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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
February 19 2016 14:28 GMT
#110721
On February 19 2016 23:05 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2016 22:57 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zeta Gundam ep9] +
Everyone is slapping Kamille, lol. I mean, he kinda deserves it, but not for the reasons they gave.

Another thing that struck me: How comes nobody covers their communication channels. Everyone can listen to everyone in their suits. o.O

I'm looking forward to the moment Emma realises that Lieutenant Quattro is Char.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you finish Zeta Gundam, on youtube look up "Zeta Gundam Slap Montage"

I can't remember exactly what you are talking about, but in general, normally the only time you can communicate Mobile Suit-to-Mobile Suit is either when out of combat, or when direct contact between Mobile Suits is established. Otherwise Minovsky Particles disrupt communication too much of anything intelligible to get through. So maybe there just isn't a pressing need for any more security to their communication channels.

+ Show Spoiler +
They often talk to eachother when this doesn't happen though. Sometimes it's because they're both newtypes I think but more often it's for the plot I guess.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 19 2016 14:35 GMT
#110722
On February 19 2016 23:28 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2016 23:05 Sentenal wrote:
On February 19 2016 22:57 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zeta Gundam ep9] +
Everyone is slapping Kamille, lol. I mean, he kinda deserves it, but not for the reasons they gave.

Another thing that struck me: How comes nobody covers their communication channels. Everyone can listen to everyone in their suits. o.O

I'm looking forward to the moment Emma realises that Lieutenant Quattro is Char.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you finish Zeta Gundam, on youtube look up "Zeta Gundam Slap Montage"

I can't remember exactly what you are talking about, but in general, normally the only time you can communicate Mobile Suit-to-Mobile Suit is either when out of combat, or when direct contact between Mobile Suits is established. Otherwise Minovsky Particles disrupt communication too much of anything intelligible to get through. So maybe there just isn't a pressing need for any more security to their communication channels.

+ Show Spoiler +
They often talk to eachother when this doesn't happen though. Sometimes it's because they're both newtypes I think but more often it's for the plot I guess.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember the early UC shows being pretty consistent about communicating with Minovsky Particles, like firing a wire between each others mobile suits to communicate, or getting in close and touching someone else's mobile suit to talk to them. Granted, its been a while so I can't exactly remember specific circumstances.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
February 19 2016 14:36 GMT
#110723
On February 19 2016 23:05 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2016 22:57 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zeta Gundam ep9] +
Everyone is slapping Kamille, lol. I mean, he kinda deserves it, but not for the reasons they gave.

Another thing that struck me: How comes nobody covers their communication channels. Everyone can listen to everyone in their suits. o.O

I'm looking forward to the moment Emma realises that Lieutenant Quattro is Char.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you finish Zeta Gundam, on youtube look up "Zeta Gundam Slap Montage"

I can't remember exactly what you are talking about, but in general, normally the only time you can communicate Mobile Suit-to-Mobile Suit is either when out of combat, or when direct contact between Mobile Suits is established. Otherwise Minovsky Particles disrupt communication too much of anything intelligible to get through. So maybe there just isn't a pressing need for any more security to their communication channels.


+ Show Spoiler +
hah, I'll keep that in mind.^^

Hm, one example from the last episode: Emma was in her Mobile Suit shouting commands etc. and Capricorn was like "Hey, I know that voice, that's Emma! How dare you to fight your own kind!?". Maybe it's like you said and they could only hear each other because they were close enough. But still, shouldn't they cover regardless to prevent the enemy from eavesdroping into their on-battlefield tactical conversations?
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-19 17:49:35
February 19 2016 17:49 GMT
#110724
On February 19 2016 23:36 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2016 23:05 Sentenal wrote:
On February 19 2016 22:57 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zeta Gundam ep9] +
Everyone is slapping Kamille, lol. I mean, he kinda deserves it, but not for the reasons they gave.

