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UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 17:06:29
October 19 2010 17:04 GMT
#17761
I must say that I absolutely despise Rainbow and I'll probably never be a fan but their new song is actually quite decent.

The rap part is a no no.

Why do Koreans always find a way to somehow put in a rap part and make it sound terribad

i be that pretty motherfucker
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 17:21:02
October 19 2010 17:17 GMT
#17762
Hope the music isn't as bad as the covers for SNSD


Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 19 2010 17:20 GMT
#17763
On October 20 2010 02:04 UrASofty wrote:
I must say that I absolutely despise Rainbow and I'll probably never be a fan but their new song is actually quite decent.

The rap part is a no no.

Why do Koreans always find a way to somehow put in a rap part and make it sound terribad
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9Sr49VrGU&feature=player_embedded

It sounds... bland.
There's nothing catchy or interesting or cute about it, it just exists.
HOLY CHECK!
silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
October 19 2010 17:37 GMT
#17764
On October 20 2010 02:20 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 02:04 UrASofty wrote:
I must say that I absolutely despise Rainbow and I'll probably never be a fan but their new song is actually quite decent.

The rap part is a no no.

Why do Koreans always find a way to somehow put in a rap part and make it sound terribad
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9Sr49VrGU&feature=player_embedded

It sounds... bland.
There's nothing catchy or interesting or cute about it, it just exists.

That and whoever did the sound mastering needs to get kicked in the teeth. Practically everything is center channel. No vocal/instrumental separation, hell -- not even separation between the instruments really. Can't distinguish anything. That and "lol hurr hurr whats dynamic range"
PhotographerChicken and waffles is the one true food of ESPORTS | Twitter: @silverfire
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
October 19 2010 18:03 GMT
#17765
Oh god what did they do to taeyeon!!
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 19 2010 19:21 GMT
#17766
On October 20 2010 03:03 Tekin wrote:
Oh god what did they do to taeyeon!!

i know huh.... god, is that even her?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 19:26:23
October 19 2010 19:25 GMT
#17767
On October 20 2010 02:37 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 02:20 Lonyo wrote:
On October 20 2010 02:04 UrASofty wrote:
I must say that I absolutely despise Rainbow and I'll probably never be a fan but their new song is actually quite decent.

The rap part is a no no.

Why do Koreans always find a way to somehow put in a rap part and make it sound terribad
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9Sr49VrGU&feature=player_embedded

It sounds... bland.
There's nothing catchy or interesting or cute about it, it just exists.

That and whoever did the sound mastering needs to get kicked in the teeth. Practically everything is center channel. No vocal/instrumental separation, hell -- not even separation between the instruments really. Can't distinguish anything. That and "lol hurr hurr whats dynamic range"



Actually, you mix down to stereo, so there is just a left and right, trying to separate them with pan wouldn't of fixed it. The engineer really squashed the envelope pretty fierce. Although that is not uncommon with pop and rock to compress the hell out of it(its how you get that nice tight sound) They went a bit overboard : x
12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
Mikami_
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Estonia274 Posts
October 19 2010 19:44 GMT
#17768
On October 19 2010 18:35 EscapingJail wrote:


New Co-ed song pretttty good.

Just released like an hour or so ago.


yeah this song is addictive

oniontaker
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom128 Posts
October 19 2010 19:50 GMT
#17769
^ Eunjung's the best part of the song
oniontaker.com || Translator for SlayerS
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
October 19 2010 19:54 GMT
#17770
where is eunjung
You can't fight the feeling.
silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
October 19 2010 20:39 GMT
#17771
On October 20 2010 04:25 Belgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 02:37 silverfire wrote:
On October 20 2010 02:20 Lonyo wrote:
On October 20 2010 02:04 UrASofty wrote:
I must say that I absolutely despise Rainbow and I'll probably never be a fan but their new song is actually quite decent.

The rap part is a no no.

Why do Koreans always find a way to somehow put in a rap part and make it sound terribad
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9Sr49VrGU&feature=player_embedded

It sounds... bland.
There's nothing catchy or interesting or cute about it, it just exists.

That and whoever did the sound mastering needs to get kicked in the teeth. Practically everything is center channel. No vocal/instrumental separation, hell -- not even separation between the instruments really. Can't distinguish anything. That and "lol hurr hurr whats dynamic range"



Actually, you mix down to stereo, so there is just a left and right, trying to separate them with pan wouldn't of fixed it. The engineer really squashed the envelope pretty fierce. Although that is not uncommon with pop and rock to compress the hell out of it(its how you get that nice tight sound) They went a bit overboard : x

I didn't mean that it was actually mono, lol -- just that the lack of real stereo separation really detracts from perceived separation between "voices" whether it's vocals or instrumentals.
PhotographerChicken and waffles is the one true food of ESPORTS | Twitter: @silverfire
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 19 2010 20:49 GMT
#17772
On October 20 2010 04:44 Mikami_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 18:35 EscapingJail wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFuahZD8MAc


New Co-ed song pretttty good.

Just released like an hour or so ago.


yeah this song is addictive



gotta say this isn't half bad. the one ballad is good too
gonna really give em a listen when i get home
Forever Young
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 19 2010 21:08 GMT
#17773
Co-Ed song reminds me slightly of Look Look Look (probably because it also has look repeated).
HOLY CHECK!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
October 19 2010 22:18 GMT
#17774
On October 20 2010 02:04 UrASofty wrote:
I must say that I absolutely despise Rainbow and I'll probably never be a fan but their new song is actually quite decent.

