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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 17 2014 21:27 GMT
#89321
In order for stuff to sell u need some H/Ecchi too, obligatory h-scenes in VN pewpew.
WriterXiao8~~
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 17 2014 21:50 GMT
#89322
Plenty of well selling stuff out there without that stuff in it. I feel sometimes its inserted just for that sterotypical thought process of "sex sells" but its forced and token when they do that and it actually detracts rather then adds to the content. The whole "sex sells" thing is a vastly overrated concept anyways and doesn't work nearly as well as the public seems to think.

And yes I am still bitter about the H scenes in FSN VN. 85% of them added nothing except more laughs at just how terribly done they were and the ones that did add something to the story were so low in quality that it was a push even for those. I bet even if they took out every sex scene the VN would have done basically the same sales.
Never Knows Best.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
December 17 2014 21:50 GMT
#89323
On December 18 2014 06:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 06:11 Slaughter wrote:
I would think most creators within the anime/manga industry wouldn't want their characters sexualized in such a way but the large amount of things like those full sized naked pillows suggests otherwise.

So indecent amirite

Lol what's on Souma's wish list?

Too much.
Writer
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 22:48:37
December 17 2014 22:00 GMT
#89324
On December 18 2014 06:11 Slaughter wrote:
I would think most creators within the anime/manga industry wouldn't want their characters sexualized in such a way but the large amount of things like those full sized naked pillows suggests otherwise.

http://www.mangapanda.com/788-50817-2/gundam-sousei/chapter-12.html

^^

On December 18 2014 06:13 Souma wrote:
Companies should just make original hentai content of popular anime charactersmilfs and rake in da monies.

This is actually how Godannar Season 2 was funded, reminder Souma should watch it


Fumina and Sekai singing

in GBF this week was cute

It also had Nagi's favorite Mobile Armor from Gundam X, doing what Nagi liked most about it
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 01:49:31
December 18 2014 01:41 GMT
#89325
On December 18 2014 06:50 Slaughter wrote:
Plenty of well selling stuff out there without that stuff in it. I feel sometimes its inserted just for that sterotypical thought process of "sex sells" but its forced and token when they do that and it actually detracts rather then adds to the content. The whole "sex sells" thing is a vastly overrated concept anyways and doesn't work nearly as well as the public seems to think.

And yes I am still bitter about the H scenes in FSN VN. 85% of them added nothing except more laughs at just how terribly done they were and the ones that did add something to the story were so low in quality that it was a push even for those. I bet even if they took out every sex scene the VN would have done basically the same sales.

not really. Everyone in the industry is known to be underpaid simply because the amount of work it takes to get out something like UBW is ridiculous even if it sells "well". 99% of the stuff out there is still not selling good enough for people to earn a decent wage.

You'll get more working at McDonalds as a Burgerflipper than a lot of people working in this industry if you're looking at $/hour

They'll take any money they can get really (I guess that's true in general for most people no matter the situation lol)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 18 2014 02:21 GMT
#89326
On December 18 2014 06:50 Slaughter wrote:
Plenty of well selling stuff out there without that stuff in it. I feel sometimes its inserted just for that sterotypical thought process of "sex sells" but its forced and token when they do that and it actually detracts rather then adds to the content. The whole "sex sells" thing is a vastly overrated concept anyways and doesn't work nearly as well as the public seems to think.

And yes I am still bitter about the H scenes in FSN VN. 85% of them added nothing except more laughs at just how terribly done they were and the ones that did add something to the story were so low in quality that it was a push even for those. I bet even if they took out every sex scene the VN would have done basically the same sales.

Maybe now it would, but Type-Moon today is very different compared to when it had just gone from a small doujin group to an actual company (when FSN first came out).
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 02:58:39
December 18 2014 02:58 GMT
#89327
I'm still not sure why Entertainers around the world are paid so little. They deserve a lot more.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
December 18 2014 05:31 GMT
#89328
On December 18 2014 11:58 IceHism wrote:
I'm still not sure why Entertainers around the world are paid so little. They deserve a lot more.


Some Entertainers are paid plenty already (Hollywood stars), no?
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
December 18 2014 06:15 GMT
#89329
On December 18 2014 06:50 Slaughter wrote:
Plenty of well selling stuff out there without that stuff in it. I feel sometimes its inserted just for that sterotypical thought process of "sex sells" but its forced and token when they do that and it actually detracts rather then adds to the content. The whole "sex sells" thing is a vastly overrated concept anyways and doesn't work nearly as well as the public seems to think.

