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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 19 2018 05:11 GMT
#124941
As as casual mecha guy I wouldn't know how much of this is a good breakdown or not. I did enjoy it though.

Never Knows Best.
ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 06:17:51
March 19 2018 06:12 GMT
#124942
Gigguk is the anime analyst we don't deserve and didn't know we wanted. His videos are an inspiration to a generation of dedicated anime fans.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 06:29:10
March 19 2018 06:28 GMT
#124943
I don't disagree with too much with the video, except for the latter portions. Like the sections about 2000+ I don't necessarily agree with. Calling the 2000s the "modern golden age" is just weird. TTGL and Code Geass were aberrations of popularity of the era. If you are just talking about decline in overall popularity, the genre's last hurrah was probably Gundam SEED, and the 90s were its last "golden age". Its just weird to call the 2000s a "golden age" defined by TTGL and Code Geass, when after them there was a significant drop in good things coming out of the genre.

The guy does have SOME good points about why in modern times, the genre isn't as popular, but to blame its lack of popularity almost entirely on things like societal values/difficulty of production/etc isn't addressing the actual reason. The actual reason is that outside a handful gems (hello MJP), there is just a lack of quality in TV anime mecha now days. They almost all suck. Like Gundam IBO was a boring piece of shit. AGE sucked. They weren't unpopular because of how the anime landscape is now days. They were unpopular because they were shitty. And thats all it comes down to.

And if Darling in the FranXX is the future of Mecha anime, maybe the genre should die, because god damn, FranXX sucks. Good thing FMP is returning and Gundam Build Fighters is a thing, so maybe we can get back to having some good shows again.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
March 19 2018 07:10 GMT
#124944
I'm not disagreeing with your general point Sent but consider that TV is lacking quality in general and lots of garbage is quite popular.
ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 07:38:18
March 19 2018 07:36 GMT
#124945
On March 19 2018 15:28 Sentenal wrote:
The guy does have SOME good points about why in modern times, the genre isn't as popular, but to blame its lack of popularity almost entirely on things like societal values/difficulty of production/etc isn't addressing the actual reason. The actual reason is that outside a handful gems (hello MJP), there is just a lack of quality in TV anime mecha now days. They almost all suck. Like Gundam IBO was a boring piece of shit. AGE sucked. They weren't unpopular because of how the anime landscape is now days. They were unpopular because they were shitty. And thats all it comes down to.

I thought this too but it's kind of circular logic. 'They suck because they suck' vs. 'They suck because societal values changed.' There are still half a dozen mech anime made per year but none of them could be described as masterpieces. Trying to pinpoint a reason on the relative drop in popularity and quality of mech anime could be considered a daunting task. While Gigguk's hypothesis of modern Japan being peaceful leading to mech anime getting worse could be considered one of the causes, this also raises the debate of correlation vs. causation and issues like what this state of reality really is. Why couldn't there be a single genius director or studio with passion and dedication who make another revolutionary anime with mechas? But then again would a single anime be able to fight against the meta trend that is isekai? Stay tuned next time to find out on the next episode of TLADT!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 08:19:14
March 19 2018 08:18 GMT
#124946
I think the last mecha series I enjoyed was Knights of Sidonia, and that was mostly just the manga (tho that shit ending though).

I am enjoying Franxx tho so I am a mecha pleb I guess *shrug* but if they pay off on all their world building the series should be quite good by the end of it.

I'm also an Isekai guy so lool.
Never Knows Best.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 19 2018 10:03 GMT
#124947
I don't know about mecha declining so much as Western audiences not being as into it. There's still mecha almost every season in Japan.

Western viewing habits tend to form around the conversation rather than the show. Mecha just need to meme more and they'll be fine :D
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
March 19 2018 10:30 GMT
#124948
i sincerely hope that franxx was as "meme" as mecha will go in the future.
I don't believe you.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 11:54:51
March 19 2018 11:54 GMT
#124949
On March 19 2018 12:38 Slaughter wrote:
Akari in that sweater and buff af Rei lol.

they're all super weird.

Hinata is on the left as Diva from Overwatch,
Rei is probably a Jojo reference
and like you said Akari in that sweater

On March 19 2018 19:30 abuse wrote:
i sincerely hope that franxx was as "meme" as mecha will go in the future.

