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ChoboKal
Profile Joined September 2011
United States74 Posts
April 09 2012 01:54 GMT
#53021
Its really fun to get to know the frequent posters in here ^.^ I was always overwhelmed by this thread and its 2600 pages, but thanks to the new thread subscription I can start to follow. But there is still a sense of being a huge nub whenever posting. There is so much history in this thread it is a lot to catch up on lol.

I did want to talk about the new 4 minute song Volume up. As far as I know there have been no live performances, but I was wondering when they do play it live there is a few really high note that are held out by the girl with short hair (sorry for not know her name) but will she be able to sing that live or will they pull an IU and have that pre-recorded like in Good Day's high note. How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?
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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
April 09 2012 01:54 GMT
#53022
Did they decide to copy a page from T-ara for the new 4minute MV? Super fast cuts here we go. Styling not bad but lol at how they're carried vocally.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 01:55:18
April 09 2012 01:54 GMT
#53023
I dunno 4minute seems to do alright. Although that might just be Hyuna carry+ whatever variety shows they're in.

edit- She usually does do the notes alright, but idk if they'll do it here. Not really a fan of her, she seems to think projecting loudly while singing= having a strong voice. It's just loud, not necessarily good.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
April 09 2012 01:55 GMT
#53024
Restraining order waiting to happen. What a bizarre world we live in.

I haven't liked any of the songs 4 minute promoted, but they have had some decentish ost songs.
+ Show Spoiler +

and this annoying one by gayoon in lie to me, but it stuck in my head for months.
+ Show Spoiler +
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:02:18
April 09 2012 02:01 GMT
#53025
On April 09 2012 10:54 ChoboKal wrote:
How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?


Personally, I don't care much, KPop isn't as much singing skills as it is a show. It's the overall package of dancing, singing, looks, personality, etc. That makes KPop stars as well as performances. I mean I have to hear their voices, they can't just full on lip-sync or I'm not watching. But if they sing the verses and lip-sync the chorus while doing a really hard, cool and entertaining dance, I have no problem with that at all.
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Exclamark
Profile Joined August 2010
United States29 Posts
April 09 2012 02:04 GMT
#53026
new 4minute song is fire.
ok
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 09 2012 02:06 GMT
#53027
On April 09 2012 11:01 TuElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:54 ChoboKal wrote:
How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?


Personally, I don't care much, KPop isn't as much singing skills as it is a show. It's the overall package of dancing, singing, looks, personality, etc. That makes KPop stars as well as performances. I mean I have to hear their voices, they can't just full on lip-sync or I'm not watching. But if they sing the verses and lip-sync the chorus while doing a really hard, cool and entertaining dance, I have no problem with that at all.

Touché, it's not like Kpop is about talant in any way, it's a cultural phenomenon with a charm and a unique appeal. You need to see it as a different thing than most other genres.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
April 09 2012 02:16 GMT
#53028
On April 09 2012 09:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:04 TuElite wrote:
She's just so beautiful.

It actually hurts. Like my brain can't properly process these images my eyes are seeing. It's as if a new color was discovered and we didn't know how to see it properly.

I look at pictures of her everyday, as I collect new stuff, edit some, etc., etc. But sometimes like today, I saw this collage someone did of her throughout some of her career and I was just baffled by how beautiful she is.

It's like sometimes I take it for granted how pretty she is, like I'm used to it. But that one picture just hit me harder than the rest for some reason. True magnificence.

You should become a poet


When someone writes that and you write this, that's when you know two creepers have allied rofl.
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ChoboKal
Profile Joined September 2011
United States74 Posts
April 09 2012 02:17 GMT
#53029
On April 09 2012 11:06 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:01 TuElite wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:54 ChoboKal wrote:
How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?


Personally, I don't care much, KPop isn't as much singing skills as it is a show. It's the overall package of dancing, singing, looks, personality, etc. That makes KPop stars as well as performances. I mean I have to hear their voices, they can't just full on lip-sync or I'm not watching. But if they sing the verses and lip-sync the chorus while doing a really hard, cool and entertaining dance, I have no problem with that at all.

Touché, it's not like Kpop is about talant in any way, it's a cultural phenomenon with a charm and a unique appeal. You need to see it as a different thing than most other genres.


I agree with all of this to a certain extent, but with the training process that all of the idols have to go through, wouldn't you think there would be better singers that came through? I think the "group" concept works so well because you can put very specialized people in the group to cover all areas, so should atleast one of them do the hard singing parts? and if not then why not leave the part out? idk maybe this is not such an important thing, but it is music after all.
IMmvp fanboy
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 09 2012 02:18 GMT
#53030
On April 09 2012 11:16 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:04 TuElite wrote:
She's just so beautiful.

