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On February 21 2011 04:55 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 04:31 Shauni wrote:
oh, that's a bit surprising... So I'll actually have to finish it once and play it again in order to make anything different. Isn't that a bit strange? So the choices you make have absolutely no significance except sometimes leading to a bad ending? Why do everyone say that the game is a hundred times better than the anime if it's just the same thing? (And I actually liked the anime soundtrack more!) I haven't noticed any major differences and I've played for like 10 hours... Seriously, just hold down ctrl for the first route. The only major difference from the anime for the first route is that caster is retarded in a slightly different (and more boring) way. I can't think of anything else you could possibly miss other than h-scenes.
I kinda had to laugh when you get the h-scenes in the first route and how they were build into the story
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On February 21 2011 05:00 Raelgar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 04:55 Spazer wrote:On February 21 2011 04:31 Shauni wrote:
oh, that's a bit surprising... So I'll actually have to finish it once and play it again in order to make anything different. Isn't that a bit strange? So the choices you make have absolutely no significance except sometimes leading to a bad ending? Why do everyone say that the game is a hundred times better than the anime if it's just the same thing? (And I actually liked the anime soundtrack more!) I haven't noticed any major differences and I've played for like 10 hours... Seriously, just hold down ctrl for the first route. The only major difference from the anime for the first route is that caster is retarded in a slightly different (and more boring) way. I can't think of anything else you could possibly miss other than h-scenes. I kinda had to laugh when you get the h-scenes in the first route and how they were build into the story
At least it somehow built those into the story fine. You play Utawarerumono, get h-scenes and scratch your head in utter confusion. Because there was absolutely no reason for there to be one. Then bam, h-scene. Derp~
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Ecael, can you elaborate on this UBW movie version please? I don't even know what it stands for...
Also, I won't ctrl through the fate part. I think it's relatively good and I'm patient enough to read through it even when I've seen the anime. I didn't complain because I was bored, I was just under the impression that the multiple routes branched from a single playthrough, not three.
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Phantom, Higurashi, Tears to Tiara, the two Type-Moon ones were okay if you consider they limited themselves to one route...
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On February 21 2011 05:06 Southlight wrote:
Phantom, Higurashi, Tears to Tiara, the two Type-Moon ones were okay if you consider they limited themselves to one route...
I deliberately left Higurashi out of my list lol :p
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Don't forget about Fate Stay Night. Multiple routes and an excellent storyline.
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On February 21 2011 05:03 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 05:00 Raelgar wrote:On February 21 2011 04:55 Spazer wrote:On February 21 2011 04:31 Shauni wrote:
oh, that's a bit surprising... So I'll actually have to finish it once and play it again in order to make anything different. Isn't that a bit strange? So the choices you make have absolutely no significance except sometimes leading to a bad ending? Why do everyone say that the game is a hundred times better than the anime if it's just the same thing? (And I actually liked the anime soundtrack more!) I haven't noticed any major differences and I've played for like 10 hours... Seriously, just hold down ctrl for the first route. The only major difference from the anime for the first route is that caster is retarded in a slightly different (and more boring) way. I can't think of anything else you could possibly miss other than h-scenes. I kinda had to laugh when you get the h-scenes in the first route and how they were build into the story At least it somehow built those into the story fine. You play Utawarerumono, get h-scenes and scratch your head in utter confusion. Because there was absolutely no reason for there to be one. Then bam, h-scene. Derp~
Karura had sex with him because he wanted him to rescue her brother, Eruru...well, that usual love-thing, Yuzuha because she was dying and wanted to, at least, become a woman, Touka because she wanted to be as close as possible to protect him+serve him in any way, Urutori after she lost her baby and Kamyu...well, that was more like a rape, lol.
Anyway, it wasn't about the main storyline(putting Kamyu aside) but more about the character's own story. I had no problem with it and weren't confused.
btw: T-M doesn't build story/characters around h-scenes, those are more of an extra...because pretty much every VN is 18+. I like it that they decided to just dump it and go without such things in the upcoming one.
