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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 01 2011 02:15 GMT
#10961
LoGH 3:

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, the Alliance (at least the secretary of defense) seem like as much of douches as you would expect the Empire to be. And the PKC kills people for speaking out against the country? It seems like both sides in this conflict suck.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
January 01 2011 02:20 GMT
#10962
On January 01 2011 11:15 Ferrose wrote:
LoGH 3:

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, the Alliance (at least the secretary of defense) seem like as much of douches as you would expect the Empire to be. And the PKC kills people for speaking out against the country? It seems like both sides in this conflict suck.


I'm gonna guess that this is gonna be a major part of the story. The alliance and the empire will not be the same at the end.

But I have no idea how it's gonna look in the end. There's Phezzan somewhere out there too. I wonder why the empire doesn't consider Phezzan as a bunch of rebels like they do of the alliance. Can someone explain?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 01 2011 02:24 GMT
#10963
On January 01 2011 11:20 Thratur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 11:15 Ferrose wrote:
LoGH 3:

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, the Alliance (at least the secretary of defense) seem like as much of douches as you would expect the Empire to be. And the PKC kills people for speaking out against the country? It seems like both sides in this conflict suck.


I'm gonna guess that this is gonna be a major part of the story. The alliance and the empire will not be the same at the end.

But I have no idea how it's gonna look in the end. There's Phezzan somewhere out there too. I wonder why the empire doesn't consider Phezzan as a bunch of rebels like they do of the alliance. Can someone explain?


Phezzan is like Switzerland. It's neutral (sorry if I offended any Swiss people. I love your cheese!)

I can barely picture the next episode let alone the end. This series is so deep already. I wish western TV had stuff like this.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 02:29:20
January 01 2011 02:25 GMT
#10964
Well, you haven't watched episode 8 yet, but from the history behind it, it doesn't look like the empire would just accept a neutral country like that. That's not really how they think.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 02:33 GMT
#10965
Phezzan is technically considered to be part of the Empire, but they are granted alot of self-governance. Sort of how like, Taiwan or Hong Kong is to China? Not sure of a good example. But Phezzan is on a very important trade route, so they are very rich, and therefore can buy alot of their freedom.

The Alliance on the other hand literally are rebels. It started from a group of people fleeing the empire a long time ago in the past, and starting their own nation outside of explored space. A few hundred years later, the Empire discovers them, and goes "wtf where u come from??? *start of war*".

And one of the good things LoGH does, is put lots and lots of grey on both sides of the conflict. It doesn't want you thinking that the Empire is strictly evil, because its a dictatorship, or that the Alliance is all great and nobel, because its a democracy. Both sides have their villians and heroes. Its one of the many strengths of the show.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
January 01 2011 02:35 GMT
#10966
Oh great. I knew about the Alliance from episode 8, but I had no idea Phezzan was considered from the Empire to be part of the Empire. Thank you for the explanation.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 01 2011 02:39 GMT
#10967
Thankfully we have Sentenal to clarify this for us, lol.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 02:43 GMT
#10968
Its important to note that Phezzan is just "technically" part of the Empire, as their actions, and even how the Alliance and the Empire treats Phezzan, tends to make them seem like their own country.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
January 01 2011 02:47 GMT
#10969
Phezzan has a treaty saying it can act independently of the Empire, but they are technically part of hte Empire. So...

SPOIER.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Emperor just marches straight thru Phezzan into the Alliance and fucks em.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 02:56 GMT
#10970
On January 01 2011 11:47 nihoh wrote:
Phezzan has a treaty saying it can act independently of the Empire, but they are technically part of hte Empire. So...

SPOIER.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Emperor just marches straight thru Phezzan into the Alliance and fucks em.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember when this actually happens, Yang or someone in his fleet makes a comment that the Alliance did have a plan in case the Empire decided to do that, but because of what happened at Amlitzer plus the Alliance's civil war, they lost the means to defend against an invasion like that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 01 2011 03:05 GMT
#10971
I just thought. In German, Kirche=Church. And Eis=Ice Cream

Kircheis=Church ice cream
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 03:06 GMT
#10972
lol, and Reinhart thinks its a better name than Siegfreid
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
January 01 2011 03:12 GMT
#10973
On January 01 2011 11:56 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 11:47 nihoh wrote:
Phezzan has a treaty saying it can act independently of the Empire, but they are technically part of hte Empire. So...

SPOIER.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Emperor just marches straight thru Phezzan into the Alliance and fucks em.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember when this actually happens, Yang or someone in his fleet makes a comment that the Alliance did have a plan in case the Empire decided to do that, but because of what happened at Amlitzer plus the Alliance's civil war, they lost the means to defend against an invasion like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
What actually happened was that Yang warned the Alliance higher-ups that Reinhart would consider such a tactic (as to violate the gentlemen's agreement that the Phezzan corridor is neutral), and that the Alliance should station an army there. And Yang was, as usual, promptly laughed off and told to mind his own business and stick his ass back in Iserlohn fortress.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 03:17 GMT
#10974
On January 01 2011 12:12 nihoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 11:56 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2011 11:47 nihoh wrote:
Phezzan has a treaty saying it can act independently of the Empire, but they are technically part of hte Empire. So...

