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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 04:35:18
August 14 2014 04:34 GMT
#81441
On August 14 2014 13:30 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 13:20 Slaughter wrote:
Yea but you usually can adapt more of a manga then you can of a LN. 2 seasons can cover a lot of manga but its hardly anything for a LN series of decent length.

This has nothing to do with what medium is getting adapted, but rather how long the work is. You could have an really long manga like One Piece (just for an extreme example) require a ton of episodes to get adaption, and then you could potentially have some short LN get adapted in a cour.

Obligatory OreImo is shit regardless of format


This is true, my perspective is probably a bit skewed because the LN I have read are longer series while a lot of the manga series I follow weren't long (or won't end up long, One Piece aside because I hope that series continues to go on for a looong time).

Edit: and yes a lot of complaints against OreImo are against the story itself and not its manner of presentation.
Never Knows Best.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 14 2014 04:41 GMT
#81442
yea, but i'm wondering how SoL LNs are affected in an adaption compared to Fantasy / Sci-fi. Not your opinion on oreimo itself
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 14 2014 04:42 GMT
#81443
On August 14 2014 12:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd say GitS is better than the original manga.


I tried watching GitS yesterday but couldn't get into it. Normally I give shows that I know have potential a few episodes at least because I know they'll be quality. But have to ask, is GitS nostalgia over rated like many anime or is it legit great? GitS SAC is what I tried watching. From the first 2 eps it at least seemed like the MC had potential.

I also haven't given Mushishi more than 1 ep on either season of it... and Mushishi fans swear it's super great. Dislike episodic to a degree unless it's awesome comedy wise.

I think nostalgia over rated happens to a lot of well anime movies. I see a lot of movies in the top 250 anime on MAL that I don't really think belong nearly as high as they are rated. Well, over rating everything happens based on nostalgia really.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51104 Posts
August 14 2014 04:49 GMT
#81444
SAC is legit, especially the first season with the whole "laughing man" case.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 14 2014 04:49 GMT
#81445
On August 14 2014 13:42 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 12:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd say GitS is better than the original manga.


I tried watching GitS yesterday but couldn't get into it. Normally I give shows that I know have potential a few episodes at least because I know they'll be quality. But have to ask, is GitS nostalgia over rated like many anime or is it legit great? GitS SAC is what I tried watching. From the first 2 eps it at least seemed like the MC had potential.

I also haven't given Mushishi more than 1 ep on either season of it... and Mushishi fans swear it's super great. Dislike episodic to a degree unless it's awesome comedy wise.

I think nostalgia over rated happens to a lot of well anime movies. I see a lot of movies in the top 250 anime on MAL that I don't really think belong nearly as high as they are rated. Well, over rating everything happens based on nostalgia really.

Have you watched the films? GitS 1 is really, really good.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 14 2014 04:51 GMT
#81446
On August 14 2014 13:28 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 13:25 Ecael wrote:
Horizon is butchered just because that shit is too big to properly do a media mix without inflating the length to hell and beyond ;;


How about the slice of life adaptions? What do you think about oreimo or oregairu from ln to anime?

When it comes to things that are shorter, not necessarily slice of life, it depends on the skill of the people doing storyboard. Both Oregairu and Oreimo worked out fairly decent in that regard. At least, if we ignore Ayase vol getting axed.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 14 2014 04:51 GMT
#81447
Thx will watch both then! :D
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
August 14 2014 04:52 GMT
#81448
GitS SAC is an anime that many of my IRL friends who don't watch anime liked. Take that as you will. I don't think they'd seen the movie beforehand either?
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 14 2014 04:55 GMT
#81449
On August 14 2014 13:51 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 13:28 IceHism wrote:
On August 14 2014 13:25 Ecael wrote:
Horizon is butchered just because that shit is too big to properly do a media mix without inflating the length to hell and beyond ;;


How about the slice of life adaptions? What do you think about oreimo or oregairu from ln to anime?

When it comes to things that are shorter, not necessarily slice of life, it depends on the skill of the people doing storyboard. Both Oregairu and Oreimo worked out fairly decent in that regard. At least, if we ignore Ayase vol getting axed.


wait there was an ayase volume? is that one translated? i wanna read that
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
August 14 2014 05:20 GMT
#81450
GitS was the first anime I watched and remains one of my all time favorites.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 06:26:44
August 14 2014 05:44 GMT
#81451
On August 14 2014 13:42 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 12:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd say GitS is better than the original manga.


I tried watching GitS yesterday but couldn't get into it. Normally I give shows that I know have potential a few episodes at least because I know they'll be quality. But have to ask, is GitS nostalgia over rated like many anime or is it legit great? GitS SAC is what I tried watching. From the first 2 eps it at least seemed like the MC had potential.

I also haven't given Mushishi more than 1 ep on either season of it... and Mushishi fans swear it's super great. Dislike episodic to a degree unless it's awesome comedy wise.

I think nostalgia over rated happens to a lot of well anime movies. I see a lot of movies in the top 250 anime on MAL that I don't really think belong nearly as high as they are rated. Well, over rating everything happens based on nostalgia really.