It actually hurts. Like my brain can't properly process these images my eyes are seeing. It's as if a new color was discovered and we didn't know how to see it properly.

I look at pictures of her everyday, as I collect new stuff, edit some, etc., etc. But sometimes like today, I saw this collage someone did of her throughout some of her career and I was just baffled by how beautiful she is.

It's like sometimes I take it for granted how pretty she is, like I'm used to it. But that one picture just hit me harder than the rest for some reason. True magnificence.

You should become a poet


When someone writes that and you write this, that's when you know two creepers have allied rofl.

No offense but... how is this news? >.>
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:19:26
April 09 2012 02:18 GMT
#53031
On April 09 2012 11:17 ChoboKal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:06 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:01 TuElite wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:54 ChoboKal wrote:
How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?


Personally, I don't care much, KPop isn't as much singing skills as it is a show. It's the overall package of dancing, singing, looks, personality, etc. That makes KPop stars as well as performances. I mean I have to hear their voices, they can't just full on lip-sync or I'm not watching. But if they sing the verses and lip-sync the chorus while doing a really hard, cool and entertaining dance, I have no problem with that at all.

Touché, it's not like Kpop is about talant in any way, it's a cultural phenomenon with a charm and a unique appeal. You need to see it as a different thing than most other genres.


I agree with all of this to a certain extent, but with the training process that all of the idols have to go through, wouldn't you think there would be better singers that came through? I think the "group" concept works so well because you can put very specialized people in the group to cover all areas, so should atleast one of them do the hard singing parts? and if not then why not leave the part out? idk maybe this is not such an important thing, but it is music after all.

There may have been better singers, but then they weren't as attractive, or were camera shy and didn't have much to say for variety, or couldn't dance, or could dance but not sing at the same time, or didn't want to keep practicing as hard. You can't really tell but even for main vocalists in a group labels consider a lot more than just vocal talent.

edit- @Haxx it's not, but it's just funny because you both have hit a new level of fanboyism/creeperdom today lol.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 09 2012 02:21 GMT
#53032
what have I done today? :o
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
April 09 2012 02:28 GMT
#53033
On April 09 2012 11:18 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:17 ChoboKal wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:06 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:01 TuElite wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:54 ChoboKal wrote:
How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?


Personally, I don't care much, KPop isn't as much singing skills as it is a show. It's the overall package of dancing, singing, looks, personality, etc. That makes KPop stars as well as performances. I mean I have to hear their voices, they can't just full on lip-sync or I'm not watching. But if they sing the verses and lip-sync the chorus while doing a really hard, cool and entertaining dance, I have no problem with that at all.

Touché, it's not like Kpop is about talant in any way, it's a cultural phenomenon with a charm and a unique appeal. You need to see it as a different thing than most other genres.


I agree with all of this to a certain extent, but with the training process that all of the idols have to go through, wouldn't you think there would be better singers that came through? I think the "group" concept works so well because you can put very specialized people in the group to cover all areas, so should atleast one of them do the hard singing parts? and if not then why not leave the part out? idk maybe this is not such an important thing, but it is music after all.

There may have been better singers, but then they weren't as attractive, or were camera shy and didn't have much to say for variety, or couldn't dance, or could dance but not sing at the same time, or didn't want to keep practicing as hard. You can't really tell but even for main vocalists in a group labels consider a lot more than just vocal talent.

edit- @Haxx it's not, but it's just funny because you both have hit a new level of fanboyism/creeperdom today lol.


Kpop is what it is, pretty people dancing with so so vocals ... take it or leave it because companies like JYP, SM etc are not going to change now, lets be honest this thread is more about cute pics than actual music discussion most of the times, so clearly they know what works.
ChoboKal
Profile Joined September 2011
United States74 Posts
April 09 2012 02:33 GMT
#53034
On April 09 2012 11:28 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:18 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:17 ChoboKal wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:06 HaXXspetten wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:01 TuElite wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:54 ChoboKal wrote:
How does everyone feel about these things? I have seen it multiple times. Do People prefer that or should they write songs in the practical range of singers?


Personally, I don't care much, KPop isn't as much singing skills as it is a show. It's the overall package of dancing, singing, looks, personality, etc. That makes KPop stars as well as performances. I mean I have to hear their voices, they can't just full on lip-sync or I'm not watching. But if they sing the verses and lip-sync the chorus while doing a really hard, cool and entertaining dance, I have no problem with that at all.

