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Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 11:24:50
October 17 2011 11:04 GMT
#34441
On October 17 2011 18:31 SFaXieL wrote:
Lee Soo Man's take on venturing into the U.S. Market:

“... Rather than venturing into the U.S., we are just holding a concert as a consolation for the people we consider a part of an imaginary country called SM TOWN. The markets of China and Asia will be bigger than the U.S. market. Thus, it isn’t really necessary to go into the U.S. In the near future, when a ‘Hollywood of Asia’ appears, the cultural center of the world will make a big shift to Asia. Asian songs are not well known in the U.S.? Totally irrelevant because Asia will soon become the center.”

Agree or Disagree?


Soon is an overstatement, but overall its a good strategy and if successful would put SM at the forefront in a massive market.

Its been SM's end goal for a while now, to build up the Asia market for long term dominance while getting what they can now from the hallyu wave in Japan and whatever forays they can sweep up in Europe and the Americas.

For pagetop.
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 11:28:25
October 17 2011 11:24 GMT
#34442
On October 17 2011 13:29 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 13:19 Fspoonork wrote:
Just of curiosity because I enjoy kpop but i don't understand a word of Korean and I'm curious how many are in the same boat as me.

Poll: You listen to kpop yes?

I'm not Korean and I don't speak Korean (98)
 
78%

And I'm Korean and speak Korean (15)
 
12%

I'm not Korean and I speak Korean (10)
 
8%

And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean (2)
 
2%

125 total votes

Your vote: You listen to kpop yes?

(Vote): And I'm Korean and speak Korean
(Vote): And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean
(Vote): I'm not Korean and I speak Korean
(Vote): I'm not Korean and I don't speak Korean



Show nested quote +
And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean


This made me laugh so hard when I read it.



I'm Chinese, I don't speak Korean.
I'm Chinese cantonese and I speak cantonese.

And it would seem strange to you for a Chinese to not speak Chinese(any dialect). But that's not true, there are more then enough second generation Chinese immigrants that don't speak the language... SHAMEFULL! But it happens, parents tend to want the children have less problem at school so they themselves use their half arsed native language skills to teach their children. So the children don't really learn Chinese. I have more then enough friends that wouldn't be able to survive overseas while being yellow-skinned. And all of them regret not having learned the Chinese language now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, does anyone here watch Bakuman? Sulli is looking like Miho


*edit Oh it says that it will be a whole new cast... no Sunny :'( Hyoyeon is still possible as it states that the cast will still comprise of popular girl groups, including those from previous season.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 17 2011 11:37 GMT
#34443
On October 17 2011 18:31 SFaXieL wrote:
Lee Soo Man's take on venturing into the U.S. Market:

“... Rather than venturing into the U.S., we are just holding a concert as a consolation for the people we consider a part of an imaginary country called SM TOWN. The markets of China and Asia will be bigger than the U.S. market. Thus, it isn’t really necessary to go into the U.S. In the near future, when a ‘Hollywood of Asia’ appears, the cultural center of the world will make a big shift to Asia. Asian songs are not well known in the U.S.? Totally irrelevant because Asia will soon become the center.”

Agree or Disagree?

+ Show Spoiler [Taeng] +
[image loading]

That's dumb. There will never be as many jay chous as there will be Jay z s. And even then there is more international appeal in a jayz song than a jaychou song. Look at every other peak of an asian countries music scene, whether it be taiwanese, japanese or whatever it lasts a few years and moves on because countries inevitably go back to songs in their native language. The money is elsewhere.

In that regard Japan has already outplayed korea because sony music emerged rather than jpop trying to conquer the world. The fact that even when kara or snsd goes to Japan they still have to sell their music through someone else just shows how far behind they are.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
October 17 2011 12:46 GMT
#34444
On October 17 2011 20:24 Sableyeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 13:29 Ciryandor wrote:
On October 17 2011 13:19 Fspoonork wrote:
Just of curiosity because I enjoy kpop but i don't understand a word of Korean and I'm curious how many are in the same boat as me.

Poll: You listen to kpop yes?

I'm not Korean and I don't speak Korean (98)
 
78%

And I'm Korean and speak Korean (15)
 
12%

I'm not Korean and I speak Korean (10)
 
8%

And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean (2)
 
2%

125 total votes

Your vote: You listen to kpop yes?

