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goody153

44272 Posts

April 07 2018 04:29 GMT

#125361

On April 07 2018 05:25 Slaughter wrote:
Wait Destiny was popular? I guess only in JP? I really have only seen it panned by westerners.

Well at least gundam seed was popular so to the extension destiny was popular ?

Unleashing

Denmark14978 Posts

April 07 2018 08:51 GMT

#125362

Oh yeah worth mentioning here, the first bnha episode for season 3 is a recap episode, the real episode 1 begins next week.

The new OP is sick though, but also kind of spoilery, watch it if you don't care.

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES50907 Posts

April 07 2018 09:38 GMT

#125363

On April 07 2018 17:51 Unleashing wrote:
Oh yeah worth mentioning here, the first bnha episode for season 3 is a recap episode, the real episode 1 begins next week.

The new OP is sick though, but also kind of spoilery, watch it if you don't care.

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does it have US of SMASH?

Unleashing

Denmark14978 Posts

April 07 2018 10:02 GMT

#125364

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

April 07 2018 13:39 GMT

#125365

Got about 4 episodes of Violet Evergarden left. Really enjoying it so far. The fighting is prob the worst part so far since it's the most "anime" out of it all. Hard to describe.+ Show Spoiler +

The whole 10 year old prodigy child soldier thing is.. dumb but I can kind of just accept it as a backdrop if the consequences of that are the real focus instead of showing her in the act of being that child soldier. So while ep 8 was really touching seeing her relationship with Gilbert the fighting scenes took me a bit out of the show.

Anyway I hear there was a lot of anger around the show people dissing it. Assume that must have been from people wanting something different. Since what's shown is really nice so far. The episode with the playwright made me tear up so badly. Losing a daughter while cliched is just arg, I'll never not cry to that :<

I'm not sure if I should spoiler stuff. I'll just do it anyway.

ZerOCoolSC2

9055 Posts

April 07 2018 16:49 GMT

#125366

Franxx with the best episode yet. Really good backstory and the ending is just amazing.

BNHA was good even for a recap episode. Not mad about that in the least.

Giving Devils Line a watch now. Looked interesting. 3 ep rule is in effect for this one.

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

April 07 2018 17:29 GMT

#125367

Franxx really was great this week.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

April 07 2018 19:39 GMT

#125368

yeah Fraxx really carried hard this week

goody153

44272 Posts

April 07 2018 20:13 GMT

#125369

Now I have to watch franxx this week

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

April 07 2018 20:34 GMT

#125370

Alright. This episode of Franxx upgraded it from just an interesting show to an interesting and legitimate good show.

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts

April 07 2018 20:36 GMT

#125371

decent adaption for persona 5 so far, hopefully they can keep it up.
also that new lyn song hrrrrnghh

Odowan Paleolithic

United States232 Posts

April 07 2018 20:51 GMT

#125372

On April 07 2018 04:52 Sentenal wrote:

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On April 07 2018 04:51 Odowan Paleolithic wrote:

On April 07 2018 03:43 Nezgar wrote:
I'm at a bit of a loss when it comes to LOGH. I have watched the first episode of the remake and it reminded me of why exactly I dropped the original after just 2 episodes.

Everything about that first battle and the characters involved and the dialogue just feel absolutely wrong. Nothing makes any sense to me.
Just looking at the strategical element of that battle, it's a giant clusterfuck. Apparently one side can out-scan the other side, block their communication, fire from a greater distance, move significantly faster, win a 20k vs 12k battle within seconds and intercept their communication while the other side... just watches and dies? If this is a representation of the relative strengths of their technology and strategic understanding, why is there a 100+ episode series about their war against each other when it's so blatantly obvious how far ahead one side really is. I could go into much more detail as to how both sides went full retard with the "we will surround them" - "no, we will thwart their plans by attacking first" kind of nonsense.
Apparently spaceships behave like regular ships or cavalry and need to have a wide arc in order to turn around and face attacks from the rear instead of... you know, just turn around on the spot like you'd be able to in a spaceship thanks to thrusters?
The dialogue is as cliche as it can get. At least in the remake they did away with messenger boys running errands with handwritten stuff on a piece of paper as their main form of communication on a star-faring battleship. Still it feels incredibly stiff and I had the same feeling when I tried to watch the original a few years ago.

And this is just scratching the surface here. Almost every single scene was... simply not good. I had a hard time convincing myself that if the writers and directors did such a poor job with the opening of story, it would somehow transform into this perfect and epic space saga that rightfully deserves to be called one of the very best series ever made.

What am I missing here? What changes later down the line and how?

First, I'll link the reddit post (not from me) that explains some of the pseudo-physics. If you want just a tad more realistic sci-fi (still very soft) I suggest Starship operators.

