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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
February 16 2011 15:23 GMT
#14261
I really liked F/SN music. Am hoping other VNs have similar quality as well. Especially this:

+ Show Spoiler +


Anyways, FSN and Tsukihime have much more serious themes than what I expected. I suppose it isn't necessarily bad, but I don't know how a light VN would be so... How is Sharin no Kuni?

Guess I'll write a rant after completing Tsukihime as well.

Stuck.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:36:18
February 16 2011 15:29 GMT
#14262
On February 17 2011 00:22 Spazer wrote:
There's a reason why Charlotte is the fan favorite. And lol Houki. She is the worst pilot among the group bar none. The only reason she can keep up is because her suit is super OP.

This is kind of like a Naruto level of stupid plot armor. The series can't exist without us accepting Tabane as some overpowered being. Houki is Tabane's sister, Tabane will actually do things for Houki, therefore Houki will be overpowered no matter what as long as the series exists.

I'd accept that if Houki wasn't one of the most boring tsunderes ever, except she is pretty horrible as a character. Then you throw in the fact that whatever Tabane does will be out of reach for every other force in the world...meh. Bad tsundere getting thrown in my face by sheer force of plot is one of the worst experiences ever.

The only saving grace is that vol 2 had a pretty high concentration of Charlotte, hopefully I'll get more of that instead of Houki and Celicia.

Oh, and Celicia is so bad that her maid who gets around 10 lines in 3 pages is better than her, zzz.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 16 2011 15:38 GMT
#14263
Oh lord.
Rakkyo 5:
+ Show Spoiler +
Half of this stuff is standard nasuverse, which was explained briefly above but I can try to get into a bit more. The other half is the psychology/philosophy beauty that draws people to the novels, and what makes it really stand out from other standard-fare LNs IMO.

With regard to the nasuverse, to expound on the above, magi don't really... use the akasic record. From her own words, what they do is more comparable to using a lighter to create a flame - they just "fake" how the world works.

In 6, whether you've seen it or not, one of the crushing things personally was that one of the characters got shanked in the transition from the LN - realistically his claim to fame (aside from being a major plot device for Shiki) is how central a figure he is in the magus world, in that he's not a sorcerer, nor magus, and on top of that he has direct access to the akasic records. This is a rare, special gift, and is why this character was originally "taken in" by the church despite his lack of magical prowess, intended for "safe-keeping" (ie. eternal storage like storage of tissue samples for drug testing in sports), and then subsequently hunted down like crazy when he went on the run.

Each magus though has a "speciality" for trying to get to the Akasic Record. Touko, for example, is a puppet master, and tried to reach it by creating complete and utter copies of herself. This is ridiculous! you might think. Yes, but much to her chagrin (as she mentioned to Cornelius) multiple copies of herself didn't speed up the process. As she decided the pain in the ass of having to manage multiple copies of her own very awesome personality was too much, she sealed them away and set up a process where only one of her would be around at any given time. Her limits reached, she gave up on the hunt, which is again what shocks Cornelius, who cannot fathom (coming from an aristocratic, long lineage of magus with a proud history of Record Hunting). From a grand scheme of things, she tackled it from the "mind and body" angle.

In Araya's case, coming from his Buddhist background he tackled the soul of every person. He analyzed it, touched it, played with it, and got to the point where he could even discern the originating point from which each soul comes from. This is extremely, extremely close to the Record, you might even think. But this was his limit. And realizing his limit was reached, he grew desperate and depressed, and concocted one final plan, to try to grab the one lead he had - Shiki. Because as you know, the Shiki hunter bloodline does the taboo, and actually tinkers with the traditional formation of mind, body, and soul. Unbeknownst to them, what ends up happening is that they really fuck around with the Record, and come unbelievably close to the Record. For more, See Epilogue! But their lineage is quite famous in the magus circle. Araya puts one and one together to come to the logical and correct conclusion - that if he can access Shiki's soul, then can he access the Record.

His plan is incredibly thought out. He breaks Shiki's psyche, helps lead to SHIKI's death, strengthens the allure of her origin (nothingness - the want of destruction), and then captures her to take over her body and tap into the Record. He's agonizingly close. But what does him in are three hilarious coincidences.

First, despite being a renegade magus and monk, he's so brainwashed by magus "standards" that he decides entrapping Shiki in a magical field would be sufficient. Hence, "if you want to catch Shiki, you should imprison her in a block of concrete!"

Second, the conclusion isn't exactly correct. See Epilogue. His plan was set up for the wrong conclusion; it would never have worked.

Third, and somewhat more debatable, is that Shiki woke up, for reasons that are slightly... amusing. There's no admission of this, but See Epilogue and you'll probably get what I'm implying.

