Anime Discussion Thread - Page 5060

When we knew about their child being under the control of the queerats, we knew that they had to dead or at best, somehow alive and mind control or something. What I really wanted to know is what happened? How did it get to that stage? We are never given that info. The whole igloo being destroyed, that was Maria's doing when she relocated with Mamarou but after that, did that other queerat convince them to stay at their place then when Maria gave birth, her cantus was at its weakest and Mamarou didn't have much in him so they easily overwhelmed them? Did they find them after they gave birth and that's when they attacked them both and took their child? Then you have the letter, it's definitely written by Maria but then, you can probably even try and wonder if it's a legit letter (seems to be to me) or if the queerats purposely wrote it (unlikely).

I could go on and on because as we saw, that child was what changed the whole war. True, the strategic and guerilla type warfare helped them greatly especially against the unprepared humans but beating the hornets in perfect fashion, killing a ton of people including Shirsei who was the strongest cantus user etc... accounted for a ton of fear that rendered humans helpless. Btw, guys, since I've seen this mentioned here, the child is not a fiend! Fiends would attack any and everything living, however, she was only targeting humans because she was raised to believe that she is a queerat from day one and had a death feedback if she killed one of them which is how they killed her in the end.

On the whole DNA topic, I gotta agree with whoever said that its good confirmation when you consider they also looked at dental records. I don't see why they can't do it especially given that Maria and Mamarou run away at the age of 14 then Tomoko said that when they would've been 26 (someone gave their child an age of 10 years so they would've been 17 at the time). There was more than enough to check the DNA and no time constraints with that timeline. Even if the age/gender bit was faked, there was still other evidence to back up the idea that it was them. I only thought that maybe she was lying because she wanted to avoid Saki getting disciplined or even gotten rid of, however, thinking back on it and the situation they were in, we know that Tomoko has always spoke of doing what's good for society.

I don't blame society for getting so mad at Squealer that they opted for the eternal hell punishment. My god, the pain must've been unimaginable. Likewise, I don't blame them for laughing at him when he said that he was human. Ignorance is bliss. What really pisses me off though is that it felt like their society completely closed itself off to previous human actions as in it didn't seem like they tried to teach their students any information about history but everything seemed to focus on doing what's best for society (fiend on bridge, cut rope or if karma demon, walk into a lake to die; makes sense why they did it though). I don't forsee any quick changes happening, at least, not until the people realize that queerats have a link to humans. It is really sad overall though. PK users suppress non-PK users by turning them into beasts so that they can easily use their cantus against them while maintaining their own rules of society. Makes me wonder just how many from the higher ups of society actually know about queerats have human origins.

I assume none of them know. A lot of the show was about people perpetuating laws/ideas solely because that is what is done instead of knowing why.They don't think for themselves which is partly why Saki's group was created. The old lady saw that the way things were done now wasn't good enough but couldn't change anything herself so she/they tried to get a group of individuals that thought for themselves. Everyone else in their society has a deep rooted fear of knowledge and change. They intentionally kill off or reeducate anyone that starts to be an "individual" as to breed this idealogy. I can't recall if they even know why the ring is set up in the village or how it influences the outside world?

What no that letter was def from Maria, it came way before the Queerats turned on her. It even had intimate details about her personal life. Unless you saying that he got all the info from her then forged a letter? Sees far more likely is that he encouraged her to write it while he was being kind to her to make sure she let down her guard then killed her after birth.