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On September 19 2012 17:34 Shikyo wrote: By the way after watching FSN anime I finalluy got around to playing the game(aka reading). Have been going through it non-stop for about a week now, it's incredible how horribly the anime destroyed it. Many of the characters I hated in the anime as shallow I have started to like reading through the Visual Novel, especially the protagonist.
Muv-Luv Alternative anime nowhere in sight, eh? ._. Depressing... Here's to hoping that one day they make an anime off it that doesn't completely destroy the mood of the Visual Novel. Especially if they use the original soundtrack of the game it's a guaranteed ~9.5+ average anime. It should be especially suited for an Anime because it's single-route, making everything really easy. Needs to be as long as Fullmetal Alchemist, though, but it'd be worth it for the company... The all-ages version of the VN completely demolishes the competition in even japanese charts.
An MLA anime would have to be like 75 episodes and include both Extra and Unlimited, it isn't going to happen.
On September 18 2012 10:17 Ecael wrote: The entire point of that story was to have not enough faeries, that they kinda fucked up with the stuff they decide to cut in animating it is another matter.
EDIT - and my face when AW isn't light hearted.
Accel world is serious business!!! Ladder Points Burst Points are at stake.
At first, I thought you guys were sarcastic or something, suggesting that things will become more serious... OH MY, WHY DO THESE ANIME CHARACTERS KEEP CRYING?!@#!%@! ITS SO ANNOYING. Sure, I felt for Haru because he was bullied - I really hate bullying and I think it was overall well portrayed. But everytime he gets a chance to stand up, he fails miserably and starts crying. WOW WOW WOW. Stop crying. Actually, every anime should stop abusing tears. SO ANNOYING. Hard decision in life doesn't mean you cry...
Hyme - Black Lotus is the strong point in this serie, I feel. Her legion members are way too weak compared to her (she has her weaknesses too) At first, I disliked the episodes at the beach. But then, I realized how much more depth her story holds compared to the stagnated whiny Haru. She's been in AW for so many years, and it seems like she did some crazy stuff aka betrayals in pursuit of her own goals. I definitely see a potential of exploiting these aspects of her life.
If that Noumi guy doesn't get defeated, but instead is forgiven + joins the Black Legion.. I seriously don't know how I'll react... I'll probably be disappointed at how many animes are always happy-going. Niko's "parent" got a good ending imo. He did bad things, got corrupted. But in the end, got defeated and realized that AW isn't everything, and that Niko can still be his friend.
Overall, I liked AW alot. I would be lying if I said otherwise. But the things that got me so interested in the universe aren't explored more (Black Lotus story, the fighting in the world, legions war, more Yellow legion plots). At some point, AW universe felt unforgiving (especially with all the bullying going on in the early episode in the real world). AW felt like an exact copy of their real world, people doing everything they can to reach goals, people who won't hesitate to defeat "newbs" for their own satisfaction, etc. And then eventually, everyone became likable (hell, even Ash appears to be a good guy after all!!!). I was hoping that since every players were lacking something in real life, they wanted to make it up in the virtual world. I would personally be very disappointed if the moral of this anime turned out to be : hey, even if we are different in the real world, even if we suffered alot, we can all get along in the virtual world, thus also in the real world!
On September 18 2012 10:17 Ecael wrote: The entire point of that story was to have not enough faeries, that they kinda fucked up with the stuff they decide to cut in animating it is another matter.
EDIT - and my face when AW isn't light hearted.
Accel world is serious business!!! Ladder Points Burst Points are at stake.
At first, I thought you guys were sarcastic or something, suggesting that things will become more serious... OH MY, WHY DO THESE ANIME CHARACTERS KEEP CRYING?!@#!%@! ITS SO ANNOYING. Sure, I felt for Haru because he was bullied - I really hate bullying and I think it was overall well portrayed. But everytime he gets a chance to stand up, he fails miserably and starts crying. WOW WOW WOW. Stop crying. Actually, every anime should stop abusing tears. SO ANNOYING. Hard decision in life doesn't mean you cry...
Hyme - Black Lotus is the strong point in this serie, I feel. Her legion members are way too weak compared to her (she has her weaknesses too) At first, I disliked the episodes at the beach. But then, I realized how much more depth her story holds compared to the stagnated whiny Haru. She's been in AW for so many years, and it seems like she did some crazy stuff aka betrayals in pursuit of her own goals. I definitely see a potential of exploiting these aspects of her life.
