Anime Discussion Thread - Page 6424

The first route is the one where both Mion and Rena go off the hook after our MC starts digging around to the point where they end up essentially threatening him constantly then inject him with something at the end. He kills them both then dies from blood loss after claiming to see Oijushi-sama. Then the next route shows that Mion apparently has a sister called Shion (out of the blue really) and also has a demon within. The demon is let loose after something our MC did (quite silly actually, he just gave a doll to Rena) and she ends up killing both Satoshi and Rikka as well as torture Shion. Eventually she admits to this and being someone who played a role in all deaths so far. She decides to not kill the MC and escapes, but somehow she's found dead in a well, but then she is still apparently alive and presumably kills the MC etc...

Rena being crazy for Oijushi-sama, Satoshi having an older brother who left (one of the routes spoke of her being abused and her brother killing the abuser), Mion having an interesting background etc...

there is a time loop going on

What with the MC dying in 2/3 arcs (he supposedly survived the gas one). Essentially, this is what I got around the time I started the answer arcs: that someone is committing the murders likely to maintain the worship of Oyashiro-sama and that it's quite likely the three families with Sonozaki family being at the head of it all. I felt like they made this quite clear somewhat in those arcs. Also, the swamp or w/e where Kei dumped Satoko's uncle's bike after he killed him might have a role since they talked about some gas killing all the residents in the third arc (or was it second) and its name too (ogre swamp or w/e). On top of that, something to do with people being ogres. That's as far as I went though.

Gas or w/e? -> people become like ogres (violent)? -> people killed? (three families) -> somehow related to Oyashiro-sama worship altogether and of course, the history of the town (made clear in the second arc).

Also, I could fit somewhat everything together except Rena. Came out of nowhere and apparently saw Oyashiro-sama which is why she moved back. Likewise, they showed that she was hiding something in the first episode, but i could never figure out how her seeing Oyashiro-sama fit the idea that he is infact a doctor or w/e that the answer arcs alluded to.

Shion just went batshit insane from her usual upbeat self and then proceeds to kill Yoyou, Kimiyoshi, Rika (well, technically suicide), torturing Satoko to death and mentally scarring Mion for life before throwing her over the edge. Then finally killing Keichii but falling and dying herself. Was so unexpected. When they showed this in another arc, it made it seem like Mion actually survived and was the one who went insane.

takao being stuffed into a barrel and immolated? what? that came out of left field too. I'm still not sure how that plays a role aside from just a random curse+murder pair with Tomitake.

also remembered the part where Kei remembers that he killed Rena and Mion which means that what, this took in a separate timeline or alternate universe but he somehow has knowledge of it. Rika also confirmed this somewhat with her next comment so this was confusing lol.

All the different arcs are different loops of the same event. They are actually time looping, but they have the same mastermind/cause for the murders.

I think you are talking about Meakashi where they reveal that Shion is actually the one who goes crazy in Watanagashi. Things occur slightly differently for those 2 arcs, but this is really the part where they start showing you the answers to the mystery. Here you find out that Mion never goes crazy, it's actually Shion who does. Just keep watching and see if you are right about your guesses. That's really the fun part about Higurashi and Umineko, making guesses and see if you are correct.

The first episode was intentionally done that way to deceive the audience to think that we are still in Onikakushi. That is why they reveal in the second episode that we are in "Onidamashi" which means Ogre Deception."Deception", get it? The author is intentionally playing you to make you think it's the same scenario.

Rule Y has been broken with Tomitake not dying, but going missing instead. The question is who was responsible for the change? Did Rika or Rena or someone else do something different to change things like killing Takano Miyo and rescuing Tomitake? Or was that a natural occurrence caused by a change in the game board introduced by Featherine?

Charon is so cool it's easy to forget that he's an insane murderer who casually cut one of Inca's friends in half with his hand.

People going crazy is the work of Hinamizawa Syndrome which is a parasite that can only survive in Hinamizawa. This is the cause of Oyashiro-sama's curse. When people leave Hinamizawa for a long time, it activates the parasite and causes people to hallucinate. There are a couple other things that activate it, but I forgot. This is why Rena was forced to move back to Hinamizawa when she started hallucinating about Oyashiro-sama.

I don't remember specifically how they handled it in the anime, but Tsumihoroboshi should've covered that. That is why Rika was trying to inject Shion (in her arc) and Rena with some strange medicine. She was trying to save them, but due to their hallucinations, they thought she was doing something weird and tried to kill her.

For the gas, at the end of each arc, the official news is that Hinamizawa was destroyed by volcanic gas.

What was the point of the flower story?

The flower bit was a bit odd, but an act of kindness that spiraled out of control. You could argue just how much involvement she had and how much should she have helped, whether the guard who was affected by her flower bouquet or in regards to the flower field etc... The second story about Nino is probably the most thought provoking one imo because it's not a black and white situation when you consider the country she's in, their laws as well as who our MC is as well as her own duties and promises to her parents etc... I could write more, but I'd rather be an observer in this case ^^

Also, link between the first and second story: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1870322&show=350#msg60953404

I'm actually okay with the second half of the episode. Her involvement, or lack thereof, is fine.

My main complaint is that I think presentation and setup for the flower story sucked, and the payoff wasn't worth the time they spent on it. Like... we learn about the nature of the flowers then it cuts straight to the guy in the field. Felt awfully rushed. To me this is the kind of direction that kills the tone of a show.

I read the relevant manga chapter afterwards and it fleshed out the details a fair bit more. Dunno what the LN does.

ok, that's fair. That seems to be the common complaint regarding the flower story overall. It was rushed and somethings could have handled it differently. I personally agree though I'll have to rewatch it again to see how much better it could've been.