The end result is that Araya's plan gets foiled. The counterforce was at work. Touko then sadly remarks that maybe it was destined for Araya to forever fail, because he was named after a major buddhist principle... that runs counter to all of his staunch beliefs. Maybe, she remarks, the counterforce was in place ever since he was born.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:42:30
February 16 2011 15:41 GMT
#14264
On February 17 2011 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 101 and 102] +
WTF REINHARD IS SICK AGAIN?!

And that was pretty clever by Julian, to lure the Imperial Forces in like that. And Schenkopp used hax so that he could fire the Thor Hammer right after firing it a first time. : /

Reinhard's staff has gotten really sparse:

[image loading]
[image loading]

;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
His staff is more spread around than it is sparse. It was about that same size during Season 1 as well.


@IS: Cecilia pilots Strike Freedom, therefore she can't be a bad character.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:48:01
February 16 2011 15:45 GMT
#14265
Cecilia, there we go, that looks much more natural, at that the sound is right. I was about to start typing in katakana for the rest of this thread.

So bad~ but this is actually like average~ I wonder how much more rage will be generated when I catch up to all that I have downloaded. Only saving grace so far is that Charlotte and Laura tend to be together.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 16 2011 15:47 GMT
#14266
So you are reading the LNs, right? Do I ever get my Revolver Stake?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 16 2011 15:48 GMT
#14267
You'll get it by ep 8 or so I think.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 16 2011 15:49 GMT
#14268
Does she say anything like "No matter how thick your armor is, I only have to pierce it!" ?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
February 16 2011 15:55 GMT
#14269
On February 17 2011 00:49 Sentenal wrote:
Does she say anything like "No matter how thick your armor is, I only have to pierce it!" ?

I don't think this is the same soft spoken girl we're thinking of.

You know, it's ridiculous how many childhood friends Ichika runs into. 1? Okay. 2? Pushing it. 3? I guess the author ran out of ideas?
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:57:23
February 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#14270
Unfortunately no, she doesn't get any cool lines to go with it.

On February 17 2011 00:55 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:49 Sentenal wrote:
Does she say anything like "No matter how thick your armor is, I only have to pierce it!" ?

I don't think this is the same soft spoken girl we're thinking of.

You know, it's ridiculous how many childhood friends Ichika runs into. 1? Okay. 2? Pushing it. 3? I guess the author ran out of ideas?

Rin won't come into play till vol 5 or so, to be fair
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 16 2011 15:57 GMT
#14271
There's a third childhood friend introduced later in the LNs?

Is she a tsundere as well?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 16 2011 15:59 GMT
#14272
No love for my rant T_T
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
February 16 2011 16:01 GMT
#14273
On February 17 2011 00:59 Southlight wrote:
No love for my rant T_T

Your explanation was quite helpful but I just chose not to comment on it
REEBUH!!!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 16 2011 16:05 GMT
#14274
On February 17 2011 00:41 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 101 and 102] +
WTF REINHARD IS SICK AGAIN?!

And that was pretty clever by Julian, to lure the Imperial Forces in like that. And Schenkopp used hax so that he could fire the Thor Hammer right after firing it a first time. : /

Reinhard's staff has gotten really sparse:

[image loading]
[image loading]

;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
His staff is more spread around than it is sparse. It was about that same size during Season 1 as well.


+ Show Spoiler +
I watched the first two eps again.

And wtf. Merkatz was one of those retarded old admirals under Reinhard's command? And Fahrenheit was one of the admirals under Reinhard's command? And Reuental, Mittermeyer, and Oberstein were all in the same bar on Iserlohn?

And I thought it was funny how during the whole first episode, the Alliance is getting raped, and Yang and Attenborough are just like "This could have been avoided if you had just listened to us "
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 16 2011 16:13 GMT
#14275
On February 17 2011 00:49 Sentenal wrote:
Does she say anything like "No matter how thick your armor is, I only have to pierce it!" ?

Need moar Zankantou,
also, while stakes are nice it goes well with rifle play, and the power of love
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 16:21:03
February 16 2011 16:19 GMT
#14276
On February 17 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:41 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 101 and 102] +
WTF REINHARD IS SICK AGAIN?!

And that was pretty clever by Julian, to lure the Imperial Forces in like that. And Schenkopp used hax so that he could fire the Thor Hammer right after firing it a first time. : /

Reinhard's staff has gotten really sparse:

[image loading]
[image loading]

;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
His staff is more spread around than it is sparse. It was about that same size during Season 1 as well.


+ Show Spoiler +
I watched the first two eps again.

And wtf. Merkatz was one of those retarded old admirals under Reinhard's command? And Fahrenheit was one of the admirals under Reinhard's command? And Reuental, Mittermeyer, and Oberstein were all in the same bar on Iserlohn?

And I thought it was funny how during the whole first episode, the Alliance is getting raped, and Yang and Attenborough are just like "This could have been avoided if you had just listened to us "

+ Show Spoiler +
lol, IIRC I made some comment about that when I rewatched the early episodes back when you guys started as well. I was like "wtf Merkatz and Fahrenheit were there?" They actually get a few lines in Overture to a New War.