GitS SAC has two types of episodes. SA which are stand alone episodes and C which are the episodes dealing with the main plot. If you didn't like the first 2 eps you can try the 4th episode which is the first C episode. I watched the whole series but if I ever plan to rewatch the series I would only watch the C episodes. You can get a list of the C episodes here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ghost_in_the_Shell:_Stand_Alone_Complex_episodes
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 10:36:08
August 14 2014 10:35 GMT
#81452
On August 14 2014 13:55 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 13:51 Ecael wrote:
On August 14 2014 13:28 IceHism wrote:
On August 14 2014 13:25 Ecael wrote:
Horizon is butchered just because that shit is too big to properly do a media mix without inflating the length to hell and beyond ;;


How about the slice of life adaptions? What do you think about oreimo or oregairu from ln to anime?

When it comes to things that are shorter, not necessarily slice of life, it depends on the skill of the people doing storyboard. Both Oregairu and Oreimo worked out fairly decent in that regard. At least, if we ignore Ayase vol getting axed.


wait there was an ayase volume? is that one translated? i wanna read that

it's apparently that half episode when she's over at his place to help him out they did instead of the vol o/

But there's no hayamin in textform... so I'd ditch that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
August 14 2014 11:02 GMT
#81453
On August 14 2014 13:42 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 12:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd say GitS is better than the original manga.


I tried watching GitS yesterday but couldn't get into it. Normally I give shows that I know have potential a few episodes at least because I know they'll be quality. But have to ask, is GitS nostalgia over rated like many anime or is it legit great? GitS SAC is what I tried watching. From the first 2 eps it at least seemed like the MC had potential.

I also haven't given Mushishi more than 1 ep on either season of it... and Mushishi fans swear it's super great. Dislike episodic to a degree unless it's awesome comedy wise.

I think nostalgia over rated happens to a lot of well anime movies. I see a lot of movies in the top 250 anime on MAL that I don't really think belong nearly as high as they are rated. Well, over rating everything happens based on nostalgia really.

It might just be that you don't happen to like those types of anime then? It seems weird to go on about nostalgia because you, the outlier in this case, don't like a popular movie or series. Everyone has different tastes.
#freeshauni
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 11:19:34
August 14 2014 11:14 GMT
#81454
On August 14 2014 13:12 IceHism wrote:
i think novel -> anime has it the worse tbh.


Really?

There are so many popular/good/well-acclaimed novel -> anime adaptations. I'll just list the ones I've watched and know a lot of people like:

Katanagatari, Kino no Tabi, Baccano, Durarara, Tatami Galaxy, Fate/Zero, Kuuchuu Buranko, Perfect Blue, Aoi Bungaku, Banner/Crest of the Stars, Toradora, Haruhi, Kara no Kyoukai, Denpateki (lol), Monogatari Series, Uchouten Kazoku, Jinrui, Bungaku Shoujo, Howl's Moving Castle, Grave of the Fireflies, Spice and Wolf, Welcome to the NHK.

And isn't Legend of the Galactic Heroes a book series or something?
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 11:56:43
August 14 2014 11:48 GMT
#81455
I think I read somewhere here that some Ayase scenes were cut from the anime or something but thats about it.

On August 14 2014 20:51 Nagisama wrote:
If you mean all Ayase was cut from the novel that was focused on her, yes.

ya
WriterXiao8~~
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 14 2014 11:51 GMT
#81456
If you mean all Ayase was cut from the novel that was focused on her, yes.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 14 2014 12:05 GMT
#81457
On August 14 2014 20:51 Nagisama wrote:
If you mean all Ayase was cut from the novel that was focused on her, yes.

oh, so it was the vol itself that got axed?

I thought it was that there is a vol that just didn't get animated because of timeissues.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 14 2014 12:13 GMT
#81458
the worst part is how they include the stalker for no reason.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 14 2014 12:47 GMT
#81459
ha i never know the term of 'secondary' exists. i do prefer the origianal media and always read/watch the original source when it is possible/convenient to get. i want to post that fsn original menu theme tune but i cant seem to find it on youtube.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 13:45:46
August 14 2014 13:30 GMT
#81460
I just count GiTS as original because it's so completely different from manga.

On August 14 2014 20:14 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 13:12 IceHism wrote:
i think novel -> anime has it the worse tbh.


Really?

There are so many popular/good/well-acclaimed novel -> anime adaptations. I'll just list the ones I've watched and know a lot of people like:

Katanagatari, Kino no Tabi, Baccano, Durarara, Tatami Galaxy, Fate/Zero, Kuuchuu Buranko, Perfect Blue, Aoi Bungaku, Banner/Crest of the Stars, Toradora, Haruhi, Kara no Kyoukai, Denpateki (lol), Monogatari Series, Uchouten Kazoku, Jinrui, Bungaku Shoujo, Howl's Moving Castle, Grave of the Fireflies, Spice and Wolf, Welcome to the NHK.

And isn't Legend of the Galactic Heroes a book series or something?


Of the list, only Haruhi, Uchouten anime better than LN. Stuff like Kara no Kyoukai, it's hard to say if anime is better or just have graphics...

Though I'd say LN > Anime adaptation is best followed by manga. game > anime is by far the worst.
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