If that Noumi guy doesn't get defeated, but instead is forgiven + joins the Black Legion.. I seriously don't know how I'll react... I'll probably be disappointed at how many animes are always happy-going. Niko's "parent" got a good ending imo. He did bad things, got corrupted. But in the end, got defeated and realized that AW isn't everything, and that Niko can still be his friend.
Overall, I liked AW alot. I would be lying if I said otherwise. But the things that got me so interested in the universe aren't explored more (Black Lotus story, the fighting in the world, legions war, more Yellow legion plots). At some point, AW universe felt unforgiving (especially with all the bullying going on in the early episode in the real world). AW felt like an exact copy of their real world, people doing everything they can to reach goals, people who won't hesitate to defeat "newbs" for their own satisfaction, etc. And then eventually, everyone became likable (hell, even Ash appears to be a good guy after all!!!). I was hoping that since every players were lacking something in real life, they wanted to make it up in the virtual world. I would personally be very disappointed if the moral of this anime turned out to be : hey, even if we are different in the real world, even if we suffered alot, we can all get along in the virtual world, thus also in the real world!
Her original members were pretty cool, but they are unavailable. Though you've seen glimpse of them. + Show Spoiler [novel stuff] +
Aqua Current, the girl / trap? who helped Haru when he hit level 2, is one of the four commending officer (yes, even as level 1)
There is not much about Yellow legion (read, nothing), or any other legion except red for that matter, in LN either for some reason
Because the author sucks at writing and has one-pattern antagonists and can't do more than one loose set of characters without basically restarting a series?
Sad as it is, that's the reality we face given SAO and AW up to this point.
AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:55 ragz_gt wrote: Haru gets alot bearable after.... a long arse time... but still
Still a pig, this concept bugs me infinitely more than the Kira Yamato of MMO.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:55 ragz_gt wrote: Haru gets alot bearable after.... a long arse time... but still
Still a pig, this concept bugs me infinitely more than the Kira Yamato of MMO.
Eh, good point, don't know why it doesn't bother me as much in AW.
Gotta be 16.5, dont tell me that didnt affect your view on the anime/author at least a bit.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:55 ragz_gt wrote: Haru gets alot bearable after.... a long arse time... but still
Still a pig, this concept bugs me infinitely more than the Kira Yamato of MMO.
Eh, good point, don't know why it doesn't bother me as much in AW.
Gotta be 16.5, dont tell me that didnt affect your view on the anime/author at least a bit.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
Are you saying that Yui = Aura? If so, lol. SAO and .hack are nothing alike.
SAO and Hack are also not written anywhere close to the same time.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:55 ragz_gt wrote: Haru gets alot bearable after.... a long arse time... but still
Still a pig, this concept bugs me infinitely more than the Kira Yamato of MMO.
Eh, good point, don't know why it doesn't bother me as much in AW.
Gotta be 16.5, dont tell me that didnt affect your view on the anime/author at least a bit.
Par for the course, didn't give a damn about it. Only view that it gave me was that the author probably should avoid trying to work for eroge companies since he can't write that for his life. Frankly I don't know why it should affect anyone other than the "lol, he sucks at writing this shit" feel.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:55 ragz_gt wrote: Haru gets alot bearable after.... a long arse time... but still
Still a pig, this concept bugs me infinitely more than the Kira Yamato of MMO.
Eh, good point, don't know why it doesn't bother me as much in AW.
Gotta be 16.5, dont tell me that didnt affect your view on the anime/author at least a bit.
Probably had some effect.
Except it is the same author and the effect should be mutual?
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
Are you saying that Yui = Aura? If so, lol. SAO and .hack are nothing alike.
SAO and Hack are also not written anywhere close to the same time.
Have no idea who Yui is, pure speculation at this point. But she's probably an AI of some sort with a tear jerker back-story.
The first volume of SAO was written in 2002, was it not? .hack//infection was released in 2002. So is that like nowhere close to the same time? On top of that, a korean manhwa by the name "Yureka" or "id entity" was released 2000 with the same online virtual game setting and people getting killed. And what's up getting so mad about people not liking SAO? Not like it's that good anyway.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
Are you saying that Yui = Aura? If so, lol. SAO and .hack are nothing alike.
SAO and Hack are also not written anywhere close to the same time.
Have no idea who Yui is, pure speculation at this point. But she's probably an AI of some sort with a tear jerker back-story.
The first volume of SAO was written in 2002, was it not? .hack//infection was released in 2002. So is that like nowhere close to the same time? On top of that, a korean manhwa by the name "Yureka" or "id entity" was released 2000 with the same online virtual game setting and people getting killed. And what's up getting so mad about people not liking SAO? Not like it's that good anyway.
