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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 22:26:11
February 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#53201
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
February 17 2013 22:30 GMT
#53202
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Its gonna be a good Sunday afternoon.
Skol
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
February 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#53203
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 22:46:23
February 17 2013 22:43 GMT
#53204
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 22:48:12
February 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#53205
On February 18 2013 07:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Its gonna be a good Sunday afternoon.



Chihayafuru... I was bored enough to stop watching at about episode 6 or 7 or so, I haven't technically dropped it, just put it on an... indefinitely ongoing pause. Might start sooner or later again, but I dunno. Personally I have watched about 20 episodes of Monster today, that was a good Sunday for me.

edit: I'd say this season is decent, I'm liking Sasami and Mondaiji, so... but still, the best ongoing shows imo are the 2cour shows from the last season. Except Sakurasou. Fuck Sakurasou.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
February 17 2013 22:50 GMT
#53206
I just downloaded monster and cant wait to start watching, the audio is desyncing hard when I stream it to the tv (happening with texhnolyze as well) so stuck watching one piece for now though :/.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
February 17 2013 22:52 GMT
#53207
Chihayafuru is the only anime worth watching from this season .... oh yea and Inferno Cop for the laughs.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
February 17 2013 22:53 GMT
#53208
On February 18 2013 07:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Its gonna be a good Sunday afternoon.

All those underscores.... *cringe*
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
February 17 2013 23:00 GMT
#53209
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
February 17 2013 23:15 GMT
#53210
Is anyone besides me and Spazer watching Amnesia? Uta mentioned it when it first aired and I don't know if he ever managed to get back to translating Zaregoto finishing the VN, but I'd say of stuff that started airing this season, it's the best one. It has its faults with incredibly cheesy textbook lines, very predictable storyboarding once you realize what's happening, and a heroine whose vocabulary is limited to "um" and "uh," but I'm quite satisfied with how it's turning out and I really hope the finale delivers.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 23:25:44
February 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#53211
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.
#freeshauni
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 17 2013 23:58 GMT
#53212
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.

I'm not sure I follow you here. You are saying that this season has alot of "decent" and "slightly above average" shows airing. Are you trying to say that shows that are decent/slightly above average aren't worth watching...?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:43:09
February 18 2013 00:37 GMT
#53213
On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.


No one is asking for AOTY. They're asking for things that are good, and if stuff this season is only marginally interesting I don't see why you have to say that for some reason he should switch hobbies for finding a lot of anime this season boring...which they are.

On February 18 2013 08:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.

I'm not sure I follow you here. You are saying that this season has alot of "decent" and "slightly above average" shows airing. Are you trying to say that shows that are decent/slightly above average aren't worth watching...?


I take back what I say. The word decent is much too kind. Maybe one or two shows are slightly above average, and everything else is either average or just flat out boring. Some of these things are probably worth some of my attention, but even then, I'd argue that stuff that is just "slightly" above average aren't worth watching if you have plenty of other stuff in your list.

So in other words, people watch things expecting to be entertained, but if all you get is some slightly less than bad material, I'm not sure why it's so confounding to say "Yeah it's slightly above average but it's just not worth my time."
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:49:03
February 18 2013 00:43 GMT
#53214
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.

On February 18 2013 09:37 Zergneedsfood wrote:
No one is asking for AOTY. They're asking for things that are good, and if stuff this season is only marginally interesting I don't see why you have to say that for some reason he should switch hobbies for finding a lot of anime this season boring...which they are.


Really, if you think the average 2013 anime is only marginally interesting, you probably should not look for 2013 anime, because you are looking for stuff at places where you just ain't gonna finding them. It's like you think all dishes at a restaurant is bad, but keep going back and expecting something different.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:51:51
February 18 2013 00:47 GMT
#53215
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.


Did you not see him say that he thought last season was good?

On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 09:37 Zergneedsfood wrote:
No one is asking for AOTY. They're asking for things that are good, and if stuff this season is only marginally interesting I don't see why you have to say that for some reason he should switch hobbies for finding a lot of anime this season boring...which they are.


