EPTOn the other hand I would be able to tell what the (terrible) nonsensical lyrics the generic kpop songs actually contain. (Like, F(x) pinnochio)
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Kipsate
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On the other hand I would be able to tell what the (terrible) nonsensical lyrics the generic kpop songs actually contain. (Like, F(x) pinnochio) pagetop | ||
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Craton
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If you can't hold a conversation in a language, then you don't speak the language. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 17 2011 13:52 Kipsate wrote: On the one hand I'd like to learn Korean On the other hand I would be able to tell what the (terrible) nonsensical lyrics the generic kpop songs actually contain. (Like, F(x) pinnochio) pagetop + Show Spoiler + I'd like to think I wouldn't be bothered cause I've never really been into it for the music anyway, and could always hit the mute button. Who knows though...I'm not at that level yet so. ^It's a little gray though. By your standards I wouldn't be classified as speaking Korean (and I agree with that) yet I've gotten to the point where I can recognize certain phrases in songs and in Korean speech and sometimes get the gist of a conversation, so it isn't totally the "I don't know what the fuck is going on here I like dem legzzzzzz" that the poster of the poll is referring to. double edit- @Kipsate response- if anything the outfit's bagginess when it's clearly meant to be more skintight show how skinny she is, she's crypting hard, which I don't really care about cause she's never been close to my favorite in Rainbow anyway. | ||
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Kipsate
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On October 17 2011 13:52 Kipsate wrote: On the one hand I'd like to learn Korean On the other hand I would be able to tell what the (terrible) nonsensical lyrics the generic kpop songs actually contain. (Like, F(x) pinnochio) pagetop + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2011 13:53 Craton wrote: Seunga looks like a skeleton. If you can't hold a conversation in a language, then you don't speak the language. Think its the outfit. Anyway, everything is cooler in korean. Just like koreans think its cooler to add random eng(rish) to random kpop songs. I'd say you know the language if you can indeed hold a full conversation with someone, if you can just recognize lyrics or certain phrases then you don't really know the language. Lyric translations are probably not worth knowing for any song except ballads though anyway. | ||
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PatouPower
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DystopiaX
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Sephy90
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On October 17 2011 13:54 DystopiaX wrote: I'd like to think I wouldn't be bothered cause I've never really been into it for the music anyway, and could always hit the mute button. Who knows though...I'm not at that level yet so. ^It's a little gray though. By your standards I wouldn't be classified as speaking Korean (and I agree with that) yet I've gotten to the point where I can recognize certain phrases in songs and in Korean speech and sometimes get the gist of a conversation, so it isn't totally the "I don't know what the fuck is going on here I like dem legzzzzzz" that the poster of the poll is referring to. double edit- @Kipsate response- if anything the outfit's bagginess when it's clearly meant to be more skintight show how skinny she is, she's crypting hard, which I don't really care about cause she's never been close to my favorite in Rainbow anyway. Yeah I'm practically on the same boat in regards to the language. I'm slowly learning but I can actually read hangul OK and now my reading speed isn't quite bad either given that I practice just by reading what my Korean friends are saying over chat. When I listen to them speak I'll generally pick up a few things of their conversation every now and then which is really cool and I get stupid excited. It's sooo fun learning the language though we should practice together! <3 | ||
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Kaiwa
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On October 17 2011 13:20 DystopiaX wrote: I don't fit in anywhere really, I'm not Korean and don't speak but am learning. I guess I could put don't speak but that's not completely true. Pretty much this. Every day you pick-up more and more of the lyrics and it's actually pretty rewarding to figure out another "piece of the puzzle". On October 17 2011 13:59 DystopiaX wrote: ^I tend to put on electronic music when playing SC for the same reason, although sometimes I'll put on the occasional podcast and focus more on that than the game lol I did this a lot too, but for some reason if I play with just calm K-pop ballad songs I seem to be a lot more focused on the game. Every time I play ladder I have insane Adrenaline... the songs keep it lower making it a lot easier for me  | ||
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Kipsate
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On October 17 2011 14:38 Kaiwa wrote: Pretty much this. Every day you pick-up more and more of the lyrics and it's actually pretty rewarding to figure out another "piece of the puzzle". I did this a lot too, but for some reason if I play with just calm K-pop ballad songs I seem to be a lot more focused on the game. Every time I play ladder I have insane Adrenaline... the songs keep it lower making it a lot easier for me I usually just have my Itunes in and at some point you are so into the game(SC2 or SCBW) that you won't care what is running right now. Except if its LoL, in which case I can switch very fast and not lose important game time(so to speak). | ||