On September 18 2012 10:17 Ecael wrote: The entire point of that story was to have not enough faeries, that they kinda fucked up with the stuff they decide to cut in animating it is another matter.
EDIT - and my face when AW isn't light hearted.
Accel world is serious business!!! Ladder Points Burst Points are at stake.
At first, I thought you guys were sarcastic or something, suggesting that things will become more serious... OH MY, WHY DO THESE ANIME CHARACTERS KEEP CRYING?!@#!%@! ITS SO ANNOYING. Sure, I felt for Haru because he was bullied - I really hate bullying and I think it was overall well portrayed. But everytime he gets a chance to stand up, he fails miserably and starts crying. WOW WOW WOW. Stop crying. Actually, every anime should stop abusing tears. SO ANNOYING. Hard decision in life doesn't mean you cry...
Hyme - Black Lotus is the strong point in this serie, I feel. Her legion members are way too weak compared to her (she has her weaknesses too) At first, I disliked the episodes at the beach. But then, I realized how much more depth her story holds compared to the stagnated whiny Haru. She's been in AW for so many years, and it seems like she did some crazy stuff aka betrayals in pursuit of her own goals. I definitely see a potential of exploiting these aspects of her life.
If that Noumi guy doesn't get defeated, but instead is forgiven + joins the Black Legion.. I seriously don't know how I'll react... I'll probably be disappointed at how many animes are always happy-going. Niko's "parent" got a good ending imo. He did bad things, got corrupted. But in the end, got defeated and realized that AW isn't everything, and that Niko can still be his friend.
Overall, I liked AW alot. I would be lying if I said otherwise. But the things that got me so interested in the universe aren't explored more (Black Lotus story, the fighting in the world, legions war, more Yellow legion plots). At some point, AW universe felt unforgiving (especially with all the bullying going on in the early episode in the real world). AW felt like an exact copy of their real world, people doing everything they can to reach goals, people who won't hesitate to defeat "newbs" for their own satisfaction, etc. And then eventually, everyone became likable (hell, even Ash appears to be a good guy after all!!!). I was hoping that since every players were lacking something in real life, they wanted to make it up in the virtual world. I would personally be very disappointed if the moral of this anime turned out to be : hey, even if we are different in the real world, even if we suffered alot, we can all get along in the virtual world, thus also in the real world!
Her original members were pretty cool, but they are unavailable. Though you've seen glimpse of them. + Show Spoiler [novel stuff] +
Aqua Current, the girl / trap? who helped Haru when he hit level 2, is one of the four commending officer (yes, even as level 1)
There is not much about Yellow legion (read, nothing), or any other legion except red for that matter, in LN either for some reason
Because the author sucks at writing and has one-pattern antagonists and can't do more than one loose set of characters without basically restarting a series?
Sad as it is, that's the reality we face given SAO and AW up to this point.
Sounds like someone who likes the series all that much to you? Silly complaints and bad comparisons are what was getting on my nerves.
.hack started in 2002 or so, first vol of SAO was published in 2009. He started SAO at 2002 as webnovel though so I guess I am wrong about that, always thought it was post 2004. Either way, no where did I say that SAO was original so I am not sure why you are bringing up other works. I am just saying that .hack and SAO have completely different directions and comparing the two directly like that is pretty damned pointless. You can say how .hack had better execution of the idea like what many has said before, but trying to say that SAO is being like .hack is just completely baseless and silly.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
Are you saying that Yui = Aura? If so, lol. SAO and .hack are nothing alike.
SAO and Hack are also not written anywhere close to the same time.
Have no idea who Yui is, pure speculation at this point. But she's probably an AI of some sort with a tear jerker back-story.
The first volume of SAO was written in 2002, was it not? .hack//infection was released in 2002. So is that like nowhere close to the same time? On top of that, a korean manhwa by the name "Yureka" or "id entity" was released 2000 with the same online virtual game setting and people getting killed. And what's up getting so mad about people not liking SAO? Not like it's that good anyway.
On September 18 2012 10:17 Ecael wrote: The entire point of that story was to have not enough faeries, that they kinda fucked up with the stuff they decide to cut in animating it is another matter.
EDIT - and my face when AW isn't light hearted.
Accel world is serious business!!! Ladder Points Burst Points are at stake.
