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On November 18 2015 16:07 Nagisama wrote:
Thought numy just loved his yuri, not lolis.
Most in adt irc channel have played first chapter, and most have played/playing second chapter, and the elitist few have finished third chapter, and whatever else comes after that...
He loves illya iirc and that is definitely lol and yuri.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
On November 18 2015 17:53 Sterlymobile wrote:
Will Calvary have a harem? I don't like the current two girls.
no stella best girl and mc knows it.
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On November 18 2015 17:53 Sterlymobile wrote:
Will Calvary have a harem? I don't like the current two girls.
there is no harem
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Netherlands45349 Posts
the ED (and current episode) tells me that at last 4 girls will be aiming for the MC, 3 pretty much confirmed already.
i'd call that a harem.
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I thought we had that topic already? Cavalry is a fake harem, like SAO for example.
On November 18 2015 18:31 Harem wrote:
there is no harem
Does that mean you don't actually exist?
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I don't know if I'd call SAO fake harem. MC barely gives a fuck about his wife and goes around playing with other girls that all want his dick so bad they almost dry humping him while his wife is next to them. Maybe that is what a fake harem is though oo. A MC with a girlfriend/wife that still has a horde of girls he plays with that all want him badly while he neglects the woman he's involved with. We can go deeper though. Does Asuna really count as a women? Isn't she more like a masturbation tool than an actual character in the story.
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On November 18 2015 19:22 Numy wrote:
I don't know if I'd call SAO fake harem. MC barely gives a fuck about his wife and goes around playing with other girls that all want his dick so bad they almost dry humping him while his wife is next to them. Maybe that is what a fake harem is though oo. A MC with a girlfriend/wife that still has a horde of girls he plays with that all want him badly while he neglects the woman he's involved with. We can go deeper though. Does Asuna really count as a women? Isn't she more like a masturbation tool than an actual character in the story.
That's exactly what a fake harem is.
Asuna starts out as a girl but the author forgets that he needs to write more than one-liner for her midway. Or wait, now I get it. The whole kidnapping thing changed Asuna psychological. Poor girl and what a genius writer relying on the intelligence of the viewer to figure things out instead of throwing it into our faces. Man, I'm going to bump up my rating for SAO now that I figured this out.
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On November 18 2015 19:22 Numy wrote:
I don't know if I'd call SAO fake harem. MC barely gives a fuck about his wife and goes around playing with other girls that all want his dick so bad they almost dry humping him while his wife is next to them. Maybe that is what a fake harem is though oo. A MC with a girlfriend/wife that still has a horde of girls he plays with that all want him badly while he neglects the woman he's involved with. We can go deeper though. Does Asuna really count as a women? Isn't she more like a masturbation tool than an actual character in the story.
Im not sure thats a fake harem, thats still just a harem. Not sure what fake harem is supposed to mean. Unless that means harem with MC commited to main girl, in which case sure.
I dont see much of a difference between Rakudai and Asterisk. One has a brocon loli the other has a osananajimi loli, one has overly sexualized conniving kaichou, the other added the bang over one eye vulnerable shy chick etc etc...
The only major difference is interactions with main girl
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
bang over eye actually doesn't like MC
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Netherlands45349 Posts
judging by the last episode she will be all over MC next episode, typical harem formula
I didn't read the adeption material though so idk.
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On November 18 2015 19:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
bang over eye actually doesn't like MC
Actually you dont know that. Unless I missed something. At the end of the day, that doesnt matter much anyway.
Look Stella best girl etc etc. Its fine if you want to believe that, I dont really care at all, its just a couple of battle harems with some similarities and definately not worth getting in an argument over. Theres like a whole decade of this kind of show so best to not take them seriously.
just catching upto Asterisk, they added a loli with overdeveloped tits. lol..
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On November 18 2015 19:39 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 19:22 Numy wrote:
I don't know if I'd call SAO fake harem. MC barely gives a fuck about his wife and goes around playing with other girls that all want his dick so bad they almost dry humping him while his wife is next to them. Maybe that is what a fake harem is though oo. A MC with a girlfriend/wife that still has a horde of girls he plays with that all want him badly while he neglects the woman he's involved with. We can go deeper though. Does Asuna really count as a women? Isn't she more like a masturbation tool than an actual character in the story. That's exactly what a fake harem is. Asuna starts out as a girl but the author forgets that he needs to write more than one-liner for her midway. Or wait, now I get it. The whole kidnapping thing changed Asuna psychological. Poor girl and what a genius writer relying on the intelligence of the viewer to figure things out instead of throwing it into our faces. Man, I'm going to bump up my rating for SAO now that I figured this out.