SPOIER.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Emperor just marches straight thru Phezzan into the Alliance and fucks em.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember when this actually happens, Yang or someone in his fleet makes a comment that the Alliance did have a plan in case the Empire decided to do that, but because of what happened at Amlitzer plus the Alliance's civil war, they lost the means to defend against an invasion like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
What actually happened was that Yang warned the Alliance higher-ups that Reinhart would consider such a tactic (as to violate the gentlemen's agreement that the Phezzan corridor is neutral), and that the Alliance should station an army there. And Yang was, as usual, promptly laughed off and told to mind his own business and stick his ass back in Iserlohn fortress.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember that happening to, but I distinctly remember someone saying something about the alliance previously having a plan in case the Empire did invade through Phezzan, but lacked the power to defend against it after having all of their fleets shot to bits by the empire and civil war.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
January 01 2011 03:30 GMT
#10975
On January 01 2011 12:17 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 12:12 nihoh wrote:
On January 01 2011 11:56 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2011 11:47 nihoh wrote:
Phezzan has a treaty saying it can act independently of the Empire, but they are technically part of hte Empire. So...

SPOIER.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Emperor just marches straight thru Phezzan into the Alliance and fucks em.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember when this actually happens, Yang or someone in his fleet makes a comment that the Alliance did have a plan in case the Empire decided to do that, but because of what happened at Amlitzer plus the Alliance's civil war, they lost the means to defend against an invasion like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
What actually happened was that Yang warned the Alliance higher-ups that Reinhart would consider such a tactic (as to violate the gentlemen's agreement that the Phezzan corridor is neutral), and that the Alliance should station an army there. And Yang was, as usual, promptly laughed off and told to mind his own business and stick his ass back in Iserlohn fortress.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember that happening too, but I distinctly remember someone saying something about the Alliance previously having a plan in case the Empire did invade through Phezzan, but lacked the power to defend against it after having all of their fleets shot to bits by the empire and civil war.

+ Show Spoiler +
Well what you said sort of happened and it sort of doesn't make sense because Yang pointed out that Iserlohn needs like 1 person only, and the rest of the fleet should be free to siege right outside of the Phezzan corridor.Yang's fleet was fully intact after the civil war, and Yang pointed out he only needed a small team to defend Iserlohn, and he could take the rest of his fleet to Phezzan and siege outside it.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 03:41 GMT
#10976
On January 01 2011 12:30 nihoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 12:17 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2011 12:12 nihoh wrote:
On January 01 2011 11:56 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2011 11:47 nihoh wrote:
Phezzan has a treaty saying it can act independently of the Empire, but they are technically part of hte Empire. So...

SPOIER.
+ Show Spoiler +
The Emperor just marches straight thru Phezzan into the Alliance and fucks em.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember when this actually happens, Yang or someone in his fleet makes a comment that the Alliance did have a plan in case the Empire decided to do that, but because of what happened at Amlitzer plus the Alliance's civil war, they lost the means to defend against an invasion like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
What actually happened was that Yang warned the Alliance higher-ups that Reinhart would consider such a tactic (as to violate the gentlemen's agreement that the Phezzan corridor is neutral), and that the Alliance should station an army there. And Yang was, as usual, promptly laughed off and told to mind his own business and stick his ass back in Iserlohn fortress.

+ Show Spoiler +
I remember that happening too, but I distinctly remember someone saying something about the Alliance previously having a plan in case the Empire did invade through Phezzan, but lacked the power to defend against it after having all of their fleets shot to bits by the empire and civil war.

+ Show Spoiler +
Well what you said sort of happened and it sort of doesn't make sense because Yang pointed out that Iserlohn needs like 1 person only, and the rest of the fleet should be free to siege right outside of the Phezzan corridor.Yang's fleet was fully intact after the civil war, and Yang pointed out he only needed a small team to defend Iserlohn, and he could take the rest of his fleet to Phezzan and siege outside it.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yang should have been allowed to take his fleet and station it outside of Phezzan, I agree. All I'm saying is if the Alliance had more fleets at the time the Empire invaded from Phezzan, they would have probably been able to defend the attack much better. But since Yang and Bucock's fleets were all that remained, they didn't have the man power needed to defend all fronts.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 01 2011 03:49 GMT
#10977
Finished ep 5 of LoGH.

How exactly does the Alliance expect Wang to capture Iserlohn with just 4k ships? Unless they want him to be killed.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2011 03:52 GMT
#10978
They expect him to use magic. Or more likely, they probably just want him him out of the way, due to the events with the PKC.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
January 01 2011 03:55 GMT
#10979
That's exactly what I thought. They want to get rid of him. No way they're expecting him to defeat Iserlohn while they failed 6 times before with bigger fleets.

They're gonna get a nice surprise haha.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 01 2011 03:56 GMT
#10980
Thratur, you could probably watch up to ep 10 or 12 if you wanted. I'm on 6 now, and it's only 11 pm.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
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