At first, I thought you guys were sarcastic or something, suggesting that things will become more serious... OH MY, WHY DO THESE ANIME CHARACTERS KEEP CRYING?!@#!%@! ITS SO ANNOYING. Sure, I felt for Haru because he was bullied - I really hate bullying and I think it was overall well portrayed. But everytime he gets a chance to stand up, he fails miserably and starts crying. WOW WOW WOW. Stop crying. Actually, every anime should stop abusing tears. SO ANNOYING. Hard decision in life doesn't mean you cry...
Hyme - Black Lotus is the strong point in this serie, I feel. Her legion members are way too weak compared to her (she has her weaknesses too) At first, I disliked the episodes at the beach. But then, I realized how much more depth her story holds compared to the stagnated whiny Haru. She's been in AW for so many years, and it seems like she did some crazy stuff aka betrayals in pursuit of her own goals. I definitely see a potential of exploiting these aspects of her life.
If that Noumi guy doesn't get defeated, but instead is forgiven + joins the Black Legion.. I seriously don't know how I'll react... I'll probably be disappointed at how many animes are always happy-going. Niko's "parent" got a good ending imo. He did bad things, got corrupted. But in the end, got defeated and realized that AW isn't everything, and that Niko can still be his friend.
Overall, I liked AW alot. I would be lying if I said otherwise. But the things that got me so interested in the universe aren't explored more (Black Lotus story, the fighting in the world, legions war, more Yellow legion plots). At some point, AW universe felt unforgiving (especially with all the bullying going on in the early episode in the real world). AW felt like an exact copy of their real world, people doing everything they can to reach goals, people who won't hesitate to defeat "newbs" for their own satisfaction, etc. And then eventually, everyone became likable (hell, even Ash appears to be a good guy after all!!!). I was hoping that since every players were lacking something in real life, they wanted to make it up in the virtual world. I would personally be very disappointed if the moral of this anime turned out to be : hey, even if we are different in the real world, even if we suffered alot, we can all get along in the virtual world, thus also in the real world!
Her original members were pretty cool, but they are unavailable. Though you've seen glimpse of them. + Show Spoiler [novel stuff] +
Aqua Current, the girl / trap? who helped Haru when he hit level 2, is one of the four commending officer (yes, even as level 1)
There is not much about Yellow legion (read, nothing), or any other legion except red for that matter, in LN either for some reason
Because the author sucks at writing and has one-pattern antagonists and can't do more than one loose set of characters without basically restarting a series?
Sad as it is, that's the reality we face given SAO and AW up to this point.
Sounds like someone who likes the series all that much to you?
.hack started in 2002 or so, first vol of SAO was published in 2009. He started SAO at 2002 as webnovel though so I guess I am wrong about, always thought it was post 2004.
I think that explains why I like AW more than SAO (besides that I played MMO for 10 years and Author's description somehow ticks me off). I'm expecting SAO to be more serious, and author's failing is more apparent, while I expected AW to be a goofy romcom with an emo flying pig, and it works.
finished MLU last night. ending was pretty boring but whatever, not like I expected that much from it to begin with. install MLA and then + Show Spoiler +
Title screen looks (and sounds) more epic than then anything else in the previous ~30 hours of reading lol
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
Are you saying that Yui = Aura? If so, lol. SAO and .hack are nothing alike.
SAO and Hack are also not written anywhere close to the same time.
Have no idea who Yui is, pure speculation at this point. But she's probably an AI of some sort with a tear jerker back-story.
The first volume of SAO was written in 2002, was it not? .hack//infection was released in 2002. So is that like nowhere close to the same time? On top of that, a korean manhwa by the name "Yureka" or "id entity" was released 2000 with the same online virtual game setting and people getting killed. And what's up getting so mad about people not liking SAO? Not like it's that good anyway.
On September 19 2012 23:14 Ecael wrote:
On September 19 2012 21:04 ragz_gt wrote:
On September 19 2012 14:14 XenOmega wrote:
On September 18 2012 11:26 nohbrows wrote:
On September 18 2012 10:24 Nagisama wrote:
On September 18 2012 10:17 Ecael wrote: The entire point of that story was to have not enough faeries, that they kinda fucked up with the stuff they decide to cut in animating it is another matter.
EDIT - and my face when AW isn't light hearted.
Accel world is serious business!!! Ladder Points Burst Points are at stake.
At first, I thought you guys were sarcastic or something, suggesting that things will become more serious... OH MY, WHY DO THESE ANIME CHARACTERS KEEP CRYING?!@#!%@! ITS SO ANNOYING. Sure, I felt for Haru because he was bullied - I really hate bullying and I think it was overall well portrayed. But everytime he gets a chance to stand up, he fails miserably and starts crying. WOW WOW WOW. Stop crying. Actually, every anime should stop abusing tears. SO ANNOYING. Hard decision in life doesn't mean you cry...