All this time -monogatari was a fake harem and I didn't even know it
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On November 18 2015 20:21 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 19:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
bang over eye actually doesn't like MC Actually you dont know that. Unless I missed something. At the end of the day, that doesnt matter much anyway. Look Stella best girl etc etc. Its fine if you want to believe that, I dont really care at all, its just a couple of battle harems with some similarities and definately not worth getting in an argument over. Theres like a whole decade of this kind of show so best to not take them seriously. just catching upto Asterisk, they added a loli with overdeveloped tits. lol..
but if we don't fight about girls then what are we really here for.
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On November 18 2015 20:39 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 20:21 Rebs wrote:On November 18 2015 19:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
bang over eye actually doesn't like MC Actually you dont know that. Unless I missed something. At the end of the day, that doesnt matter much anyway. Look Stella best girl etc etc. Its fine if you want to believe that, I dont really care at all, its just a couple of battle harems with some similarities and definately not worth getting in an argument over. Theres like a whole decade of this kind of show so best to not take them seriously. just catching upto Asterisk, they added a loli with overdeveloped tits. lol.. but if we don't fight about girls then what are we really here for.
Oh no by all means go ahead. Just not with me :p. I just wanted to point out the shows are offering a similar experiences.
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On November 18 2015 20:49 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 20:39 Kipsate wrote:On November 18 2015 20:21 Rebs wrote:On November 18 2015 19:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
bang over eye actually doesn't like MC Actually you dont know that. Unless I missed something. At the end of the day, that doesnt matter much anyway. Look Stella best girl etc etc. Its fine if you want to believe that, I dont really care at all, its just a couple of battle harems with some similarities and definately not worth getting in an argument over. Theres like a whole decade of this kind of show so best to not take them seriously. just catching upto Asterisk, they added a loli with overdeveloped tits. lol.. but if we don't fight about girls then what are we really here for. Oh no by all means go ahead. Just not with me :p. I just wanted to point out the shows are offering a similar experiences.
They battle harems. They all follow the same formula and merely differentiate themselves by the small adjustments in setting as well as character interactions. Also the lewdness variable and how lewd is presented changes but the latter typically is the same for stories in similar lewd bands.
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Is Clannad a fake harem?
Or hell, what about Nisekoi. It's pretty clear who he's going to end up with, but I'm pretty sure it's still a harem.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
On November 18 2015 23:59 Dark_Chill wrote:
Is Clannad a fake harem?
Or hell, what about Nisekoi. It's pretty clear who he's going to end up with, but I'm pretty sure it's still a harem.
I think the most clear distinction between a harem and a fake harem is how beta the MC is.
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On November 18 2015 23:59 Dark_Chill wrote:
Is Clannad a fake harem?
Or hell, what about Nisekoi. It's pretty clear who he's going to end up with, but I'm pretty sure it's still a harem.
Nisekoi is a harem man wtf. It's like the quintessential harem of harems. Ticks off almost every single harem trope it can.
Monogatari is more "fake harem" because even though it's a singular(mostly) with large female cast where some of them are romantically interested it has settled the romantic aspect of a harem at the start of the show. Nisio kind of gets around this by making Araragi have this inbuilt desire to want to save girls so even though he's in a relationship with Hitagi he'll still go around helping these girls because that's just who he is. However after all the saving is done he'll come home to Hitagi's scantily clad cooking then make sweet love to her all night long.
Hmmm maybe it is about Betaness. Harems need to meet 1 of 2 criteria to work.
1) MC doesn't sleep with any of the girls
2) Girls are fine with MC sleeping with other girls
First one I guess you could say it doesn't hold true as long as they don't find out but sleeping with 5+ girls with none of the finding out while they all throwing themselves at MC seems suspect.
So yea you need a beta MC to make sure (1) doesn't happen since any male with any kind of social skills would just be fucking at least one of those girls with the way they go after MCs dick in harem shows. Then again in the Monogatari example it was all the alphaness of the girl that sealed the deal.
DxD is also interesting as the MC does want to sleep with all the girls and they want to sleep with him while not minding if others get in on there(mostly). He also sleeps with multiple naked women pushing their genitals on him every night yet in spite of all this he hasn't even gotten a handjob. Issei may just be the biggest Beta male in existence.
edit: Holy shit is DxD Guy Twilight? It all makes sense. All that sexual tension with zero actual sex. Mythic dark creatures instead of humans. Regular girl/guy involved with them. It's fucking Twilight. I feel disgusted with myself right now. They don't even kiss until like 12 volumes in! How did I not see this before.
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On November 18 2015 10:39 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 10:34 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 18 2015 08:42 XenOmega wrote:
Kanbaru Suruga best girl in Owarimonogatari? I'm alone in cat camp. npnp she's top 3 behind senjou and kissshot to me man
Gooby pls, kissshot is ugly
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teen shinobu is the best one
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