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Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
August 02 2012 06:27 GMT
#68401
I did rosetta stone, found it to be pretty bad. I did it before learning other stuff like Hangul though.
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 06:35:26
August 02 2012 06:29 GMT
#68402
How the crap do you spell words in korean? It's like the hardest thing for me. I can read 100%. Comprehend ~50%. And spell ~10% of the words I can comprehend lol (on a site like naver)

Anyway, time to learn korean forreal. thx kmd
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
nichlion
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
August 02 2012 06:37 GMT
#68403
I've learned how to read it a couple of times but I keep forgetting it. You'll need to find a way to practice it daily and immerse yourself in it. Like how Moon kept chatting up with the Kwangdong Pharmacy on Twitter.

Also, anyone want some Soojung buing buing?

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nichlion@twitter | kpopidols@tumblr | S♥NE | Running Man | Tiffany | Hwayoung | Lime | Krystal | IU | Chorong | Jisook | Soyul | ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28094 Posts
August 02 2012 06:40 GMT
#68404
I am starting to learn korean as well. I already know a couple hundred words through variety shows/dramas/kpop, which gives me some comfort in understanding the basics. Thank you guys for the site recommendations. They look very helpful.
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 02 2012 06:44 GMT
#68405
On August 02 2012 14:28 Skamtet wrote:
i really like brown eyed girls they are the best


You have excellent taste. They are, after all, the best kpop has to offer. Son Ga-In particularly.
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
August 02 2012 06:44 GMT
#68406
On August 02 2012 15:37 nichlion wrote:
I've learned how to read it a couple of times but I keep forgetting it. You'll need to find a way to practice it daily and immerse yourself in it. Like how Moon kept chatting up with the Kwangdong Pharmacy on Twitter.

Also, anyone want some Soojung buing buing?

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When I saw gif heavy, I was kind of excited. Then there are only 9. Maybe my expectations have gotten too high because of this thread.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28094 Posts
August 02 2012 06:55 GMT
#68407
On August 02 2012 15:44 StorkHwaiting wrote:
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On August 02 2012 14:28 Skamtet wrote:
i really like brown eyed girls they are the best


You have excellent taste. They are, after all, the best kpop has to offer. Son Ga-In particularly.

I just started getting in to BEG and I would have to agree that Ga-In is amazing.
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Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 02 2012 06:59 GMT
#68408
On August 02 2012 15:37 nichlion wrote:
I've learned how to read it a couple of times but I keep forgetting it. You'll need to find a way to practice it daily and immerse yourself in it. Like how Moon kept chatting up with the Kwangdong Pharmacy on Twitter.

Also, anyone want some Soojung buing buing?

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Kwangdong noona is the best
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Tazerenix
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia340 Posts
August 02 2012 07:16 GMT
#68409
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Not sure who I'm more jealous of in this picture.
nichlion
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
August 02 2012 07:54 GMT
#68410
Some Rainbow Pixie gifs before bed.

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That last Jisook gif, so OP.

Source (his channel has a lot more):

nichlion@twitter | kpopidols@tumblr | S♥NE | Running Man | Tiffany | Hwayoung | Lime | Krystal | IU | Chorong | Jisook | Soyul | ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 08:00:56
August 02 2012 07:59 GMT
#68411
On August 02 2012 10:10 rave[wcr] wrote:
http://www.allkpop.com/2012/04/op-ed-is-t-aras-member-change-a-way-for-kim-kwang-soo-to-punish-t-ara

really interesting article on how overworked t-ara really is. i hope those of you who judge t-ara harshly keep this in mind


I really liked the video in it. Showing the full scenes for some of those bullying incidents. Especially the "kowai" thing was funny :D

On August 02 2012 15:29 billy5000 wrote:
How the crap do you spell words in korean? It's like the hardest thing for me. I can read 100%. Comprehend ~50%. And spell ~10% of the words I can comprehend lol (on a site like naver)

Anyway, time to learn korean forreal. thx kmd


Just learn it, like in every other language. It's not that there are irregular spellings in English.