Hyme - Black Lotus is the strong point in this serie, I feel. Her legion members are way too weak compared to her (she has her weaknesses too) At first, I disliked the episodes at the beach. But then, I realized how much more depth her story holds compared to the stagnated whiny Haru. She's been in AW for so many years, and it seems like she did some crazy stuff aka betrayals in pursuit of her own goals. I definitely see a potential of exploiting these aspects of her life.
If that Noumi guy doesn't get defeated, but instead is forgiven + joins the Black Legion.. I seriously don't know how I'll react... I'll probably be disappointed at how many animes are always happy-going. Niko's "parent" got a good ending imo. He did bad things, got corrupted. But in the end, got defeated and realized that AW isn't everything, and that Niko can still be his friend.
Overall, I liked AW alot. I would be lying if I said otherwise. But the things that got me so interested in the universe aren't explored more (Black Lotus story, the fighting in the world, legions war, more Yellow legion plots). At some point, AW universe felt unforgiving (especially with all the bullying going on in the early episode in the real world). AW felt like an exact copy of their real world, people doing everything they can to reach goals, people who won't hesitate to defeat "newbs" for their own satisfaction, etc. And then eventually, everyone became likable (hell, even Ash appears to be a good guy after all!!!). I was hoping that since every players were lacking something in real life, they wanted to make it up in the virtual world. I would personally be very disappointed if the moral of this anime turned out to be : hey, even if we are different in the real world, even if we suffered alot, we can all get along in the virtual world, thus also in the real world!
Her original members were pretty cool, but they are unavailable. Though you've seen glimpse of them. + Show Spoiler [novel stuff] +
Aqua Current, the girl / trap? who helped Haru when he hit level 2, is one of the four commending officer (yes, even as level 1)
There is not much about Yellow legion (read, nothing), or any other legion except red for that matter, in LN either for some reason
Because the author sucks at writing and has one-pattern antagonists and can't do more than one loose set of characters without basically restarting a series?
Sad as it is, that's the reality we face given SAO and AW up to this point.
Sounds like someone who likes the series all that much to you?
.hack started in 2002 or so, first vol of SAO was published in 2009. He started SAO at 2002 as webnovel though so I guess I am wrong about, always thought it was post 2004.
I think that explains why I like AW more than SAO (besides that I played MMO for 10 years and Author's description somehow ticks me off). I'm expecting SAO to be more serious, and author's failing is more apparent, while I expected AW to be a goofy romcom with an emo flying pig, and it works.
Fair enough I guess, AW just has much less potential setting wise to get angry about shitty writing over.
On September 20 2012 02:56 KazeHydra wrote: finished MLU last night. ending was pretty boring but whatever, not like I expected that much from it to begin with. install MLA and then + Show Spoiler +
Title screen looks (and sounds) more epic than then anything else in the previous ~30 hours of reading lol
Oh, you're in for a hell of a ride. Please do post impressions/etc as you read it here, always fun to see someone get through MLA (especially the traumatic parts Q.Q).
As a random MLA comment, I have to say I liked all of the arcs in MLA... none of them were bad, or even "not great", imo. Some were better than the others, but... they're all solid.
On September 20 2012 02:56 KazeHydra wrote: finished MLU last night. ending was pretty boring but whatever, not like I expected that much from it to begin with. install MLA and then + Show Spoiler +
Title screen looks (and sounds) more epic than then anything else in the previous ~30 hours of reading lol
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
You single out Asuna, I tell you that the entire female cast of AW is the same as Asuna? Oh, Asuna is definitely just a plot device for the longest time, but the author kinda tries to fix that (albeit badly) over the course of the series. Every female in AW though are just plain wish fulfillment for a pig. I am not sure how you can consider that any better.
More like, this is how every harem works by default, Asuna is just on the extreme end of that logic.
On September 19 2012 23:55 ragz_gt wrote: Haru gets alot bearable after.... a long arse time... but still
Still a pig, this concept bugs me infinitely more than the Kira Yamato of MMO.
Eh, good point, don't know why it doesn't bother me as much in AW.
Because they turn into robots who shoot laser beams and missiles at each other.
On September 19 2012 23:45 Maxie wrote: AW is a lot better than SAO though (only going by the anime for both). Yeah, Haru is annoying but Kirito is... ugh. I guess it's the whole "Asuna exists only to be a dutchwife" thing that makes me go meeeh.