Really, if you think the average 2013 anime is only marginally interesting, you probably should not look for 2013 anime, because you are looking for stuff at places where you just ain't gonna finding them. It's like you think all dishes at a restaurant is bad, but keep going back and expecting something different.


Right.

Because there are so many 2013 anime to look for?

There are plenty of 2013 anime I am looking forward to.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:57:51
February 18 2013 00:50 GMT
#53216
On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.


Nobody is asking for AOTY, but.. there was at least Another in 2011, Madoka 2010, Durara 2009 etc..
And in every season there were at least 1-2 anime that were genuinely interesting and highly above average. This season, there is 1 - which is Chihayafuru S2. But nothing more and no big hits. Yes, there are some average ones, but nothing really stands out. And average ones (at least in current state) are not worth watching, unless you like particular genre - which coincidentally is almost always some derivative of comedy/slice of life/romance...

And to clarify - I like even current anime (although not as much as 2005-2009 stuff), for example 2012 Fall - Shinsekai Yori (although dropped due to horrible adaptation), Zetsuen no Tempest, JoJo, Bakuman, Jormungand, ofc PP and R;N.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:53:10
February 18 2013 00:50 GMT
#53217
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.

In Elem's defense, he did say that he did like alot of shows last season. So hes not banging his head against the wall every season.

Alof of this conversation can be summed up as Elem/ZNF don't like this season, so they say people shouldn't waste their time. You disagree, since you are enjoying stuff this season. Its just a matter of disagreeing tastes. I too think this season has some decent anime worth watching (Vividred stands out), but its not the greatest season, but whatever. I don't think my time is valuable enough to say I can't afford an hour or so of freetime for anime every week.

On February 18 2013 09:47 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 09:37 Zergneedsfood wrote:
No one is asking for AOTY. They're asking for things that are good, and if stuff this season is only marginally interesting I don't see why you have to say that for some reason he should switch hobbies for finding a lot of anime this season boring...which they are.


Really, if you think the average 2013 anime is only marginally interesting, you probably should not look for 2013 anime, because you are looking for stuff at places where you just ain't gonna finding them. It's like you think all dishes at a restaurant is bad, but keep going back and expecting something different.


Right.

Because there are so many 2013 anime to look for?

There are plenty of 2013 anime I am looking forward to.

Don't start this crap. 2013 has barely even started and already people are dismissing it? Next season alone has like 3 anime I'm looking forward to, then another in Summer, and who knows what else later in the year.
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 00:53:30
February 18 2013 00:51 GMT
#53218
On February 18 2013 09:47 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.


Did you not see him say that he thought last season was good?


On February 17 2013 22:13 Eisregen wrote:
is there actually anything worth watching this season? I mean, of the new series that is.

I dont have much time at the moment and what I have seen so far was...uhm...rather disappointing...


Nope, I did not see that, did you?

On February 18 2013 09:50 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.

In Elem's defense, he did say that he did like alot of shows last season. So hes not banging his head against the wall every season.

Alof of this conversation can be summed up as Elem/ZNF don't like this season, so they say people shouldn't waste their time. You disagree, since you are enjoying stuff this season. Its just a matter of disagreeing tastes. I too think this season has some decent anime worth watching (Vividred stands out), but its not the greatest season, but whatever. I don't think my time is valuable enough to say I can't afford an hour or so of freetime for anime every week.


My comment had nothing to do with Elem (and ZNF) though.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 18 2013 00:53 GMT
#53219
On February 18 2013 09:50 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.

In Elem's defense, he did say that he did like alot of shows last season. So hes not banging his head against the wall every season.

Alof of this conversation can be summed up as Elem/ZNF don't like this season, so they say people shouldn't waste their time. You disagree, since you are enjoying stuff this season. Its just a matter of disagreeing tastes. I too think this season has some decent anime worth watching (Vividred stands out), but its not the greatest season, but whatever. I don't think my time is valuable enough to say I can't afford an hour or so of freetime for anime every week.


I agree with this, I guess.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 18 2013 00:54 GMT
#53220
On February 18 2013 09:51 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 09:47 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
[quote]
Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.


Did you not see him say that he thought last season was good?