Touché, it's not like Kpop is about talant in any way, it's a cultural phenomenon with a charm and a unique appeal. You need to see it as a different thing than most other genres.


I agree with all of this to a certain extent, but with the training process that all of the idols have to go through, wouldn't you think there would be better singers that came through? I think the "group" concept works so well because you can put very specialized people in the group to cover all areas, so should atleast one of them do the hard singing parts? and if not then why not leave the part out? idk maybe this is not such an important thing, but it is music after all.

There may have been better singers, but then they weren't as attractive, or were camera shy and didn't have much to say for variety, or couldn't dance, or could dance but not sing at the same time, or didn't want to keep practicing as hard. You can't really tell but even for main vocalists in a group labels consider a lot more than just vocal talent.

edit- @Haxx it's not, but it's just funny because you both have hit a new level of fanboyism/creeperdom today lol.


Kpop is what it is, pretty people dancing with so so vocals ... take it or leave it because companies like JYP, SM etc are not going to change now, lets be honest this thread is more about cute pics than actual music discussion most of the times, so clearly they know what works.


Lol I was just going to say that... It really isnt so much a music discussion thread. It more like posting music and saying why you like the people who sing it ^.^ which is fine. I really dont give a fuck about anyone but Sohee
IMmvp fanboy
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:45:02
April 09 2012 02:44 GMT
#53035
On April 09 2012 09:38 Demizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:06 andyrau wrote:
I can't tell if you're being serious


Completely serious. Regardless of whether I'm serious or not, it doesn't change my opinion that it's a shit song with a stupid dance.

oh I wasnt really referring to your opinions on the dance or whatever.
more of the fact that you think "you and I is a rehashed good day"
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kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
April 09 2012 02:51 GMT
#53036
The EXO Mini Album(s) just released

most people have already heard MAMA, History, What is Love

the 3 other songs are

Angel (into your world)
Two Moons (the rapping one ft. Key from shinee)
Machine

Machine was never heard before, and it's pretty good i think. Angel is solid, and the 3 that were already released are solid as well. Can't really say I was too much a fan of Two Moons though. I don't dislike it, but don't particularly like it either.
IMMvp #1 :)
Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:59:03
April 09 2012 02:55 GMT
#53037
On April 09 2012 11:44 andyrau wrote:

oh I wasnt really referring to your opinions on the dance or whatever.
more of the fact that you think "you and I is a rehashed good day"


nor was I.
On April 09 2012 09:38 Demizzle wrote:
Completely serious that I believe You and I to be a shitty rehash of Good Day. Regardless of whether I'm serious or not about my opinion of You and I in relation to its relationship with Good Day, it doesn't change my opinion that it's a shit song with a stupid dance.


User was temp banned for this and other recent posts.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 09 2012 03:10 GMT
#53038
this thread is full of rabble rousers
:)
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
April 09 2012 03:37 GMT
#53039
4minute's volume up is pretty good--even without watching the music video while listening to the song. last time i felt this way about their songs was well over a year ago (i follow their japanese activities too). nice to see them release something good again.

shinhwa's comeback is awesome, especially the song "hurts." minwoo is charismatic as ever, always has a knack of finding the camera. loving dongwan's ever-improving vocals--i've always liked his husky tone. junjin's voice has improved too, and it's nice to see that he still has his dance moves. andy is WAY less awkward that before and he really grew into his looks he used to look really good during 1st/2nd album, then something happened in his 20s where he looked awkward all the time, but now that he's in his 30s he looks good again. hyesung's vocals are always on point as usual, but it's really unfortunate he hurt his knee during the concert. eric's flow seems to have gotten better. not to mention, even as a guy i find him to be ridiculously good looking. he should give hollywood a try. he could be the new face of korean/asian men in american cinema.
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Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
April 09 2012 03:39 GMT
#53040
On April 09 2012 12:10 unichan wrote:
this thread is full of rabble rousers

The 1950s version of 'trolls' lmao.

I'm really liking the EXO album. Angel(Into Your World) is really good. I already liked History and MAMA. What Is Love is a nice R&B track. It reminds me of TVXQ's Before U Go, just not as good. Two Moons is kind of an out of place song on the album imo. It's ok, but definitely my least favorite. I love Machine's style. Pretty good debut mini album overall. They have plenty of songs to release still from the teasers. Wish they included them, but hey, it's SM and they need to put something on a repackage lol.
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