Another thing that struck me: How comes nobody covers their communication channels. Everyone can listen to everyone in their suits. o.O

I'm looking forward to the moment Emma realises that Lieutenant Quattro is Char.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you finish Zeta Gundam, on youtube look up "Zeta Gundam Slap Montage"

I can't remember exactly what you are talking about, but in general, normally the only time you can communicate Mobile Suit-to-Mobile Suit is either when out of combat, or when direct contact between Mobile Suits is established. Otherwise Minovsky Particles disrupt communication too much of anything intelligible to get through. So maybe there just isn't a pressing need for any more security to their communication channels.


+ Show Spoiler +
hah, I'll keep that in mind.^^

Hm, one example from the last episode: Emma was in her Mobile Suit shouting commands etc. and Capricorn was like "Hey, I know that voice, that's Emma! How dare you to fight your own kind!?". Maybe it's like you said and they could only hear each other because they were close enough. But still, shouldn't they cover regardless to prevent the enemy from eavesdroping into their on-battlefield tactical conversations?


+ Show Spoiler +
Guys is just naked chat room being the most high tech communication in gundam universe and it is the true power of newtypes
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
February 19 2016 18:00 GMT
#110725
Boku Dake ga Inai Machi#42, damn, thats it. next chapter is the final chapter. damn.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty gay #42, such love. so it is a fujoshi manga afterall......
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 19 2016 18:57 GMT
#110726
jo emnjay, just got home and I will be away for a couple hours. So can't GATE atm...
Still kinda stressed out atm so either watch when I get back which will be in around 5 hours or we'll have to postpone that until sunday my time due to finals & birthday organizations. Sorry
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
February 19 2016 20:13 GMT
#110727
Lol Dagashi continuing to be so good. All their facial expressions are really spot on!

@Toad. It's all good. I need to head out to open lab to study anyways. Have a good birthday weekend o/
Skol
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 19 2016 21:13 GMT
#110728
On February 20 2016 03:00 BurningSera wrote:
Boku Dake ga Inai Machi#42, damn, thats it. next chapter is the final chapter. damn.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty gay #42, such love. so it is a fujoshi manga afterall......


+ Show Spoiler +
I have only read up until 39 but all I hear from people who comment on the series is whining about how all the ships are sinking lol. No MCxKayo or with Airi. Poor mc is going to have a bad time of it lol. Though the title could be suggestive of this.
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
February 19 2016 21:25 GMT
#110729
On February 20 2016 02:49 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2016 23:36 Miragee wrote:
On February 19 2016 23:05 Sentenal wrote:
On February 19 2016 22:57 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zeta Gundam ep9] +
Everyone is slapping Kamille, lol. I mean, he kinda deserves it, but not for the reasons they gave.

Another thing that struck me: How comes nobody covers their communication channels. Everyone can listen to everyone in their suits. o.O

I'm looking forward to the moment Emma realises that Lieutenant Quattro is Char.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you finish Zeta Gundam, on youtube look up "Zeta Gundam Slap Montage"

I can't remember exactly what you are talking about, but in general, normally the only time you can communicate Mobile Suit-to-Mobile Suit is either when out of combat, or when direct contact between Mobile Suits is established. Otherwise Minovsky Particles disrupt communication too much of anything intelligible to get through. So maybe there just isn't a pressing need for any more security to their communication channels.


+ Show Spoiler +
hah, I'll keep that in mind.^^

Hm, one example from the last episode: Emma was in her Mobile Suit shouting commands etc. and Capricorn was like "Hey, I know that voice, that's Emma! How dare you to fight your own kind!?". Maybe it's like you said and they could only hear each other because they were close enough. But still, shouldn't they cover regardless to prevent the enemy from eavesdroping into their on-battlefield tactical conversations?