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On February 17 2013 22:13 Eisregen wrote:
is there actually anything worth watching this season? I mean, of the new series that is.

I dont have much time at the moment and what I have seen so far was...uhm...rather disappointing...


Nope, I did not see that, did you?

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On February 18 2013 09:50 Sentenal wrote:
On February 18 2013 09:43 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 08:25 Elem wrote:
Oh yeah I was watching Amnesia too cos Uta praised it.

On February 18 2013 08:00 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:33 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:20 ragz_gt wrote:
On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
[quote]
Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


It's a completely fair thing to say. The anime quality of the season is pretty good. It might be that none of the shows is to your personal taste, which happens and kind of sucks, just go watch stuff from 10 year ago like others. But that doesn't mean everyone else who are enjoying them are watching worthless crap and wasting life. If you think that all the shows from this season are without merit, then it's not going to get any better and might as well find another hobby.

On February 18 2013 07:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Tonari carried last anime season so hard.

Almost harder than I carried Team EMNJAY.


I can't decide if EMNJAY is a MJ reference or not...


What shows that are airing this season are good quality? I'd argue that shows this season are decent and slightly above average but nothing above that.


Decent and above average is quality though. When you buy quality stuff from store you don't expect them to be masterpieces, when you eat quality food you are not expecting 3 Michelin Stars. They are certainly worth watching. Now, if you don't like the genre or don't feel like watching them, that's more of your opinion.


No, you don't expect them to be masterpieces, but you are expecting them to be worth your time relative to what else you could be watching. People watch these things because they read the summary and are intrigued, or they watch trailers (Guilty Crown comes to mind) and are interested, and they watch and find that they are disappointed by the content. You can't just say "Well if you don't want to watch it it's your problem" because at that point people have watched it and find the material severely lacking in quality, not to mention the fact some people that staunchly believe that they shouldn't drop things they start watching.

Also. Average is quality too. And so is below average, and way below average, so I don't see where this is going.


People call above average "quality stuff", unless your "quality stuff" includes below average, it's not the same at all. If people only want watch AOTY, that's perfectly fine, but don't go complain there isn't a AOTY any particular season because you can't get 4 AOTY a year.

No one has asked for a ton of AOTYs. The idea of "above average" is up to ones own idea. The use of such a thing to claim that one probably shouldn't watch anime is pretty fucking ridiculous because you pretty much assume your view of "average" is what should be a standard for every person. Just because there is something for you this season it doesn't give you the right to pretty much tell people to fuck off in a thinly veiled manner.


When someone doesn't like any thing in a whole season, then it's a pretty telltale sign of not enjoying current animes. It's like movie critics who never give out better-than-3-star reviews: it's obvious you don't enjoy new releases, so why the hell are you doing this? It's perfectly fine to not like current animes, but stop trying to bang your head against wall every season because it's not working out.

In Elem's defense, he did say that he did like alot of shows last season. So hes not banging his head against the wall every season.

Alof of this conversation can be summed up as Elem/ZNF don't like this season, so they say people shouldn't waste their time. You disagree, since you are enjoying stuff this season. Its just a matter of disagreeing tastes. I too think this season has some decent anime worth watching (Vividred stands out), but its not the greatest season, but whatever. I don't think my time is valuable enough to say I can't afford an hour or so of freetime for anime every week.


My comment had nothing to do with Elem (and ZNF) though.


You told him that if he didn't like this season it might be time to go find another hobby.

Also:

On February 18 2013 07:00 Elem wrote:
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On February 17 2013 22:14 ragz_gt wrote:
This season is not bad at all. If you are having problem finding stuff to watch, probably time to do something else.

Think that is an unfair thing to say. Most good shows imo are from previous season(s) imo. Only things I still follow from this season is Sasami, Love Live and Puchimas. The rest is simply not worth even 30 minutes of my day, they aren't entertaining enough.

On the other hand I (obviously, considering my previous comment) loved last season for example. I think you should really reconsider if that comment actually is a good one.

Edit: lol @ znf anime banter.


There was Elem's comment, but if you were referring to someone else, my bad.

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