The introduction of the (probably) Deus Ex Machina girl make me not want to watch SAO anymore. I mean sure, they were written at the same time but... this is like .hack// all over again, only it's not as interesting. (could be the fault of the anime adaptation)
Are you saying that Yui = Aura? If so, lol. SAO and .hack are nothing alike.
SAO and Hack are also not written anywhere close to the same time.
Have no idea who Yui is, pure speculation at this point. But she's probably an AI of some sort with a tear jerker back-story.
The first volume of SAO was written in 2002, was it not? .hack//infection was released in 2002. So is that like nowhere close to the same time? On top of that, a korean manhwa by the name "Yureka" or "id entity" was released 2000 with the same online virtual game setting and people getting killed. And what's up getting so mad about people not liking SAO? Not like it's that good anyway.
On September 18 2012 10:17 Ecael wrote: The entire point of that story was to have not enough faeries, that they kinda fucked up with the stuff they decide to cut in animating it is another matter.
EDIT - and my face when AW isn't light hearted.
Accel world is serious business!!! Ladder Points Burst Points are at stake.
At first, I thought you guys were sarcastic or something, suggesting that things will become more serious... OH MY, WHY DO THESE ANIME CHARACTERS KEEP CRYING?!@#!%@! ITS SO ANNOYING. Sure, I felt for Haru because he was bullied - I really hate bullying and I think it was overall well portrayed. But everytime he gets a chance to stand up, he fails miserably and starts crying. WOW WOW WOW. Stop crying. Actually, every anime should stop abusing tears. SO ANNOYING. Hard decision in life doesn't mean you cry...
Hyme - Black Lotus is the strong point in this serie, I feel. Her legion members are way too weak compared to her (she has her weaknesses too) At first, I disliked the episodes at the beach. But then, I realized how much more depth her story holds compared to the stagnated whiny Haru. She's been in AW for so many years, and it seems like she did some crazy stuff aka betrayals in pursuit of her own goals. I definitely see a potential of exploiting these aspects of her life.
If that Noumi guy doesn't get defeated, but instead is forgiven + joins the Black Legion.. I seriously don't know how I'll react... I'll probably be disappointed at how many animes are always happy-going. Niko's "parent" got a good ending imo. He did bad things, got corrupted. But in the end, got defeated and realized that AW isn't everything, and that Niko can still be his friend.
Overall, I liked AW alot. I would be lying if I said otherwise. But the things that got me so interested in the universe aren't explored more (Black Lotus story, the fighting in the world, legions war, more Yellow legion plots). At some point, AW universe felt unforgiving (especially with all the bullying going on in the early episode in the real world). AW felt like an exact copy of their real world, people doing everything they can to reach goals, people who won't hesitate to defeat "newbs" for their own satisfaction, etc. And then eventually, everyone became likable (hell, even Ash appears to be a good guy after all!!!). I was hoping that since every players were lacking something in real life, they wanted to make it up in the virtual world. I would personally be very disappointed if the moral of this anime turned out to be : hey, even if we are different in the real world, even if we suffered alot, we can all get along in the virtual world, thus also in the real world!
Her original members were pretty cool, but they are unavailable. Though you've seen glimpse of them. + Show Spoiler [novel stuff] +
Aqua Current, the girl / trap? who helped Haru when he hit level 2, is one of the four commending officer (yes, even as level 1)
There is not much about Yellow legion (read, nothing), or any other legion except red for that matter, in LN either for some reason
Because the author sucks at writing and has one-pattern antagonists and can't do more than one loose set of characters without basically restarting a series?
Sad as it is, that's the reality we face given SAO and AW up to this point.
Sounds like someone who likes the series all that much to you? Silly complaints and bad comparisons are what was getting on my nerves.
.hack started in 2002 or so, first vol of SAO was published in 2009. He started SAO at 2002 as webnovel though so I guess I am wrong about that, always thought it was post 2004. Either way, no where did I say that SAO was original so I am not sure why you are bringing up other works. I am just saying that .hack and SAO have completely different directions and comparing the two directly like that is pretty damned pointless. You can say how .hack had better execution of the idea like what many has said before, but trying to say that SAO is being like .hack is just completely baseless and silly.
Ehh, sorry, not sure what I was ranting about at that point. It's just that both works seem rather similar. Maybe that's the limit of that particular setting or perhaps SAO and .hack had similar inspirations, like The Matrix or something, lol.
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