+ Show Spoiler +
Guys is just naked chat room being the most high tech communication in gundam universe and it is the true power of newtypes


+ Show Spoiler +
Is Capricorn even a newtype?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 19 2016 22:20 GMT
#110730
GATE

+ Show Spoiler +
The prince isn't going to stop being an idiot until Japan has killed every single soldier in the empire is dead ~_~ Leilei with the casual claim to Itami loool. The fight was kinda cool too.
Never Knows Best.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
February 20 2016 02:32 GMT
#110731
90% of the reason I'm still watching Dagashi Kashi is because I really like Saya and hope her and the main character get together in the end somehow. Otherwise I'm meh on it atm.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
February 20 2016 02:44 GMT
#110732
Pretty sure mc won't end with any of them when the show ends.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 20 2016 02:54 GMT
#110733
all hope was lost on onee-san dreams last episode of GATE but this episode kinda made her good again. I like her
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
February 20 2016 03:28 GMT
#110734
On February 20 2016 11:32 Zooper31 wrote:
90% of the reason I'm still watching Dagashi Kashi is because I really like Saya and hope her and the main character get together in the end somehow. Otherwise I'm meh on it atm.

Sayashi gained mad points with me this last ep.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

dat face lol
Skol
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
February 20 2016 03:56 GMT
#110735
On February 20 2016 06:25 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2016 02:49 BurningSera wrote:
On February 19 2016 23:36 Miragee wrote:
On February 19 2016 23:05 Sentenal wrote:
On February 19 2016 22:57 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zeta Gundam ep9] +
Everyone is slapping Kamille, lol. I mean, he kinda deserves it, but not for the reasons they gave.

Another thing that struck me: How comes nobody covers their communication channels. Everyone can listen to everyone in their suits. o.O

I'm looking forward to the moment Emma realises that Lieutenant Quattro is Char.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you finish Zeta Gundam, on youtube look up "Zeta Gundam Slap Montage"

I can't remember exactly what you are talking about, but in general, normally the only time you can communicate Mobile Suit-to-Mobile Suit is either when out of combat, or when direct contact between Mobile Suits is established. Otherwise Minovsky Particles disrupt communication too much of anything intelligible to get through. So maybe there just isn't a pressing need for any more security to their communication channels.


+ Show Spoiler +
hah, I'll keep that in mind.^^

Hm, one example from the last episode: Emma was in her Mobile Suit shouting commands etc. and Capricorn was like "Hey, I know that voice, that's Emma! How dare you to fight your own kind!?". Maybe it's like you said and they could only hear each other because they were close enough. But still, shouldn't they cover regardless to prevent the enemy from eavesdroping into their on-battlefield tactical conversations?


+ Show Spoiler +
Guys is just naked chat room being the most high tech communication in gundam universe and it is the true power of newtypes


+ Show Spoiler +
Is Capricorn even a newtype?

I don't even recognize that name, so he's definitely not one.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 04:05:03
February 20 2016 04:03 GMT
#110736
I know Gate never really makes sense but...
+ Show Spoiler +
What kind of shitty assassin do you have to be to use a crossbow at point blank range as an assassination tool? The whole point of ranged weapons is to keep the user safe, shoot from the crowd or something, instead the guy exposes himself and makes his intent obvious and fails to kill Lelei.

The point of the series is to stop a war between the Empire and Japan to save lives, but if a war started it could still be ended quickly through bloody or almost clean methods. The Empire barely understands guns, they wouldn't understand sniper rifles. The Japanese cook is also directly feeding Zorzal so poison could work. The Empire has no defenses against armored or aerial vehicles other than maybe mages and even they wouldn't be able to stop a jet bombing run due to it's speed.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 05:23:08
February 20 2016 05:11 GMT
#110737
On February 20 2016 07:20 Slaughter wrote:
GATE

+ Show Spoiler +
The prince isn't going to stop being an idiot until Japan has killed every single soldier in the empire is dead ~_~ Leilei with the casual claim to Itami loool. The fight was kinda cool too.