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The thing that bugs me about FSN's h-scenes is that their rationale for doing it is always "hurr durr mana transfer". It feels like they're making excuses. At least in Tsukihime they did it because they wanted to. -_-
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On February 21 2011 05:18 Spazer wrote:
The thing that bugs me about FSN's h-scenes is that their rationale for doing it is always "hurr durr mana transfer". It feels like they're making excuses. At least in Tsukihime they did it because they wanted to. -_-
Gotta do it 'cause you wanna do it.
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On February 21 2011 05:10 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 05:03 Ecael wrote:On February 21 2011 05:00 Raelgar wrote:On February 21 2011 04:55 Spazer wrote:On February 21 2011 04:31 Shauni wrote:
oh, that's a bit surprising... So I'll actually have to finish it once and play it again in order to make anything different. Isn't that a bit strange? So the choices you make have absolutely no significance except sometimes leading to a bad ending? Why do everyone say that the game is a hundred times better than the anime if it's just the same thing? (And I actually liked the anime soundtrack more!) I haven't noticed any major differences and I've played for like 10 hours... Seriously, just hold down ctrl for the first route. The only major difference from the anime for the first route is that caster is retarded in a slightly different (and more boring) way. I can't think of anything else you could possibly miss other than h-scenes. I kinda had to laugh when you get the h-scenes in the first route and how they were build into the story At least it somehow built those into the story fine. You play Utawarerumono, get h-scenes and scratch your head in utter confusion. Because there was absolutely no reason for there to be one. Then bam, h-scene. Derp~ Karura had sex with him because he wanted him to rescue her brother, Eruru...well, that usual love-thing, Yuzuha because she was dying and wanted to, at least, become a woman, Touka because she wanted to be as close as possible to protect him+serve him in any way, Urutori after she lost her baby and Kamyu...well, that was more like a rape, lol. Anyway, it wasn't about the main storyline(putting Kamyu aside) but more about the character's own story. I had no problem with it and weren't confused. btw: T-M doesn't build story/characters around h-scenes, those are more of an extra...because pretty much every VN is 18+. I like it that they decided to just dump it and go without such things in the upcoming one.
Karura didn't need to do that at all and both of them knew it, it just snowballed into one because that was the clear thing to do at that moment. Eruru was the only one I can kind of see some sense in it, Yuzuha's excuse was that usual one that I honestly can't buy. Touka wanted his kid too, but for someone who has been acting in a way as if she has cast aside her womanhood it is a strange thing to do. Urutori was a moment of weakness, but again I don't think that we needed a h-scene there. Kamyu...lol yeah that was seriously just rape. I didn't so much have a problem with them as I felt that we could've done better without these h-scenes and let the game go on sale for all age instead of 18+.
T-M hardly builds things around h-scenes, but in general they have h-scenes that make more sense to me rather than "Well, we need some hot stuff around this time, let's throw in some sex"
Oh yeah Southlight mentioned Higurashi. To add to that, Umineko was like one of the worst adaptations ever. Take everything good in the VN, don't animate it, that's the Umineko anime.
Shauni, it stands for Unlimited Blade Works, the name of the second route of F/SN. The theatrical version was released a while back and the DVD rip has been subbed.
On February 21 2011 05:18 Spazer wrote:
The thing that bugs me about FSN's h-scenes is that their rationale for doing it is always "hurr durr mana transfer". It feels like they're making excuses. At least in Tsukihime they did it because they wanted to. -_-
At the same time, with Shirou, without some pretext like that there would never be anything happening.
I should probably get back to finishing IS vol 6, got bored at some point because there wasn't enough Tatenashi and Charlotte then went to reread Inganock.