(Vote): And I'm Korean and speak Korean
(Vote): And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean
(Vote): I'm not Korean and I speak Korean
(Vote): I'm not Korean and I don't speak Korean



And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean


This made me laugh so hard when I read it.



I'm Chinese, I don't speak Korean.
I'm Chinese cantonese and I speak cantonese.

And it would seem strange to you for a Chinese to not speak Chinese(any dialect). But that's not true, there are more then enough second generation Chinese immigrants that don't speak the language... SHAMEFULL! But it happens, parents tend to want the children have less problem at school so they themselves use their half arsed native language skills to teach their children. So the children don't really learn Chinese. I have more then enough friends that wouldn't be able to survive overseas while being yellow-skinned. And all of them regret not having learned the Chinese language now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, does anyone here watch Bakuman? Sulli is looking like Miho


*edit Oh it says that it will be a whole new cast... no Sunny :'( Hyoyeon is still possible as it states that the cast will still comprise of popular girl groups, including those from previous season.

I am Chinese and I have a hard time speaking and understanding Chinese... I am shameful ;(
:)
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 13:09:18
October 17 2011 13:08 GMT
#34445
On October 17 2011 20:24 Sableyeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 13:29 Ciryandor wrote:
On October 17 2011 13:19 Fspoonork wrote:
Just of curiosity because I enjoy kpop but i don't understand a word of Korean and I'm curious how many are in the same boat as me.

Poll: You listen to kpop yes?

I'm not Korean and I don't speak Korean (98)
 
78%

And I'm Korean and speak Korean (15)
 
12%

I'm not Korean and I speak Korean (10)
 
8%

And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean (2)
 
2%

125 total votes

Your vote: You listen to kpop yes?

(Vote): And I'm Korean and speak Korean
(Vote): And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean
(Vote): I'm not Korean and I speak Korean
(Vote): I'm not Korean and I don't speak Korean



And I'm Korean and don't speak Korean


This made me laugh so hard when I read it.



I'm Chinese, I don't speak Korean.
I'm Chinese cantonese and I speak cantonese.

And it would seem strange to you for a Chinese to not speak Chinese(any dialect). But that's not true, there are more then enough second generation Chinese immigrants that don't speak the language... SHAMEFULL! But it happens, parents tend to want the children have less problem at school so they themselves use their half arsed native language skills to teach their children. So the children don't really learn Chinese. I have more then enough friends that wouldn't be able to survive overseas while being yellow-skinned. And all of them regret not having learned the Chinese language now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, does anyone here watch Bakuman? Sulli is looking like Miho


*edit Oh it says that it will be a whole new cast... no Sunny :'( Hyoyeon is still possible as it states that the cast will still comprise of popular girl groups, including those from previous season.

For me it was more like I was fluent conversationally, and then went to school and stopped speaking for 8 hours a day, and my chinese-only speaking grandparents moved out of the house and went back to China, and my parents spoke a mixture of both languages anyway, which resulted in me forgetting whatever I knew, unfortunately.

On October 17 2011 19:20 iMYoonA wrote:
korean sounds nice when sung, but when spoken, sounds like horse shit. the same goes for cantonese. imho mandarin chinese is the one that sounds nice when spoken and sung. korean as a language is not that useful to learn as well, has very little utility compared to something like mandarin. while i am cantonese, i have been meaning to learn mandarin for ages..... just too lazy :D

I agree with the Mandarin part but I do think that Korean sounds good either way. Something about the set of sounds they use and the fact that consonants are never put together (unlike most western languages) means that it sounds more fluid compared to say, english, where consonant clusters make for more gutteral sounds.


On October 17 2011 20:37 T0fuuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 18:31 SFaXieL wrote:
Lee Soo Man's take on venturing into the U.S. Market:

“... Rather than venturing into the U.S., we are just holding a concert as a consolation for the people we consider a part of an imaginary country called SM TOWN. The markets of China and Asia will be bigger than the U.S. market. Thus, it isn’t really necessary to go into the U.S. In the near future, when a ‘Hollywood of Asia’ appears, the cultural center of the world will make a big shift to Asia. Asian songs are not well known in the U.S.? Totally irrelevant because Asia will soon become the center.”

Agree or Disagree?