On August 02 2012 15:40 TheEmulator wrote:
I am starting to learn korean as well. I already know a couple hundred words through variety shows/dramas/kpop, which gives me some comfort in understanding the basics. Thank you guys for the site recommendations. They look very helpful.


Check out: TL Learn Korean Thread it has some more talk about recommendations of websites, books, ...
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
August 02 2012 08:22 GMT
#68412
That last video where they struggle to stay awake. I haven't seen anyone that tired since last I played Twilight Imperium for 14 hours.
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
August 02 2012 08:30 GMT
#68413
I decided to run a Gangnam style search through the social media monitoring tool that I work for and results were pretty interesting.

I found out it was in 3 newspapers from The Netherlands, it's been played on both TV and Radio. Tweeted by several Radio MCs and it was more popular than any other K-pop related search term I could come up with. Funny stuff
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
August 02 2012 08:33 GMT
#68414
On August 02 2012 15:29 billy5000 wrote:
How the crap do you spell words in korean? It's like the hardest thing for me. I can read 100%. Comprehend ~50%. And spell ~10% of the words I can comprehend lol (on a site like naver)

Anyway, time to learn korean forreal. thx kmd

I don't think it's hard. Only difficulty is to distinguish ㅗ & ㅓ, ㅂ & ㅍ and ㅔ & ㅐ. Otherwise pretty simple.
유리 | 티파니 | 리지
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
August 02 2012 08:40 GMT
#68415
On August 02 2012 17:30 Kaiwa wrote:
I decided to run a Gangnam style search through the social media monitoring tool that I work for and results were pretty interesting.

I found out it was in 3 newspapers from The Netherlands, it's been played on both TV and Radio. Tweeted by several Radio MCs and it was more popular than any other K-pop related search term I could come up with. Funny stuff


Its getting pretty popular in the dota scene aswell..every streamer i know have played it at some point, seen alot of people talking about it in dota irc channels.
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
August 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#68416
How is everyone typing Hangul symbols? Surely you don't have a Hangul keyboard?
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
klibrt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States533 Posts
August 02 2012 08:51 GMT
#68417
Install the Korean language pack... pretty easy.
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
August 02 2012 08:58 GMT
#68418
I confirm TTMIK is a really good site. I started with 0 Korean knowledge (except for a site where I learned Hangul in 30 mins/1 hour) and, even though I am not a good student about it and used it really rarely, I soon could understand a lot of things said in dramas and write complete(ish) sentences.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
August 02 2012 09:02 GMT
#68419
On August 02 2012 17:33 Mayd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 15:29 billy5000 wrote:
How the crap do you spell words in korean? It's like the hardest thing for me. I can read 100%. Comprehend ~50%. And spell ~10% of the words I can comprehend lol (on a site like naver)

Anyway, time to learn korean forreal. thx kmd

I don't think it's hard. Only difficulty is to distinguish ㅗ & ㅓ, ㅂ & ㅍ and ㅔ & ㅐ. Otherwise pretty simple.


I meant the ones where there are two bottom symbols, where the last one carries over to the second character. It's hard to tell whether there are indeed two bottom symbols or not. Things like that. Those are pretty confusing to spell when you just hear them. But I'm probably making up ignorant excuses. Hopefully it gets easier as I progress.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 02 2012 09:04 GMT
#68420
So in conclusion to the event that brought us the most entertainment so far this year (and might I say for the last 2 years), a bunch of smaller news articles came out that nobody cares about as there's significantly less shit flying everywhere.

Some of these may be rehashes, some of these may be new. I'm posting the rehashes because akp only selectively translated from nate and ignored other parts.
Anyhow, reposted from Diadem, spoilers again for those of you who don't have accounts.

[12.07.31] T-ara's Eunjung, "Thank you.. and I'm sorry"
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T-ara's Eunjung has left a heartfelt message.