+ Show Spoiler +
If I were Itami, I would be very very careful to avoid being with Rory alone. She seemed quite annoyed. Also "You were insane, doesn't count" - if only that worked with some of my exes...


On February 20 2016 13:03 BlackMagister wrote:
I know Gate never really makes sense but...
+ Show Spoiler +
What kind of shitty assassin do you have to be to use a crossbow at point blank range as an assassination tool? The whole point of ranged weapons is to keep the user safe, shoot from the crowd or something, instead the guy exposes himself and makes his intent obvious and fails to kill Lelei.

The point of the series is to stop a war between the Empire and Japan to save lives, but if a war started it could still be ended quickly through bloody or almost clean methods. The Empire barely understands guns, they wouldn't understand sniper rifles. The Japanese cook is also directly feeding Zorzal so poison could work. The Empire has no defenses against armored or aerial vehicles other than maybe mages and even they wouldn't be able to stop a jet bombing run due to it's speed.


Everything you say is quite true, however + Show Spoiler +
you need to take into account the cultural differences as well. Poison as a political tool is something that the feudal empire seems quite comfortable with, as is sacrificing large numbers of troops in the belief that they can win. And quality > quantity, certainly, but quantity can have a quality all on its own - technologically inferior armies do have methods to fight effectively against modern arms. That's why the generals Zoldork spoke with clearly eschewed any kind of remotely straight on engagement. Because of their cultural differences and more likely their (to our eyes) amoral leadership, they can put up some resistance. While Pina is quite right in her knowledge that Japan could annihilate the Empire completely, and Japan has the advanced warfighting combined arms to do so, both don't catch on to the problem that Japan has - the same one that most countries currently have had post WWII. While they can fight an unrestricted or total war, they are loathe to do so (and I imagine generally pacifist Japan more so than most). Not unlike during the Korean War, when a general was relieved of command for suggesting atomic bombs to stop the war. There isn't an appetite for the kind of total, unrestricted warfare and potential for collateral (aka, noncombatant) casualties and devastation that results. At the moment, Japan is treating the Empire as another state - and there are rules for warfare. Not that the Empire knows or cares.

As for the assassin, I'm guessing he failed to be good. It would've been easier to shoot from further away, but maybe he wanted to be sure that defensive magic wouldn't stop him?


Anyways, the whole idea of technologically disparate societies meeting has been done ad nauseum in SciFi. (Hell, I can think of at least three different series by David Weber that address this kind of thing.)
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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 05:50:50
February 20 2016 05:49 GMT
#110738
On February 20 2016 14:11 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2016 07:20 Slaughter wrote:
GATE

+ Show Spoiler +
The prince isn't going to stop being an idiot until Japan has killed every single soldier in the empire is dead ~_~ Leilei with the casual claim to Itami loool. The fight was kinda cool too.


+ Show Spoiler +
If I were Itami, I would be very very careful to avoid being with Rory alone. She seemed quite annoyed. Also "You were insane, doesn't count" - if only that worked with some of my exes...


Show nested quote +
On February 20 2016 13:03 BlackMagister wrote:
I know Gate never really makes sense but...
+ Show Spoiler +
What kind of shitty assassin do you have to be to use a crossbow at point blank range as an assassination tool? The whole point of ranged weapons is to keep the user safe, shoot from the crowd or something, instead the guy exposes himself and makes his intent obvious and fails to kill Lelei.

The point of the series is to stop a war between the Empire and Japan to save lives, but if a war started it could still be ended quickly through bloody or almost clean methods. The Empire barely understands guns, they wouldn't understand sniper rifles. The Japanese cook is also directly feeding Zorzal so poison could work. The Empire has no defenses against armored or aerial vehicles other than maybe mages and even they wouldn't be able to stop a jet bombing run due to it's speed.