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On February 21 2011 05:18 Spazer wrote:
The thing that bugs me about FSN's h-scenes is that their rationale for doing it is always "hurr durr mana transfer". It feels like they're making excuses. At least in Tsukihime they did it because they wanted to. -_-
Shirou and Sakura do it because Sakura wants it...badly 
Also, 4 more episodes until I finish Terra e..., was pretty disappointing. And I still don't know why every female character wears lipstick -.- Another thing is, they killed Seki Ray Shiroe which was such a good character. Way to ruin it, they should have done that with Suena instead.
After that, I still can't start my Gundam UC marathon. Need something to fill the time in between, dunno what though. I have several choices:
Blue Gender
Cluster Edge(got bad ratings)
Last Exile
Legend of the Galactic Heroes(continue it, but probably won't happen)
Mnemosyne
Otogizoushi
Phantom - Requiem for the Phantom
RahXephon
Saikano(apparently they cry all the time there)
Shion no Ou
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Saikano has a few good scenes, an interesting theme with terrible execution and the hilariously worst sex scene I've ever seen. It is still a pretty sad story, but I couldn't stop laughing at that sex scene.
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+ Show Spoiler [Saikano] +At least the scenes where Chise is in her weapon form are great. Especially when she narrates her letters to Shuuji.
"Are you satisfied with your little war? It looks like it is my turn now."
*Energy wings, everybody dies*
"Shuu-chan, I've destroyed another city today."
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Last Exile and Phantom were good. Last Exile in particular was one of my high school goodies.
SnO I'd advise against.
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On February 21 2011 05:21 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 05:10 Lucumo wrote:On February 21 2011 05:03 Ecael wrote:On February 21 2011 05:00 Raelgar wrote:On February 21 2011 04:55 Spazer wrote:On February 21 2011 04:31 Shauni wrote:
oh, that's a bit surprising... So I'll actually have to finish it once and play it again in order to make anything different. Isn't that a bit strange? So the choices you make have absolutely no significance except sometimes leading to a bad ending? Why do everyone say that the game is a hundred times better than the anime if it's just the same thing? (And I actually liked the anime soundtrack more!) I haven't noticed any major differences and I've played for like 10 hours... Seriously, just hold down ctrl for the first route. The only major difference from the anime for the first route is that caster is retarded in a slightly different (and more boring) way. I can't think of anything else you could possibly miss other than h-scenes. I kinda had to laugh when you get the h-scenes in the first route and how they were build into the story At least it somehow built those into the story fine. You play Utawarerumono, get h-scenes and scratch your head in utter confusion. Because there was absolutely no reason for there to be one. Then bam, h-scene. Derp~ Karura had sex with him because he wanted him to rescue her brother, Eruru...well, that usual love-thing, Yuzuha because she was dying and wanted to, at least, become a woman, Touka because she wanted to be as close as possible to protect him+serve him in any way, Urutori after she lost her baby and Kamyu...well, that was more like a rape, lol. Anyway, it wasn't about the main storyline(putting Kamyu aside) but more about the character's own story. I had no problem with it and weren't confused. btw: T-M doesn't build story/characters around h-scenes, those are more of an extra...because pretty much every VN is 18+. I like it that they decided to just dump it and go without such things in the upcoming one. Karura didn't need to do that at all and both of them knew it, it just snowballed into one because that was the clear thing to do at that moment. Eruru was the only one I can kind of see some sense in it, Yuzuha's excuse was that usual one that I honestly can't buy. Touka wanted his kid too, but for someone who has been acting in a way as if she has cast aside her womanhood it is a strange thing to do. Urutori was a moment of weakness, but again I don't think that we needed a h-scene there. Kamyu...lol yeah that was seriously just rape. I didn't so much have a problem with them as I felt that we could've done better without these h-scenes and let the game go on sale for all age instead of 18+. T-M hardly builds things around h-scenes, but in general they have h-scenes that make more sense to me rather than "Well, we need some hot stuff around this time, let's throw in some sex"
Well, she even gave her soul to him, so I don't know, makes sense to me. As I said, Touka wanted to serve him in any possible way and even though she didn't see herself as a woman, she did it. Of course it wasn't necessary, but this is a visual novel and that stuff happens all the time. Urutori lost "her" child and to compensate for it, she wanted to do something related to it(and to comfort herself as well). Realistically speaking, such events wouldn't happen but this isn't reality and those h-scenes were far from random and not confusing. If you play Tears of Tiara...you will see a huge difference.