On the 30th, Eunjung left a message on her official fansite "EunChanNet" that said "Thank you very much.. I'm sorry."

Since Hwayoung's contract with T-ara was terminated, this is the first statement from any of the others members of T-ara.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120731n31334
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem


[12.08.01] Gangnam Police Department, "Cybercrime search team will look into the false 'T-ara Dancer' article"
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After discussions with lawyers, T-ara's agency CCM at 5:30pm on July 31st formally requested the Seoul Gagnam Police Department Cybercrime Search Team to look into the malicious and false article made by a netizen claiming to be T-ara's backup dancer.

Relevant persons at the police stated that matter has been referred to the Cybercrime Search Team and that the team is currently analyzing the material after having received the request from CCM.

The subject of the search is a netizen who posed as a dancer for T-ara and had written "Jiyeon slapped Hwayoung in the dance practice studio," "The members play rock, paper, scissors in front of Hwayoung because they do not want to sit next to her in the car".

However, CCM decided not to prosecute another netizen claiming to be a CCM trainee who was hit by Jiyeon because the teenaged schoolboy living in Anyang, Gyeonggi had already voluntarily admitted that he was the one who wrote the false article and had contacted CCM to ask for forgiveness.

CCM stated to Star News, "We had wanted to hand the matter over to the police this morning, but decided to discuss the matter with lawyers for a more definite opinion. After discussions with the lawyer, we then formally requested the police to look into the false and malicious post made by the netizen."

Because CCM is located in the Gangnam area, the Gangnam Police Department was commissioned, and not the Seocho Police Department.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120731n28167
Translated by: kkyc222 @ Diadem (via Chinese Translations)


[12.08.01] Over dramatic? "T-ara and Hwayoung both shed tears last night"
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Hwayoung and T-ara cry. Meeting each other every day, but today was different.

According to Core Contents Media, last night on July 31st, Hwayoung and her twin sister Hyoyoung came to Core Contents Media's office is Gangnam, Seoul to meet with Kim Kwangsoo.

Through a phone interview with Star News in the morning, Kim Kwangsoo admitted to meeting with Hwayoung and Hyoyoung.

He said, "I was surprised that Hwayoung came to the company last night, but we have already talked. After apologizing to the other members, staff, and fans and apologizing for breaking her promise and reflecting on her actions, Hwayoung burst in tears."

Followed by, "It broke my heart seeing Hwayoung cry. Seeing Hwayoung cry, I realized her heart has not had a break [from aching]."

CEO Kwangsoo said he first met with the T-ara members before Hwayoung came to the office. "The T-ara members also are saddened and shed tears over this incident," he said.

"The writings T-ara and Hwayoung wrote on Twitter without any meaning behind them have all caused a ripple effect. I talked frankly to all of them yesterday, and each of them shed tears," he also said.

"I hope the fans can give their love and keep watching T-ara and Hwayoung rather than posts on the Internet."

Kim Kwangsoo terminated Hwayoung's contract, but then quickly said there was a possibility to re-join.

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Source: http://media.daum.ne...120801093712273
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem


[12.08.01] An industry insider says, "Hwayoung was crying outside T-ara's waiting room unable to enter"
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An industry insider is claiming that Core Contents Media's claim that Hwayoung "acted like a top star" and "threw her crutches in a fit" are not 100% true.

According to a report made by OBS on the 31st, is is true that Hwayoung threw her crutches while at KBS 2TV's "Music Bank". But before she did that, she was seen crying outside the group's waiting room and was unable to even enter the waiting room.

The music industry said, "CEO Kim Kwangsoo's reports on the situation is a bit different from the real situation. All before Hwayoung threw down her crutches and refused to perform, she was crying. She wasn't even crying in her waiting room, but in the hallway outside the waiting room at the broadcast station because she was unable to enter the waiting room. I wasn't the only one who witnessed this because other artists and representatives saw this moment too."

