2-3 is a joke, not to mention following it up with someone who just got destroyed in a ZvT.
On August 21 2011 09:34 Evangelist wrote:
I'm not trying to start a row, I just wondered if people felt the same. That kind of discussion on most football forums wouldn't even have people blinking. Nevermind. I'll delete it so as not to cause any further discussion. I don't want to get banned for offering an opinion.
It is a fanclub, it should be pretty obvious that not all opinions are welcomed. Its the equivalent of going to a football match and then preaching to the audience that football is just not as good as it used to be.
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On August 21 2011 09:34 Evangelist wrote:
I'm not trying to start a row, I just wondered if people felt the same. That kind of discussion on most football forums wouldn't even have people blinking. Nevermind. I'll delete it so as not to cause any further discussion. I don't want to get banned for offering an opinion.
You were wondering if people felt the same... in his god damn fanclub.... You can go to the chat of the tourny. the LR thread. But you went to derp around in Idra's fanclub, wondering if people felt the same as you..Then you pussy out
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On August 21 2011 09:25 taLbuk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:24 TissTuss wrote:On August 21 2011 09:11 taLbuk wrote:
I just wish IdrA stuck to Terran for starcraft 2, the race is just so much more well-rounded and rewards decision making way more than Zerg.
If you look at BW IdrA or even Ro8 GSL IdrA, he wouldn't be losing to 90% of the people he loses to now, especially if he had stuck with Terran.
One could only wish. I am having problem seeing idra as terran. All his games is straight up macro and one big clash and one goes out as a winner and if its not him the other race is op. And as a terran you are slowly wearing down opponents with alot of diffrent harras methods and not just solid macro....just my toughts. I suppose you're right but being a macro player zerg is far more volatile than terran to early game pressure, I'm not saying he would do dramatically better with terran, but that he wouldn't lose to players who simply aren't as good and are looking for an early/ mid game timing win.
Maybe. But I dont think it would do much diffrance. Its not like u stop losing to players thats worse than you just because you play this perticular race. I think very few would agree that it works that way.
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On August 21 2011 09:39 TissTuss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 09:25 taLbuk wrote:On August 21 2011 09:24 TissTuss wrote:On August 21 2011 09:11 taLbuk wrote:
I just wish IdrA stuck to Terran for starcraft 2, the race is just so much more well-rounded and rewards decision making way more than Zerg.
If you look at BW IdrA or even Ro8 GSL IdrA, he wouldn't be losing to 90% of the people he loses to now, especially if he had stuck with Terran.
One could only wish. I am having problem seeing idra as terran. All his games is straight up macro and one big clash and one goes out as a winner and if its not him the other race is op. And as a terran you are slowly wearing down opponents with alot of diffrent harras methods and not just solid macro....just my toughts. I suppose you're right but being a macro player zerg is far more volatile than terran to early game pressure, I'm not saying he would do dramatically better with terran, but that he wouldn't lose to players who simply aren't as good and are looking for an early/ mid game timing win. Maybe. But I dont think it would do much diffrance. Its not like u stop losing to players thats worse than you just because you play this perticular race. I think very few would agree that it works that way.
Terran IS more safe against early/midgame aggresion and such though. I think he already stated that he didnt like SC2 terran?
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Thanks for removing it, Evangelist. Like taLbuk, Aocowns and others have said, this is not the thread for this discussion. Fan club threads exist to raise enthusiasm about players, not cut them down.
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