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DystopiaX
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On October 17 2011 14:38 Kaiwa wrote: Pretty much this. Every day you pick-up more and more of the lyrics and it's actually pretty rewarding to figure out another "piece of the puzzle". I did this a lot too, but for some reason if I play with just calm K-pop ballad songs I seem to be a lot more focused on the game. Every time I play ladder I have insane Adrenaline... the songs keep it lower making it a lot easier for me I play P, so alot of PvPs get intense and micro battles, I feel like the insane adrenaline and heart pumping helps me play faster, but that could just be in my head. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On October 17 2011 13:44 DystopiaX wrote: Has it always been korean shit, or other shit as well? Almost every language. | ||
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Moonwrath
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sauman
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Onox
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On October 17 2011 16:20 Moonwrath wrote: I've recently started listening to TVXQ5 and I'm just blown away. I got into Kpop when TVXQ2 cameback with Keep Your Head Down so I missed out on the glory days. But a friend shot me some links to some live performances and it's just incredible how amazing they were. I've spent the last 2 hours replaying them instead of working. I know they were the kings before the lawsuit, does anyone else really like them? I really enjoy TVXQ, most played boy group besides Suju on my lastfm | ||
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KroplaBeskidu
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SFaXieL
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“... Rather than venturing into the U.S., we are just holding a concert as a consolation for the people we consider a part of an imaginary country called SM TOWN. The markets of China and Asia will be bigger than the U.S. market. Thus, it isn’t really necessary to go into the U.S. In the near future, when a ‘Hollywood of Asia’ appears, the cultural center of the world will make a big shift to Asia. Asian songs are not well known in the U.S.? Totally irrelevant because Asia will soon become the center.” Agree or Disagree? + Show Spoiler [Taeng] + ![[image loading]](http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/66a364edjw1dm75qm94gdj.jpg) | ||
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KroplaBeskidu
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But back on topic of kpop discussion, I just hope it's not some allkpop mistranslation bullshit, and that he actually follows through on that too, ie that it's not just big talk. If he really thinks this way then that's a huge relief from a soshi fan perspective. Sunny/Hyo on IY2 and now this and things suddenly starting to look real cool again  Assuming both are true of course | ||
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Kipsate
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On October 17 2011 18:31 SFaXieL wrote: Lee Soo Man's take on venturing into the U.S. Market: “... Rather than venturing into the U.S., we are just holding a concert as a consolation for the people we consider a part of an imaginary country called SM TOWN. The markets of China and Asia will be bigger than the U.S. market. Thus, it isn’t really necessary to go into the U.S. In the near future, when a ‘Hollywood of Asia’ appears, the cultural center of the world will make a big shift to Asia. Asian songs are not well known in the U.S.? Totally irrelevant because Asia will soon become the center.” Agree or Disagree? + Show Spoiler [Taeng] + While I suppose this may hold some truth, the average Asian consumer does not buy as much as the average western consumer(or japanese fella) so it will take quite some while before that happens. and by then the current Idols will be irrelevant, as I don't expect them to last that long(as is the nature of pop music) As for Boy band whatever, Super Junior's Superman is a pretty good song imo. Semi-bonus: wtf fashion woori ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qlER8.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/37GTb.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/08TRR.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3p6wx.jpg) Hyunyoung looking fiineeeeeee tho. | ||
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iMYoonA
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korean sounds nice when sung, but when spoken, sounds like horse shit. the same goes for cantonese. imho mandarin chinese is the one that sounds nice when spoken and sung. korean as a language is not that useful to learn as well, has very little utility compared to something like mandarin. while i am cantonese, i have been meaning to learn mandarin for ages..... just too lazy :D As for the above post, i disagree. For some reason, most people find the situation as: If i dont understand it, I don't like it, unless its something like danza lucenzo. imho that is pretty much why the asian songs wont succeed, no matter how pretty yoona is. | ||
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