The rap part is a no no.

Why do Koreans always find a way to somehow put in a rap part and make it sound terribad

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9Sr49VrGU&feature=player_embedded

Dun hate on the black girl

On October 20 2010 01:10 Lonyo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

i won't lie, I used to love watching that show when I was a kid lol
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 23:43:49
October 19 2010 23:43 GMT
#17775
On October 20 2010 04:21 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 03:03 Tekin wrote:
Oh god what did they do to taeyeon!!

i know huh.... god, is that even her?

100% sure that cannot be her



edit*unless she went the way sooyoung recently did. in which case i will cry.
Real action, my dream.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
October 20 2010 00:14 GMT
#17776
On October 20 2010 04:44 Mikami_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 18:35 EscapingJail wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFuahZD8MAc

New Co-ed song pretttty good.

Just released like an hour or so ago.


yeah this song is addictive



This is a cheap ripoff of Lady Gaga - Telephone
SushiBoat
Profile Joined July 2010
United States28 Posts
October 20 2010 00:21 GMT
#17777
On October 20 2010 08:43 moose162 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 04:21 NB wrote:
On October 20 2010 03:03 Tekin wrote:
Oh god what did they do to taeyeon!!

i know huh.... god, is that even her?

100% sure that cannot be her



edit*unless she went the way sooyoung recently did. in which case i will cry.


can you elaborate (on sooyoung)? i'm out of the loop, but I'll guess plastic surgery.
silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 00:38:37
October 20 2010 00:37 GMT
#17778
On October 20 2010 09:14 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 04:44 Mikami_ wrote:
On October 19 2010 18:35 EscapingJail wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFuahZD8MAc

New Co-ed song pretttty good.

Just released like an hour or so ago.


yeah this song is addictive



This is a cheap ripoff of Lady Gaga - Telephone


Relevant:

Copypasta from one of the few intelligent comments I ever see on allkpop
Dicetrain - October 19, 2010 at 4:04 PM | #317 | Edit Love or Hate: +20
@309 You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
Grab a guitar, set Capo 1. Play Em, G, Am7, Em7. That is the entirety of Telephone.
Now set Capo 2, play Em, G, D/F#, Am. That is Bbbiribom Bberibbom.
So you see here from the capo settings that there is a direct key difference you aren’t picking up on. Then, the first two chords are the same, but the last two are different. So you didn’t catch the general chord progression.
Beyond this, the reason the last two are different is because the focus of the melodies actually ride on the chords differently.
The focus of telephone goes F, full step down to D# way up to A# then way down to F on the next octave down.
The focus of Bbbiribom Bberibbom goes F# one and a half steps up to A way down to E on the next octave down, then up to A# on the next octave up.
So if you were playing on piano your hands would actually move in opposite directions when you play the two songs. This is without even touching the way the rhythms and harmonies are much different.
Please don’t act like you know what you’re talking about when you’re just guessing based on poor discernment and untrained ears.
PhotographerChicken and waffles is the one true food of ESPORTS | Twitter: @silverfire
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 20 2010 00:44 GMT
#17779
On October 20 2010 09:21 SushiBoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 08:43 moose162 wrote:
On October 20 2010 04:21 NB wrote:
On October 20 2010 03:03 Tekin wrote:
Oh god what did they do to taeyeon!!

i know huh.... god, is that even her?

100% sure that cannot be her



edit*unless she went the way sooyoung recently did. in which case i will cry.


can you elaborate (on sooyoung)? i'm out of the loop, but I'll guess plastic surgery.

Sooyoung was said to have gotten it, but I didn't really notice since she doesn't do anything anyway. Tiffany definitely got some; that one emcee of inkigayo her face was still swollen and she couldn't even smile and she looks completely different.
twitch.tv/cratonz
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
October 20 2010 00:46 GMT
#17780
On October 20 2010 09:37 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 09:14 kakaman wrote:
On October 20 2010 04:44 Mikami_ wrote:
On October 19 2010 18:35 EscapingJail wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFuahZD8MAc

New Co-ed song pretttty good.

Just released like an hour or so ago.


yeah this song is addictive



This is a cheap ripoff of Lady Gaga - Telephone


Relevant:

Show nested quote +
Copypasta from one of the few intelligent comments I ever see on allkpop
Dicetrain - October 19, 2010 at 4:04 PM | #317 | Edit Love or Hate: +20
@309 You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
Grab a guitar, set Capo 1. Play Em, G, Am7, Em7. That is the entirety of Telephone.
Now set Capo 2, play Em, G, D/F#, Am. That is Bbbiribom Bberibbom.
So you see here from the capo settings that there is a direct key difference you aren’t picking up on. Then, the first two chords are the same, but the last two are different. So you didn’t catch the general chord progression.
Beyond this, the reason the last two are different is because the focus of the melodies actually ride on the chords differently.
The focus of telephone goes F, full step down to D# way up to A# then way down to F on the next octave down.
The focus of Bbbiribom Bberibbom goes F# one and a half steps up to A way down to E on the next octave down, then up to A# on the next octave up.
So if you were playing on piano your hands would actually move in opposite directions when you play the two songs. This is without even touching the way the rhythms and harmonies are much different.
Please don’t act like you know what you’re talking about when you’re just guessing based on poor discernment and untrained ears.


pshh, I didn't say it was plagiarism, I said it was a cheap knockoff. Obviously if this was brought up before, then I'm not the only one who thinks this
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