The T-ara controversy which originally started on the 27th with a few Tweets gets bigger each day.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120731n13665
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem


[12.08.01] Core Contents Media, "Dani will not join T-ara early"
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Core Contents Media said that there is no plans for Dani to join T-ara early.

Core Contents Media made a press release on the 1st saying, "Online rumors are circulating that Dani will join T-ara earlier than planned, but that is a false rumor."

Following the news that was posted on T-ara's Japanese homepage, rumors circulated that Dani will join T-ara earlier to replace Hwayoung's position.

Core Contents Media also said, "Right now T-ara will promote as a 7-member member group with Areum and be joined by Dani in December."

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120801n12512
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem

here's to hoping she won't join, ever.

[12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"
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T-ara's ex-member Hwayoung met their CEO Kim Kwang-soo on the night of the 31st crying tears full of regret.

"[Hwayoung, with her twin sister] Hyoyoung met with me for 30 minutes and was saying things such as '[She's really] upset and [she's] sorry". That was the first time that I met her since her contract termination was announced. She's been very distressed at how everything have gone insanely out of control. Seeing her like that was also very painful for me," said CEO Kim in an interview he held on August 1st. CEO Kim also continued to say, "For the time being, T-ara will continue their promotional activities without Hwayoung. The T-ara members, just like Hwayoung are all victims in this situation. Having everything happen like this has brought pain to the children's (T-ara and Hwayoung's) hearts. Finally, Hwayoung and Hyoyoung also said that '[They will] be waiting'".

CEO Kim Kwangsoo had a hard time calming down the situation, but now the reconcilation phase is here and attracting attention. Hwayoung met with Kim Kwangsoo at 10:30 PM KST after posting a heartfelt apology on her Twitter.

-Why did the sisters, Hwayoung and Hyoyoung come to meet you?
Hwayoung came to the office late at night to give a last greeting. An hour before, Hwayoung made a post on Twitter. She came with her sister and cried throughout the 30 minutes. 'I'm sorry for giving so many complications,' she said. She sincerely regretted her behavior and everything that happened and couldn't hold back her feelings.

-How is Hwayoung doing?
For someone as young as her to experience an incident this big, of course she's having a difficult time. Yesterday, [when we met] instead of blaming her for bad behaviour, I gave her words of encouragement. T-ara isn't living with each other like they used to but staying with their parents now.

-Hwayoung and the company is currently having conflicts, [how about] Hyoyoung, she's still [with the company]?
I don't want to talk about her at the moment. The only thing that both sisters said to me was "President-nim, we will be waiting. With her sister being in this state, she's not at a position to be able to work on her own activities, anyway.

-How are the T-ara members?
If I say that their current state [is similar] to having a mental breakdown, it'd be pretty accurate. All T-ara members as well as Hwayoung's are all in a panic state. T-ara are very sad over the talk that they made Hwayoung an outcast. They also feel sorry for not protecting their youngest sister well. This teaches them that something small can create a very big wave such as this one. They're continually crying.

-[Hwayoung] being outcast is still being debated over. What is the real reason to Hwayoung's departure?
It's a pity it's still a controversy. Whatever group, social relationships always experience conflict. Bullying between members is not the reason for her withdrawal. It's because of Hwayoung's refusal to perform on KBS 2TV 'Music Bank' on the 27th. Hwayoung had made a promise to fans to perform on stage no matter the situation. There were also many staff members working for her who were hurt by this. As a singer, she broke the promise she made. Such mistakes like that are a big deal.

-Is there a possibility that Hwayoung will be re-joining?
The only thing Hwayoung said was "I will wait." If she comes back so suddenly, it might become a little difficult. There's been a deep wound that's inflicted on both T-ara and Hwayoung. Saying this is difficult because I am feeling just as hurt [seeing all of this unfold].

-T-ara's promotions?
First of all, T-ara will continue their promotions without Hwayoung. The plan for now is to have them remain as a 7-member group. Dani will only be added to T-ara after December as planned initially. It is also mandatory that T-ara proceeds with their concert on August 11th, but they will take a break from variety programs. The report regarding the massive amounts of ticket refunding at the concert is also not true.