+ Show Spoiler [Taeng] +
[image loading]

That's dumb. There will never be as many jay chous as there will be Jay z s. And even then there is more international appeal in a jayz song than a jaychou song. Look at every other peak of an asian countries music scene, whether it be taiwanese, japanese or whatever it lasts a few years and moves on because countries inevitably go back to songs in their native language. The money is elsewhere.

In that regard Japan has already outplayed korea because sony music emerged rather than jpop trying to conquer the world. The fact that even when kara or snsd goes to Japan they still have to sell their music through someone else just shows how far behind they are.

The thing that SM believes and I think will happen eventually is that it won't matter that the songs don't catch on in Europe/America, they're already big in Korea and some parts of Asia, and by continuing to push into other parts of Asia (such as Miss A are doing in China, everyone in Japan), when the Asian market continues to grow and expand, especially with Asian consumers spending more and more every day, is that eventually the Asian market will be just as big or bigger than the American market, making it more irrelevant.

Even if that takes awhile, what I think SM has realized is that having Korean artists breaking into the US market is a long shot and something not worth investing heavily in at this point in time since the expected return is so small, so instead they'll put out English versions of everything and do a few concerts a year to get all the guaranteed niche fanbase dollars that they can.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:21:30
October 17 2011 14:17 GMT
#34446
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Commentator
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 17 2011 14:19 GMT
#34447
looks like a character select screen of a japanese doujin fighting game
Forever Young
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
October 17 2011 14:33 GMT
#34448
Am I supposed to see a resemblence? o.O
boomer hands
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:55:11
October 17 2011 14:38 GMT
#34449
+ Show Spoiler +
Brace yourselves.



edit: already blocked? damn you, TSEnt.

Always smile~
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:49:03
October 17 2011 14:46 GMT
#34450
KARA to release new Japanese album "Super Girl" in November


"Super Girl" will be released on November 23rd. Their newest single "Winter Magic" will be available starting October 19th.


Why release the MV, Single and album so far a part ? Something must have leaked.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
October 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#34451
On October 17 2011 23:38 Spekulatius wrote:
Brace yourselves.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmbjv8yzikM



Blocked
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:56:16
October 17 2011 14:55 GMT
#34452
On October 17 2011 23:54 Onox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 23:38 Spekulatius wrote:
Brace yourselves.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmbjv8yzikM



Blocked

That was quick. Someone from the authorities is reading the KMDT?
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
October 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#34453
On October 17 2011 23:38 Spekulatius wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Brace yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmbjv8yzikM


edit: already blocked? damn you, TSEnt.


damn they blocked it so fast..
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 15:01:18
October 17 2011 15:01 GMT
#34454
Could you upload it under a different name that would not pop up if you search it so we could enjoy it?
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 15:04:56
October 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#34455
ughh i wanted to watch it so bad U_U...

On October 18 2011 00:02 TuElite wrote:
Dammmnnnn you got blocked fast.

I wonder how the blocking system works... Do companies send like certain tags to Youtube so that Youtube can automatically block any video containing said tags as soon as it gets uploaded or do some employees sit around all day, browsing the youtubes to remove videos ? Can I have that job lol.


i think they have a way of recognizing and matching the audio/video automatically which is why people upload videos mirrored or with the sound warped. and that job probably wouldn't pay very well
:)
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
October 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#34456
Dammmnnnn you got blocked fast.

I wonder how the blocking system works... Do companies send like certain tags to Youtube so that Youtube can automatically block any video containing said tags as soon as it gets uploaded or do some employees sit around all day, browsing the youtubes to remove videos ? Can I have that job lol.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
October 17 2011 15:05 GMT
#34457
On October 18 2011 00:01 Hemula wrote:
Could you upload it under a different name that would not pop up if you search it so we could enjoy it?


I'm on it.

And sorry for the hype I provoked, didn't know I'd be shut down so fast.
Always smile~
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 17 2011 15:05 GMT
#34458
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I wanna watch
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 15:31:01
October 17 2011 15:17 GMT
#34459
No need for me, I guess:



Damn, that's a lot of meaty women in one video.
Always smile~
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 15:49:09
October 17 2011 15:22 GMT
#34460
they cut the scenes really fast.. makes my head hurts
but it is still good.
EDIT: after watching it several times.. im in love.. overload hotness
snsd hoot
+ Show Spoiler +
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
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