If you guys rewatched it now, you would be like "Hey, there is Count Marindorf!" or "Sup Hilda, cool subtle intro", and things like that.

If you are going to rewatch the first two episodes, you REALLY should watch the Overture to a New War. Its episodes 1+2+tons more content+much more pretty.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 16 2011 16:20 GMT
#14277
On February 17 2011 01:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:41 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 101 and 102] +
WTF REINHARD IS SICK AGAIN?!

And that was pretty clever by Julian, to lure the Imperial Forces in like that. And Schenkopp used hax so that he could fire the Thor Hammer right after firing it a first time. : /

Reinhard's staff has gotten really sparse:

[image loading]
[image loading]

;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
His staff is more spread around than it is sparse. It was about that same size during Season 1 as well.


+ Show Spoiler +
I watched the first two eps again.

And wtf. Merkatz was one of those retarded old admirals under Reinhard's command? And Fahrenheit was one of the admirals under Reinhard's command? And Reuental, Mittermeyer, and Oberstein were all in the same bar on Iserlohn?

And I thought it was funny how during the whole first episode, the Alliance is getting raped, and Yang and Attenborough are just like "This could have been avoided if you had just listened to us "

+ Show Spoiler +
lol, IIRC I made some comment about that when I rewatched the early episodes back when you guys started as well. I was like "wtf Merkatz and Fahrenheit were there?" They actually get a few lines in Overture to a New War.

If you are going to rewatch the first two episodes, you REALLY should watch the Overture to a New War. Its episodes 1+2+tons more content+much more pretty.


I plan to start the side stories and movies when we finish the original series.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 16 2011 16:22 GMT
#14278
On February 17 2011 01:20 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 01:19 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:41 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 101 and 102] +
WTF REINHARD IS SICK AGAIN?!

And that was pretty clever by Julian, to lure the Imperial Forces in like that. And Schenkopp used hax so that he could fire the Thor Hammer right after firing it a first time. : /

Reinhard's staff has gotten really sparse:

[image loading]
[image loading]

;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
His staff is more spread around than it is sparse. It was about that same size during Season 1 as well.


+ Show Spoiler +
I watched the first two eps again.

And wtf. Merkatz was one of those retarded old admirals under Reinhard's command? And Fahrenheit was one of the admirals under Reinhard's command? And Reuental, Mittermeyer, and Oberstein were all in the same bar on Iserlohn?

And I thought it was funny how during the whole first episode, the Alliance is getting raped, and Yang and Attenborough are just like "This could have been avoided if you had just listened to us "

+ Show Spoiler +
lol, IIRC I made some comment about that when I rewatched the early episodes back when you guys started as well. I was like "wtf Merkatz and Fahrenheit were there?" They actually get a few lines in Overture to a New War.

If you are going to rewatch the first two episodes, you REALLY should watch the Overture to a New War. Its episodes 1+2+tons more content+much more pretty.


I plan to start the side stories and movies when we finish the original series.

I recommend doing the two non-Golden Wings movies, then the Gaidens.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 16 2011 16:23 GMT
#14279
On February 17 2011 01:22 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 01:20 Ferrose wrote:
On February 17 2011 01:19 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:41 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 101 and 102] +
WTF REINHARD IS SICK AGAIN?!

And that was pretty clever by Julian, to lure the Imperial Forces in like that. And Schenkopp used hax so that he could fire the Thor Hammer right after firing it a first time. : /

Reinhard's staff has gotten really sparse:

[image loading]
[image loading]

;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
His staff is more spread around than it is sparse. It was about that same size during Season 1 as well.


+ Show Spoiler +
I watched the first two eps again.

And wtf. Merkatz was one of those retarded old admirals under Reinhard's command? And Fahrenheit was one of the admirals under Reinhard's command? And Reuental, Mittermeyer, and Oberstein were all in the same bar on Iserlohn?

And I thought it was funny how during the whole first episode, the Alliance is getting raped, and Yang and Attenborough are just like "This could have been avoided if you had just listened to us "

+ Show Spoiler +
lol, IIRC I made some comment about that when I rewatched the early episodes back when you guys started as well. I was like "wtf Merkatz and Fahrenheit were there?" They actually get a few lines in Overture to a New War.

If you are going to rewatch the first two episodes, you REALLY should watch the Overture to a New War. Its episodes 1+2+tons more content+much more pretty.


I plan to start the side stories and movies when we finish the original series.

I recommend doing the two non-Golden Wings movies, then the Gaidens.


You don't recommend Death Star Iserlohn?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 16 2011 16:28 GMT
#14280
On February 17 2011 00:57 Ferrose wrote:
There's a third childhood friend introduced later in the LNs?

Is she a tsundere as well?

I thought she got introduced in like episode 2 of the animes already, something like that. The sister of that friend of Ichika's.
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