I have watched the original OVA more than 1 time and trying to finish up the 3 movies. I rewatched episode 1.5 from original OVA the day after I watched the remake. Due to the remake being condensed a few scenes have been "lost" at the moment and I am puzzled how they are going to fix the plot holes that is going to appear later on. Also the original has obviously more dialogue than battles that somewhat explains the whys and hows better (and how long the space battle actually last, casualties, strategic meeting in between).

Now the specifics, the battles are not decided on seconds (I do not know if the new series going to keep omitting dates a and time). The OVA somewhat solved this problem by showing pilot conversations and officers go on their daily routine. Neither side can completely "out-scan" each other. This is true in any RTS or strategy-related media. I only get to know recently that the intelligence is gathered via scouts. As for blocking communication, I believe the federation did it later in the series against the Empire. + Show Spoiler +

Correct me if I am wrong, I rewatched ova though this "Jamming" situation not shown. The 3 fleet were simply too far away for any meaning for coordination if not already arranged.

Their technology were quite similar at least when the Battle of Astarte begins.

The ships can turn around to change direction of facing in same place without changing heading (which may or may not be advantageous). You should see that in Episode 2 if they didn't completely remove the minor scenes.

I cannot comment on the dialogue since I believe this is too early to be comparable given how much dialogue were as just skipped compared to the OVA.

The strength of the OVA was the portrayal of political maneuvers and character variety, not necessarily the battle scenes. The remake seemed to added a lot more battle scenes and did away with the minor plots (original from OVA) which I can't blame.

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Out of curiosity, what "lost" scenes are you referring to? Yang scenes?

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Until the 2nd PV I thought they are just going to forgo Lapp et al. So far we never saw a shot of Annerose, Phezzan or Iserlohn. The omitted "There is no need to dream during the war."

TheEmulator

28100 Posts

April 07 2018 21:10 GMT

#125373

On April 08 2018 05:36 ShiaoPi wrote:
decent adaption for persona 5 so far, hopefully they can keep it up.
also that new lyn song hrrrrnghh

I need to finish my play through of the game I guess.

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

April 07 2018 22:45 GMT

#125374

So last episode of Violet Evergarden

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Did the letter her boss wrote imply that Cattleya is pregnant?

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

April 07 2018 23:04 GMT

#125375

Just finished Violet Evergarden. Only thought I have is. Fuck you Kyoani. Not watching another show of yours ever. I hope you live long loveless lives

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

April 07 2018 23:41 GMT

#125376

On April 08 2018 07:45 Slaughter wrote:
So last episode of Violet Evergarden

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Did the letter her boss wrote imply that Cattleya is pregnant?

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No. I don't even think Hodgins is in a romantic relationship with Cattleya. Seems to me that it's just KyoAni/author's way of saying he wants to settle down finally after war life and take the next step of starting a family (and having a daughter). So like one of the major subplots with the show, people write onto paper their hopes and dreams.

On April 08 2018 08:04 Numy wrote:
Just finished Violet Evergarden. Only thought I have is. Fuck you Kyoani. Not watching another show of yours ever. I hope you live long loveless lives

Such mad.
You make it sound like you hated the show. zz

Miragee

8660 Posts

April 07 2018 23:44 GMT

#125377

He just hated the ending. 99,99% because it hurt his feelings. Haven't watched the show past ep1. Is it worth it? Thought ep1 was kinda boring and mediocre.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

April 07 2018 23:45 GMT

#125378

On April 08 2018 08:04 Numy wrote:
Just finished Violet Evergarden. Only thought I have is. Fuck you Kyoani. Not watching another show of yours ever. I hope you live long loveless lives

I told you. You never listen to me. Fuck KyoAni

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

April 07 2018 23:52 GMT

#125379

On April 08 2018 08:45 Toadesstern wrote:

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I told you. You never listen to me. Fuck KyoAni

Never listen to Toad.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

April 07 2018 23:52 GMT

#125380

On April 08 2018 08:44 Miragee wrote:
He just hated the ending. 99,99% because it hurt his feelings. Haven't watched the show past ep1. Is it worth it? Thought ep1 was kinda boring and mediocre.

I enjoyed it. It's very slow and mostly just follows different one shot characters stories. Reminds me a lot of Kobato. If you like that kind of thing then you'll like this but otherwise prob not your show.

The ending is mostly just annoying. Sullies a bit of the good work the show did earlier. Partly due to the ending thrusting a part of the show I didn't enjoy in the first place into the spotlight for tension and partly it leaves certain elements in a state of flux.

I'd say just watch episode 10 after watching the first 2 then see if you want more. You don't really need much context for most of the mini-stories.

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