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Source : http://news.nate.com.../20120801n09876
Translated by: Elly + nathaniel @ Diadem


[12.08.01] Haeundae Lovers PD, "Soyeon is courteous and works hard"
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"Haeundae Lovers" PD reveals his thoughts on T-ara's Soyeon.

On August 1st, "Haeundae Lovers" had it's press conference at Imperial Palace Hotel and spoke about Soyeon.

Director Song said, "Soyeon is very courteous. She's the youngest amongst her seniors and is trying trying to learn a lot from them. I hope people watch her well. I hope the recent issues going on about her group also will be solved soon."

"Haeundae Lovers" first broadcast is on August 6th.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120801n21343
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem


[12.08.01] Hwayoung and Hyoyoung have a meeting with a new agency
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After Hwayoung's contract being terminated with Core Contents Media, her next move and if she'll join a new agency is being closely watched.

Hwayoung and her sister 5dolls Hyoyoung were revealed to have met with agency officials in Nonhyeon, Seoul.

Hwayoung was removed from her group after "bullying" became a hot topic, but her agency said they will watch for her if she joins a new agency.

Lee Jaehyok is the former Director of Media for Core Contents Media and now owns Maru Planning. He's closely connected with Core Contents Media's CEO Kim Kwangsoo and it's known that this is who Hwayoung and Hyoyoung met with.

However, Maru Planning said today, "There is a very small chance of her signing a contract," dismissing rumors.

T-ara's agency said earlier, "For now, T-ara will remain as a 7-member group."

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120801n31671
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem


[12.08.03] T-ara are victims of reckless reporters
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T-ara are victims of unconfirmed reports in the media.

Recently, the bullying situation began with a few tweets and reports saying Hwayoung was bullied in T-ara. Suspicions that idol groups have bullying in them have been around forever, and didn't just start yesterday. But the recent bullying accusations have exploded and attracted more attention than ever before.

A problem that lies within this is that there is so much interest in the case, that reports are being published in the press just to increase views and clicks on their website which is the wrong attitude.

To confirm the allegations that first began about bullying, netizens went and dug up various things that happened in the past. Excerpts from various different broadcasts were brought up through screen-captures and questioned, but they were not originally a problem when they first aired. The reports spread throughout the media were written without going through a verification process. Reports that were contacting representatives from the broadcasts were also hard to find.

In addition to making screen-captures of various broadcasts, rumors have been circulating about T-ara. False and malicious rumors, such as "gangs" and the like, have been circulating online because of "netizens suspicions," but like the screen-captures, they have not been verified. The "trainee" was proven to be false, and the "back-dancer" report as well, but both spread before any confirmation had been done. Some even have gone far to force evidence and say that Hwayoung left a hidden message, "fans only know," in her Twitter message but the truth is it's different depending on where you look at the image.

Websites gain revenue through clicks on ads on their website, and these reckless and unprofessional reports being spread attract attention and revenue for whoever reports it.

The bullying allegations first started on July 28th through Twitter messages and continued until the 2nd. T-ara related searches dominated every popular search ranking on various portal sites. The Olympics began, but T-ara's scandal has attracted more attention and higher interest. The topic located at the center is that journalists recklessly report things posted online without getting confirmation just for a few more clicks on their website.

Hwayoung recently posted on Twitter, "Please stop now and look forward to when I'll return with a new more mature and sophisticated image." The situation is at a point where it's finally calmed down.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120802n20672
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem


Reminds me of that nam gyuri incident that became the catalyst for seeya to fracture.
I guess the only thing we should take away from all of this is that the only confirmed bully was the public, and to an extent, the media and KKS.
The actual truth is probably somewhere in between the two parties. This mob mentality everyone, not simply encompassed in this thread, displayed was fucking disgusting, but that's probably another discussion for another time.

I'm just glad she's gone for my own selfish reasons. TYBG
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