[image loading]
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 19 2018 13:23 GMT
#124950
On March 19 2018 16:10 Miragee wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with your general point Sent but consider that TV is lacking quality in general and lots of garbage is quite popular.

I guess Mecha just has a higher standard, given its history, I dunno lol

On March 19 2018 17:18 Slaughter wrote:
I think the last mecha series I enjoyed was Knights of Sidonia, and that was mostly just the manga (tho that shit ending though).

I am enjoying Franxx tho so I am a mecha pleb I guess *shrug* but if they pay off on all their world building the series should be quite good by the end of it.

I'm also an Isekai guy so lool.

Given Isekai's popularity, I'm surprised the video didn't do mention anything about Mecha not only inventing Idol Anime, but inventing Isekai anime lol

On March 19 2018 16:36 ShurykaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2018 15:28 Sentenal wrote:
The guy does have SOME good points about why in modern times, the genre isn't as popular, but to blame its lack of popularity almost entirely on things like societal values/difficulty of production/etc isn't addressing the actual reason. The actual reason is that outside a handful gems (hello MJP), there is just a lack of quality in TV anime mecha now days. They almost all suck. Like Gundam IBO was a boring piece of shit. AGE sucked. They weren't unpopular because of how the anime landscape is now days. They were unpopular because they were shitty. And thats all it comes down to.

I thought this too but it's kind of circular logic. 'They suck because they suck' vs. 'They suck because societal values changed.' There are still half a dozen mech anime made per year but none of them could be described as masterpieces. Trying to pinpoint a reason on the relative drop in popularity and quality of mech anime could be considered a daunting task. While Gigguk's hypothesis of modern Japan being peaceful leading to mech anime getting worse could be considered one of the causes, this also raises the debate of correlation vs. causation and issues like what this state of reality really is. Why couldn't there be a single genius director or studio with passion and dedication who make another revolutionary anime with mechas? But then again would a single anime be able to fight against the meta trend that is isekai? Stay tuned next time to find out on the next episode of TLADT!

I kind of feel like because Sunrise just doesn't know wtf they are doing now days. Look at the majority of Mecha they've made recently: Valvrave, Cross Ange, Buddy Complex, Gundam AGE, Gundam IBO. Even one I'm positive on, G-Reco, is not without its share of issues. Really I think there just needs to be a show that is good, with a good budget and a good amount of hype behind it. And unfortunately, the "bigger" names coming out recently have been able to nail maybe two out of three.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 19 2018 13:26 GMT
#124951


Vinland saga anime announced

\o/
Guess i can't complain about a lack of danes in anime anymore
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-19 21:28:58
March 19 2018 21:18 GMT
#124952
The latest Takagi-san episode was probably one of the best. That hit, well timed! + Show Spoiler +
I didn't think I'll ever see Takagi actually make that face at all! wow.


edit: I enjoyed buddy complex though the whole time thing had issues! As for the whole trend, even though I enjoyed FranXX at the start, I don't enjoy it as much. The mech aren't really interesting compared to the gundam ones. Macross also feels like it went downhill somewhat with the recent delta feeling worse than frontier.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-20 07:37:29
March 20 2018 07:34 GMT
#124953
Excited about Vinland saga.

Takagi is a goddess, it is known.
Critical hits are terrifying.
I don't believe you.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 20 2018 18:18 GMT
#124954
Anyone hyped for the new FLCL?

ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
March 20 2018 19:07 GMT
#124955
On March 21 2018 03:18 eviltomahawk wrote:
Anyone hyped for the new FLCL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lleTz_DQTh4



holy shit !!!
Bora Pain minha porra!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 20 2018 20:45 GMT
#124956
God Damnit Miura.
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
March 21 2018 00:08 GMT
#124957
Honestly, I have more faith in the soundtrack than the actual show.
Liquipedia
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 21 2018 03:34 GMT
#124958
Is there no japanese dub? the narrators voice is way too nasally for me
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 21 2018 03:40 GMT
#124959
On March 21 2018 12:34 Shock710 wrote:
Is there no japanese dub? the narrators voice is way too nasally for me

There is one, but it's coming out after the English dub apparently.

Their trailer looks better too

ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
March 21 2018 04:12 GMT
#124960
Not sure how hyped I am about that because the first one was rather mediocre.
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