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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 25 2012 20:05 GMT
#42901
Its not necessary for Total Eclipse. TE is a side story. Having watched the original triology will help appreciation, but not required.

Alternative itself is a really, really long VN, so unless you Blast through it, I doubt you would finish the entire trilogy by the time it airs.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 25 2012 20:13 GMT
#42902
On June 26 2012 05:05 Sentenal wrote:
Its not necessary for Total Eclipse. TE is a side story. Having watched the original triology will help appreciation, but not required.

Alternative itself is a really, really long VN, so unless you Blast through it, I doubt you would finish the entire trilogy by the time it airs.


I thought it would be something like this, and yeah, I don't think I have any chance of getting through it quick enough. Still, thanks for the good answer.

Also, blast with a capital B? Are we missing Blasterion here are we?
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 20:15:06
June 25 2012 20:13 GMT
#42903
On June 26 2012 05:02 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 04:25 Sentenal wrote:
On June 26 2012 04:15 Maxie wrote:
Hm, what's the different parts of everything Muv-Luv, and in which order should I read/play them?

I used to have a chart, but don't have access to it anymore.

The main part of Muv-Luv is a trio of Visual Novels:
Muv-Luv Extra
Muv-Luv Unlimited
Muv-Luv Alternative

Reading should also be done in that order. Extra and Unlimited are together in the same 'game', just called Muv-Luv. Alternative is the one that gets the majority of the praise.

Extra takes place in the same "world" as 'Kimi ga Nozomu Eien', if you ever watched that. Its a "Super Generic Romantic Comedy". Its really only important for establishing the characters. Then you get to Unlimited, and the Main Character finds himself in setting I described a page or so ago, and the series gets a huge genre-shift. Then Alternative continues that story and gets really really good.

While there are a ton of side stories and other material out there, barely any of it is in English. So far, the only thing thats translated side story wise is a few chapters of the Total Eclipse manga, and the first volume of Schwaresmarken.


All right, thanks. Should I hurry with getting through any of this before the Total Eclipse anime starts?



Good luck with that, it's like 80 hours to get through all the material, unless you Blast through it like Sent said.

And for everyone that didn't realize EVOL is love backwards after the entire show is basically a giant romance with loveshit everywhere.

You're an idiot. Straight up, no ifs ands or buts about it. You. Are. An. Idiot.

I mean we even talked about this for a while when the show first started airing, come on.



Also, blast with a capital B? Are we missing Blasterion here are we?


No. No we are not. I have declared June 22nd a formal holiday, though I haven't come up with a name yet. It's basically like independence day.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 20:42:17
June 25 2012 20:40 GMT
#42904
On June 26 2012 05:13 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 05:05 Sentenal wrote:
Its not necessary for Total Eclipse. TE is a side story. Having watched the original triology will help appreciation, but not required.

Alternative itself is a really, really long VN, so unless you Blast through it, I doubt you would finish the entire trilogy by the time it airs.


I thought it would be something like this, and yeah, I don't think I have any chance of getting through it quick enough. Still, thanks for the good answer.

Also, blast with a capital B? Are we missing Blasterion here are we?

"Blast" is a derogatory phrase that IRC came up with, used to refer to holding down the ctrl key while "reading" Visual Novels, to skip through literally everything.

On June 26 2012 05:13 Kaal wrote:
And for everyone that didn't realize EVOL is love backwards after the entire show is basically a giant romance with loveshit everywhere.

You're an idiot. Straight up, no ifs ands or buts about it. You. Are. An. Idiot.

I mean we even talked about this for a while when the show first started airing, come on.

At least I'm not as much of an idiot as they are, since it took me only a few episodes, rather than 26
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 25 2012 20:46 GMT
#42905
On June 26 2012 05:40 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 05:13 Maxie wrote:
On June 26 2012 05:05 Sentenal wrote:
Its not necessary for Total Eclipse. TE is a side story. Having watched the original triology will help appreciation, but not required.

Alternative itself is a really, really long VN, so unless you Blast through it, I doubt you would finish the entire trilogy by the time it airs.


I thought it would be something like this, and yeah, I don't think I have any chance of getting through it quick enough. Still, thanks for the good answer.

Also, blast with a capital B? Are we missing Blasterion here are we?

"Blast" is a derogatory phrase that IRC came up with, used to refer to holding down the ctrl key while "reading" Visual Novels, to skip through literally everything.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 05:13 Kaal wrote:
And for everyone that didn't realize EVOL is love backwards after the entire show is basically a giant romance with loveshit everywhere.

You're an idiot. Straight up, no ifs ands or buts about it. You. Are. An. Idiot.

I mean we even talked about this for a while when the show first started airing, come on.

At least I'm not as much of an idiot as they are, since it took me only a few episodes, rather than 26

I watched it for myself and the sexual innuendos. All those hole jokes. :D
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#42906
+ Show Spoiler [Hayate no Gotoku Chapter 367] +
Hehe, Hinagiku so cute talking about Salisbury Steak.

Also, I knew it! I knew that the hidden room in the apartment was related to the 28th! Looks like I might get the Athena-King's Jewels arc after all. Now it just needs more Aika.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 25 2012 22:05 GMT
#42907
""Blast" is a derogatory phrase that IRC came up with, used to refer to holding down the ctrl key while "reading" Visual Novels, to skip through literally everything."

