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On January 30 2012 09:01 DystopiaX wrote: only the one thing that this thread forgets on an almost daily basis are that looks are subjective, and based on the amount of hate more people don't like Hyoyeon than don't like Hyorin..
I know that looks are subjective which is why I don't really have a problem with people like Hyoyeon/Hwayoung existing in these groups since someone out there likes them and values their contributions. I just find it sad that because the vocal majority of the thread thinks someone's ugly, it becomes a running gag to rag on them at every opportunity possible such as Hyoyeon being brought up into a conversation about Hwayoung's trollness which came from a fucking nipslip shot.
I personally think IU is fucking overrated as shit as a personality, and that her singing is lacking in emotion and her cutesy image is tired as shit. I also don't believe, and never believed that HSY or Nicole from KARA are above the level of Hwayoung and Hyoyeon (At least Hyoyeon can dance). I also think that KMK looks like ET with a flat forehead but I don't voice these opinions because I know I'm not in the vocal majority.
My sister's friend is a singer in korea (admittedly a relatively new one) and she tells us a lot of stories + Show Spoiler +
The one that sings Goldfish with Crispi Crunch
And these girls have little control over their own lives, their appearance, image, fashion sense inclusive. I just find it sad that people feel the need to rag on Hyoyeon and Hwayoung for 20+ pages because it's become the social norm of the thread.
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On January 30 2012 09:16 Kipsate wrote: Hyorin compensates her face with her voice.
This is also subjective as fuck. Personally I feel like her high notes sound like nails on a chalkboard and her face looks like the expression people give when they hear nails on a chalk board. ONE MAN'S TRASH. ONE MAN'S TREASURE.
"lowest" by what factor? because she's still widely considered (if not here) to be one of the best looking in that group; hell, that's all she's known for.
On January 30 2012 09:18 betamale wrote: if anything qri is the "lowest" in t-ara now and that's still higher than anything from snsd
Ok while these topics are kind of retarded...this is just...really? Qri is obviously the best looking girl in t-ara, by far. Up there among the few godtiers, also boram looks hella fine the last 6 months or so.
On January 30 2012 09:21 DystopiaX wrote: "lowest" by what factor? because she's still widely considered (if not here) to be one of the best looking in that group; hell, that's all she's known for.
by looks, i think she looks wierd sometimes but you're right she still looks pretty good, being the lowest or one of the lowest in t-ara right now isn't something to scoff at.
@demizzle- I don't know what to tell you, other than the fact that from what I can tell you appear to be upset that people have opinions on the internet and are expressing them...I'm sure you know by now that a large part of this thread centers upon looks, and that it being the internet there's going to be a ton of hate for things along with praise, so you seem to be worked up about something that's going to happen anyway.
You seem to be mad that in a thread that has such a sense of "community" as this one inside jokes ("memes" if you will) have popped up, some (most) of them negative, but since it's basically the same small number of people commenting on the threads day in and day out many popular opinions just get resaid.
Your unpopular beliefs bit seems like a bit of a nonsequitur, because as far as I can tell you bring that point up as justification for why so many people bash the trolls, but I think that most people on here have no problems with expressing unpopular opinions (I don't like IU, ChinaLife likes Hwayoung, hell until people started postspamming her like crazy no one ever really talked about Soyeon for the longest time). I don't think that people bash Hwayoung/Hyoyeon because it's a majority opinion, but because most people just don't like them.
Hwayoung looks like a above-average looking Korean girl with a large head and is pretty tall. Hyoyeon just has a displeasing face and her personality is very unattractive as well (from the variety shows I've seen). She seems to be the one who fights the most within SNSD as well. She has no vocal skills, no attractiveness, and her dancing isn't even shown because SNSD is a 9-member group that does mild choreography for their performances. In terms of attractiveness she joins the ranks of CL and Hyorin, however in overall qualities shes the bottom of the bottom.
On January 30 2012 09:01 DystopiaX wrote: only the one thing that this thread forgets on an almost daily basis are that looks are subjective, and based on the amount of hate more people don't like Hyoyeon than don't like Hyorin..
I know that looks are subjective which is why I don't really have a problem with people like Hyoyeon/Hwayoung existing in these groups since someone out there likes them and values their contributions. I just find it sad that because the vocal majority of the thread thinks someone's ugly, it becomes a running gag to rag on them at every opportunity possible such as Hyoyeon being brought up into a conversation about Hwayoung's trollness which came from a fucking nipslip shot.
Hyoyeon really is ugly in my opinion. I responded to someone who thought she was "hot".
I personally think IU is fucking overrated as shit as a personality, and that her singing is lacking in emotion and her cutesy image is tired as shit. I also don't believe, and never believed that HSY or Nicole from KARA are above the level of Hwayoung and Hyoyeon (At least Hyoyeon can dance). I also think that KMK looks like ET with a flat forehead but I don't voice these opinions because I know I'm not in the vocal majority.
I don't like IU too. But her voice control is fabulous. KMK is cute.
My sister's friend is a singer in korea (admittedly a relatively new one) and she tells us a lot of stories + Show Spoiler +
And these girls have little control over their own lives, their appearance, image, fashion sense inclusive. I just find it sad that people feel the need to rag on Hyoyeon and Hwayoung for 20+ pages because it's become the social norm of the thread.
Still doesn't change their appearance. You need to work on collecting your thoughts.
On January 30 2012 09:16 Kipsate wrote: Hyorin compensates her face with her voice.
This is also subjective as fuck. Personally I feel like her high notes sound like nails on a chalkboard and her face looks like the expression people give when they hear nails on a chalk board. ONE MAN'S TRASH. ONE MAN'S TREASURE.
Now it's getting sad. You're trying to hard to be different.
Qri one of the best looking in T-ara. Boram and Hwayoung are the resident trolls. Hyoyeon >>>> Hwayoung easily. But no one compares to Amber, the trolliest of trolls.
On January 30 2012 09:36 DystopiaX wrote: @demizzle- I don't know what to tell you,
I'm far from mad, really. I just find it mildly amusing. Hell I troll the shit out of people because it's commonly accepted here. Maybe I'm just overanalysing things. Just I tend to get warned whenever I post shit.
Admittedly, I just finished watching 49 Days and my unending love for Gyuri has made me a little bit emotional >_______________________________________>
Here, have some minority
On January 30 2012 09:46 StyLeD wrote: <insert shit here>
I think her voice is fabulous too which is why she's one of my more listened to artists. I just think that the cutesy image should go fuck itself
On January 30 2012 09:55 Spekulatius wrote: Have to agree with DystopiaX.
I know this shit too. I've been a long time lurker. I'm not exactly new to k-pop or KMD which is precisely why I rarely post. It's just that when the bashing goes on for double digit pages, things go a little overboard. Especially when the other lurkers start popping out to join in on the bashing. Which was where my main post was really coming from
There's few people here being offended by others posting unpopular opinions. I mean, we're having Boram lovers, Hwayoung lovers and people who appreciate Hyoyeon. There's people who don't admire IU like the majority of us do, or who don't see the greatness of Taeyeon, Jiyeon or Eunjung. There's no problem with this at all unless people try hard defending their opinion by bringing up "objective" arguments (when it's all about taste) or, even worse, try to force others to accept their diverging opinion as truth. That's when it gets really absurd and evokes heated reactions.
I don't really like Taeyeon (deal with it) but what is there to discuss? So I don't bring it up. I'd come off as a tryhard, a hater or a troll and I'm never gonna convince anyone else or feel better after posting that. So why bother?