And don't try and start a discussion when I'm tired, that sucks for me
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The Utawarerumono h-scenes were spontaneous. The end. Didn't they all come within 5 minutes of each other, too? Hahah.
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On February 21 2011 05:32 TimeOut wrote:Saikano has a few good scenes, an interesting theme with terrible execution and the hilariously worst sex scene I've ever seen. It is still a pretty sad story, but I couldn't stop laughing at that sex scene. Edit: + Show Spoiler [Saikano] +At least the scenes where Chise is in her weapon form are great. Especially when she narrates her letters to Shuuji.
"Are you satisfied with your little war? It looks like it is my turn now."
*Energy wings, everybody dies*
"Shuu-chan, I've destroyed another city today."
So, is it rather good/bad or average? Well, it's only 13 episodes. Do the love polygon and ecchi matter? I'm not really into such things.
On February 21 2011 05:33 Southlight wrote:
Last Exile and Phantom were good. Last Exile in particular was one of my high school goodies.
SnO I'd advise against.
Last Exile: Ginyoku no Fam was announced and I'm unsure whether I should wait for it or not. "Relations: Other" isn't helping in that aspect. It's apparently a TV series but no sequel/prequel it seems. I didn't inform myself about it so far. Yeah, that looks interesting, gonna have to watch "the other Phantom" as well(Boogiepop Phantom).
Why that? I actually like sports anime and since it's seinen and a thriller, it seemed very promising.
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On February 21 2011 05:49 Southlight wrote:
The Utawarerumono h-scenes were spontaneous. The end. Didn't they all come within 5 minutes of each other, too? Hahah.
Lol, stop bashing those scenes...and no, they didn't come within 5 minutes of each other oO As I said, the h-scenes were connected to the story of each character. Of course, you can't compare it to F/SN because they had only 3 different girls and there were branching story lines. Utawarerumono had only a single one and for that it was well implemented. Play Tears of Tiara, honestly :-P What you said applies there, to 100%.
Example: When you buy a red thread, it leads to a sex scene...just because their fingers are connected that way. Or: There is some kind of gas or something at least which makes all women/girls horny and one girl looks like a boy, so she is super horny and it ends it with her having sex with the main character. One character is doing the laundry and the main character just does her from behind while she is working.
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I've played TtT, IIRC the H-scenes were spontaneous there, too.
SnO was okay but it tried to have both a mystery thriller and a shougi love story all in one, and it ends up doing a subpar job at both. However, I haven't watched the anime beyond two episodes, so maybe it did a better job than the manga.
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Lesson learned: Don't play visual novels that are not done by Type-Moon.
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On February 21 2011 05:52 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 05:32 TimeOut wrote:Saikano has a few good scenes, an interesting theme with terrible execution and the hilariously worst sex scene I've ever seen. It is still a pretty sad story, but I couldn't stop laughing at that sex scene. Edit: + Show Spoiler [Saikano] +At least the scenes where Chise is in her weapon form are great. Especially when she narrates her letters to Shuuji.
"Are you satisfied with your little war? It looks like it is my turn now."
*Energy wings, everybody dies*
"Shuu-chan, I've destroyed another city today." So, is it rather good/bad or average? Well, it's only 13 episodes. Do the love polygon and ecchi matter? I'm not really into such things.
I think it is pretty average, going towards good rather than bad. The story and themes are very interesting (and incredibly depressing), it is just that I feel the pacing is wrong and some of the characters are annoying. In the end there is so much tragedy and death packed into the small amount of episodes that it blends together.
The focus is far more on tragedy, death, destruction and war instead of "ecchi things", but there are still romantic scenes and implied sex scenes.
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