Now let's be fair, some of us can read well enough at ctrl speed for most contents. Blast just manages to do it and then get everything wrong.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
June 25 2012 22:22 GMT
#42908
On June 26 2012 07:05 Ecael wrote:
""Blast" is a derogatory phrase that IRC came up with, used to refer to holding down the ctrl key while "reading" Visual Novels, to skip through literally everything."

Now let's be fair, some of us can read well enough at ctrl speed for most contents. Blast just manages to do it and then get everything wrong.


It's not too hard to Blast through English stuff, thankfully. I propose an addendum to the original definition of "Blast" such that it requires being stupid while Ctrling.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
June 25 2012 22:59 GMT
#42909
+ Show Spoiler [Soul Eater 20] +
[image loading]
Whoaaa, shit just got craay craayyy. Series is turning out to be more than decent. They got a good balance between character development, humor, and action. Also not to mention the main plot, which is actually starting to get more interesting.

But damn dude, Maka choosing black blood, that shits CRAY CRAYYYY.
Skol
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
June 25 2012 23:02 GMT
#42910
On June 26 2012 07:22 Zeke50100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 07:05 Ecael wrote:
""Blast" is a derogatory phrase that IRC came up with, used to refer to holding down the ctrl key while "reading" Visual Novels, to skip through literally everything."

Now let's be fair, some of us can read well enough at ctrl speed for most contents. Blast just manages to do it and then get everything wrong.


It's not too hard to Blast through English stuff, thankfully. I propose an addendum to the original definition of "Blast" such that it requires being stupid while Ctrling.


It's implied. Heavily implied.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 26 2012 00:19 GMT
#42911
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 26 2012 00:21 GMT
#42912
Total Eclipse is incredibly standalone. I don't think there's even going to be BETA in it.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 26 2012 00:23 GMT
#42913
On June 26 2012 09:21 Southlight wrote:
Total Eclipse is incredibly standalone. I don't think there's even going to be BETA in it.

There is BETA towards the end of it, if /m/ is to be believed.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 26 2012 00:30 GMT
#42914
Ah, maybe Alaska finally gets attacked at the end (I haven't read all the way through).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 00:34:31
June 26 2012 00:33 GMT
#42915
On June 26 2012 09:30 Southlight wrote:
Ah, maybe Alaska finally gets attacked at the end (I haven't read all the way through).

+ Show Spoiler +
From what I've been able to piece together, is they take part in that Global Hive Distraction operation from the end of Alternative. Or people could be talking out of their ass, I've no way to verify. But the raws of the LNs vol 1-5 have surfaced, so maybe someone will get around to translating them soon, like what they did with the existing Schwaresmarken raws.

Also, even if /m/ is just lying to me about the end, there are BETA in the PV, so they at least show up in some capacity in the anime.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Isator
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany57 Posts
June 26 2012 03:16 GMT
#42916
On June 26 2012 09:19 tonight wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnuWtcu9yIQ&feature=plcp

OMG after the first note was played i started humming the song this one is great^^
Kaiki best girl
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
June 26 2012 07:08 GMT
#42917
On June 26 2012 09:19 tonight wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnuWtcu9yIQ&feature=plcp


I haven't heard that song in a long time. Hearing that made me feel a bit nostalgic.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 07:42:16
June 26 2012 07:34 GMT
#42918
On June 26 2012 05:05 Sentenal wrote:
Its not necessary for Total Eclipse. TE is a side story. Having watched the original triology will help appreciation, but not required.

Alternative itself is a really, really long VN, so unless you Blast through it, I doubt you would finish the entire trilogy by the time it airs.


FWIW, I started Alternative on a Friday afternoon and spent literally the entire weekend glued to my computer screen. It was a weekend well-spent.

As far as estimates for each portion, I read these numbers somewhere and generally agree:
Muv-Luv Extra: 10 hours + 1-2 for each additional route
Muv-Luv Unlimited: 10 hours + 30 mins for each additional "route"
Muv-Luv Alternative: 40+ hours

So at minimum, since Extra requires doing the 2 main routes to unlock Unlimited, that's about 10 + 1 + 10 + 40 = ~61 hours overall. The other 3 side routes in Extra are reasonably worthwhile for improving your Alternative experience so that's another 4-5 hours if you want to include those.

Unlimited "routes" are just for completionists - it's the same overall ending, with the respective heroine copy-pasted in with the appropriate dialog tweaks (and the ending CGs are literally a hair recolor of the exact same scene lol) - don't bother unless you're OCD like me.


Edit: Nice Madoka
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 13:55:16
June 26 2012 13:54 GMT
#42919
+ Show Spoiler [ Tasogare Otome x Amnesia 12] +
It was a perfect ending and then I saw the last minute. I will pretend i never saw that
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 26 2012 13:58 GMT
#42920
On June 26 2012 22:54 SkelA wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ Tasogare Otome x Amnesia 12] +
It was a perfect ending and then I saw the last minute. I will pretend i never saw that


+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed. Last part ruined it, even though it allows for another season...
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