And yes I am still bitter about the H scenes in FSN VN. 85% of them added nothing except more laughs at just how terribly done they were and the ones that did add something to the story were so low in quality that it was a push even for those. I bet even if they took out every sex scene the VN would have done basically the same sales.


Sex does sell, but if you hide it you can't really expect it to be a big selling factor, lol.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 18 2014 06:30 GMT
#89330
his point is that it could've sold just fine on the strength of its plot or whatever
the hscenes seemed like they were added in as an afterthought when they finished it like 'oh right this is supposed to be eroge, where can we cram some sex in??'

i remember posting on this exact sentiment a while back
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 18 2014 07:06 GMT
#89331
On December 18 2014 14:31 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 11:58 IceHism wrote:
I'm still not sure why Entertainers around the world are paid so little. They deserve a lot more.


Some Entertainers are paid plenty already (Hollywood stars), no?


outside of movie stars.

and of course, there are some who are paid plenty but some struggle just to put food on the table and that shouldn't be happening. Just like in shirobako lol.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
December 18 2014 08:20 GMT
#89332
Finals is finally over and Shirobako is in the morning.

Feelsgoodman
Skol
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 09:28:51
December 18 2014 08:23 GMT
#89333
Its cause the anime/VN industry is fucking tiny. Very few companies can afford non-H, like Key can cause they are huge within that tiny industry, Typ-Moon could prolly sell a Saber VN without h-scenes and it would sell well right now too

however it would sell more with H.

Also Michuru Mahou Shoujo game stretch goal reached.
WriterXiao8~~
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 18 2014 08:25 GMT
#89334
On December 18 2014 15:30 andyrau wrote:
his point is that it could've sold just fine on the strength of its plot or whatever
the hscenes seemed like they were added in as an afterthought when they finished it like 'oh right this is supposed to be eroge, where can we cram some sex in??'

i remember posting on this exact sentiment a while back


Well sex scene can be one of the factor that help original F/SN sales though. Mahou Tsukai no Yoru (Mahoyo) sold significantly less than the orignial F/SN and many argue that it is because it has no sex scenes (although that might be because of other factors too).
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 18 2014 10:22 GMT
#89335
On December 18 2014 17:23 Kipsate wrote:
Its cause the anime/VN industry is fucking tiny. Very few companies can afford non-H, like Key can cause they are huge within that tiny industry, Typ-Moon could prolly sell a Saber VN without h-scenes and it would sell well right now too

however it would sell more with H.

Also Michuru Mahou Shoujo game stretch goal reached.


Sex is natural,people enjoy sex, everything is sexualized(Guys/Girls). People just need to accept this shit and stop making sex some kind of taboo. The whole throwing in H-scenes for the hell of it only works because of this whole repression/taboo thing going on. If everyone just accepted it terrible random H-scenes would be viewed as what they are, terrible.

Michuru Mahou Shoujo game sounds epic.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
December 18 2014 13:12 GMT
#89336
VNs wouldn't be where they are without sex and they'll continue to have sex because sex is awesome.

I remember the first VN I ever played. It was also my first encounter with porn. Noctrunal Illusion. https://vndb.org/v725

shit was weird.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49986 Posts
December 18 2014 13:45 GMT
#89337
Nocturnal Illusion sounds like a great band name tho
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 18 2014 13:48 GMT
#89338
goth metal band for sure
WriterXiao8~~
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
December 18 2014 14:38 GMT
#89339
damn I am so bad at catching up with anime. Just few weeks of exam and stuff and already behind by 3-4 episodes for everything this season. And then I continue with Grisaia VN instead XD.

Speaking about Grisaia VN, got a question to ask regarding route
+ Show Spoiler +

I finally reach first choice after eternity (Helping Sachi in town) and being a sucker for spoiler, I went to read what choice lead to what route. Apparently everyone's route has "help Sachi" as their first choice. But I want to choose "not helping Sachi" T_T will it affect the ending like may be I will end up with nobody ending? I know it's a VN and not really a dating sim game, but still
ELqQQT_T
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 18 2014 14:52 GMT
#89340
The first few choices won't make a difference until you get a Makina choice about money

+ Show Spoiler +
Eventually Sachi will play a game with you if you doj the other routes
And then you choose compliment her cause she is best girl.
WriterXiao8~~
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