Everything you say is quite true, however + Show Spoiler +
you need to take into account the cultural differences as well. Poison as a political tool is something that the feudal empire seems quite comfortable with, as is sacrificing large numbers of troops in the belief that they can win. And quality > quantity, certainly, but quantity can have a quality all on its own - technologically inferior armies do have methods to fight effectively against modern arms. That's why the generals Zoldork spoke with clearly eschewed any kind of remotely straight on engagement. Because of their cultural differences and more likely their (to our eyes) amoral leadership, they can put up some resistance. While Pina is quite right in her knowledge that Japan could annihilate the Empire completely, and Japan has the advanced warfighting combined arms to do so, both don't catch on to the problem that Japan has - the same one that most countries currently have had post WWII. While they can fight an unrestricted or total war, they are loathe to do so (and I imagine generally pacifist Japan more so than most). Not unlike during the Korean War, when a general was relieved of command for suggesting atomic bombs to stop the war. There isn't an appetite for the kind of total, unrestricted warfare and potential for collateral (aka, noncombatant) casualties and devastation that results. At the moment, Japan is treating the Empire as another state - and there are rules for warfare. Not that the Empire knows or cares.

As for the assassin, I'm guessing he failed to be good. It would've been easier to shoot from further away, but maybe he wanted to be sure that defensive magic wouldn't stop him?


Anyways, the whole idea of technologically disparate societies meeting has been done ad nauseum in SciFi. (Hell, I can think of at least three different series by David Weber that address this kind of thing.)


Your analysis is spot on IMO.

Still, one could wonder why the + Show Spoiler +
assassin(s) were so dumb. Wouldn't a dagger or a sword (just like how he goes pierced) be a better weapon to perform the task? Also, random knight appears... guess the assassins weren't very subtile... That and Lelei probably has a plot armor!

Granted, we have little information on how the Mages defend themselves against weapons. They could be the most OP "class" in that universe, after the Dragons


This episode showed some interesting developments, I thought. + Show Spoiler +
The Empire's desire (led by Prince + Friends) to fight some sort of guerrila war instead of waging a battle on an open field seems like the correct choice of tactic, especially in an asymmetric warfare (empire vs Japan), and could allude to how our Modern countries are having trouble fighting against insurgents in urban areas, or against an invisible enemy that will not hesitate to go against all rules of engagement.

Of course, I have little faith in the show taking the "hard" route. IMO, Itami and friends will easily thwart whatever schemes the Prince + friends have... Which is sad because the show could have taken an "unique" turn! The war could become some sort terrorist-esque armies vs Japan's superior armies + Public opinion that might not desire casualties + collateral damages!
veQ
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland339 Posts
February 20 2016 10:22 GMT
#110739
Tengenn Toppa Gurenn Lagann related.
+ Show Spoiler +
Finished the series.
I guess the first half set the trend for the whole series so I cant blame it. Merge Lagann with something - get bigger and so on.
Screw the repetetiveness. The first half got me thinkin that the most unorthodox things are what make anime stand out.
Didnt like the sacrifices in ep 24/25. ABSOLUTELY LOVED APPEARANCE OF KAMINA. How they made the characters look after 7 and 20 years later. And Nia...

Watch it?
For sure!

Do the impossible, See the Invisible, Touch the untouchable, Break the unbreakable.
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Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 20 2016 10:33 GMT
#110740
On February 20 2016 19:22 veQ wrote:
Tengenn Toppa Gurenn Lagann related.
+ Show Spoiler +
Finished the series.
I guess the first half set the trend for the whole series so I cant blame it. Merge Lagann with something - get bigger and so on.
Screw the repetetiveness. The first half got me thinkin that the most unorthodox things are what make anime stand out.
Didnt like the sacrifices in ep 24/25. ABSOLUTELY LOVED APPEARANCE OF KAMINA. How they made the characters look after 7 and 20 years later. And Nia...

Watch it?
For sure!

Do the impossible, See the Invisible, Touch the untouchable, Break the unbreakable.

You should definitely watch the movies now. Especially the second one.
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