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On April 07 2012 21:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: Please, I'm not the ONLY one upset over nisemono's failure, considering most who have seen it have also seen bakemono and loved the first but hated the second. But yeah, I guess if you don't really mind hints of incest for 10 out of 11 episodes then I could maybe see why you think that the fan service is the same. Oh, and let's not forget the part where he's literally taking a bath with someone who looks like they're 10 years old. Which part in the first series had this amount of fan service? They aren't nearly the same level.
Also, if you can show me shows from this season similar to durarara, baccano, usagi drop, toradora then I'll gladly never post in this thread again.
Nise wasn't "JUST" fanservice. Sure there was more fanservice than in Bakemono, but there was a stronger and more obvious overarching plot/theme in Nise than there was in Bakemono.
Also, if you liked Toradora, why don't you just watch every other show Kugimiya Rie stars as the main loli heroine (Shana, Nagi, lol Louise)? Taiga is pretty much a copy/paste of them anyways. Maybe not as tsun as Louise.
Usagi Drop? then watch PapaKiki. Not as good, but still talks about family.
For someone who's so "open" about anime, you sure don't like a lot of it.
Did you really just suggest shakugan no shana to someone who liked tordadora? Really? And papakiki to usagi drop???? Not as good is a HUGE understatement here.
And even if nisemono had literally 3 episodes worth of anything, that's like saying a porno is a movie because the people decided to act for the beginning. Not comparing nisemono literally to a porno, just making an analogy so hopefully people don't rage at me for that. The incestual parts were the main turnoffs for me, and there was damn sure a lot of it.
I don't like a lot of it. Is that so bad? Not everyone likes every drama/comedy/horror show out there, I don't see why I'm not allowed to like particular ones, and no one has enough time to watch even half of all anime out there. And by open minded I meant open to a lot of genres, not every anime released.
On April 07 2012 21:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: Please, I'm not the ONLY one upset over nisemono's failure, considering most who have seen it have also seen bakemono and loved the first but hated the second. But yeah, I guess if you don't really mind hints of incest for 10 out of 11 episodes then I could maybe see why you think that the fan service is the same. Oh, and let's not forget the part where he's literally taking a bath with someone who looks like they're 10 years old. Which part in the first series had this amount of fan service? They aren't nearly the same level.
Also, if you can show me shows from this season similar to durarara, baccano, usagi drop, toradora then I'll gladly never post in this thread again.
Nise wasn't "JUST" fanservice. Sure there was more fanservice than in Bakemono, but there was a stronger and more obvious overarching plot/theme in Nise than there was in Bakemono.
Also, if you liked Toradora, why don't you just watch every other show Kugimiya Rie stars as the main loli heroine (Shana, Nagi, lol Louise)? Taiga is pretty much a copy/paste of them anyways. Maybe not as tsun as Louise.
Usagi Drop? then watch PapaKiki. Not as good, but still talks about family.
For someone who's so "open" about anime, you sure don't like a lot of it.
Did you really just suggest shakugan no shana to someone who liked tordadora? Really? And papakiki to usagi drop???? Not as good is a HUGE understatement here.
And even if nisemono had literally 3 episodes worth of anything, that's like saying a porno is a movie because the people decided to act for the beginning. Not comparing nisemono literally to a porno, just making an analogy so hopefully people don't rage at me for that. The incestual parts were the main turnoffs for me, and there was damn sure a lot of it.
I don't like a lot of it. Is that so bad? Not everyone likes every drama/comedy/horror show out there, I don't see why I'm not allowed to like particular ones, and no one has enough time to watch even half of all anime out there. And by open minded I meant open to a lot of genres, not every anime released.
While Shana rec may have been a troll, PapaKiki is actually very similar to Usagi Drop. Instead of one loli, you have 3, instead of some 30yr old guy, you have a 20 year old guy, and it all boils down to, the guy taking care of the kids and the troubles they face.
I don't think anyone would've cared liking particular anime, or whatever. It's just that you contradict yourself saying you're open to anime, but at the same time, don't like any before half of the first episodes of this season even aired yet.
Also, I wouldn't say no one has enough time to watch even half of all anime out in a season, since there are some who can watch 72/99 series in a year, blogging 5-7 of those series per season, all while maintaining a full time job.
I'll probably watch 20+ shows this season; was 18 last season I think. So in terms of my terrible taste and incredible free time, it's looking like a pretty good season XD
On April 07 2012 23:43 MichaelEU wrote: No need to be so defensive. I merely disagree with you that Nise is shallow or a failure.
Also, Nagisama, those people have no lives and burn out after 2 years.
Haha, funny, that's exactly what happened.
And he will be dearly missed.
(Omni right?)(actually, Omni lasted for quite a while and this is a pretty common story amongst episodic bloggers)(and I only go to Randomc for the screencaps)
On April 07 2012 21:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: Please, I'm not the ONLY one upset over nisemono's failure, considering most who have seen it have also seen bakemono and loved the first but hated the second. But yeah, I guess if you don't really mind hints of incest for 10 out of 11 episodes then I could maybe see why you think that the fan service is the same. Oh, and let's not forget the part where he's literally taking a bath with someone who looks like they're 10 years old. Which part in the first series had this amount of fan service? They aren't nearly the same level.
Also, if you can show me shows from this season similar to durarara, baccano, usagi drop, toradora then I'll gladly never post in this thread again.
Nise wasn't "JUST" fanservice. Sure there was more fanservice than in Bakemono, but there was a stronger and more obvious overarching plot/theme in Nise than there was in Bakemono.
Also, if you liked Toradora, why don't you just watch every other show Kugimiya Rie stars as the main loli heroine (Shana, Nagi, lol Louise)? Taiga is pretty much a copy/paste of them anyways. Maybe not as tsun as Louise.
Usagi Drop? then watch PapaKiki. Not as good, but still talks about family.
For someone who's so "open" about anime, you sure don't like a lot of it.
Did you really just suggest shakugan no shana to someone who liked tordadora? Really? And papakiki to usagi drop???? Not as good is a HUGE understatement here.
And even if nisemono had literally 3 episodes worth of anything, that's like saying a porno is a movie because the people decided to act for the beginning. Not comparing nisemono literally to a porno, just making an analogy so hopefully people don't rage at me for that. The incestual parts were the main turnoffs for me, and there was damn sure a lot of it.
I don't like a lot of it. Is that so bad? Not everyone likes every drama/comedy/horror show out there, I don't see why I'm not allowed to like particular ones, and no one has enough time to watch even half of all anime out there. And by open minded I meant open to a lot of genres, not every anime released.
While Shana rec may have been a troll, PapaKiki is actually very similar to Usagi Drop. Instead of one loli, you have 3, instead of some 30yr old guy, you have a 20 year old guy, and it all boils down to, the guy taking care of the kids and the troubles they face.
I don't think anyone would've cared liking particular anime, or whatever. It's just that you contradict yourself saying you're open to anime, but at the same time, don't like any before half of the first episodes of this season even aired yet.
Also, I wouldn't say no one has enough time to watch even half of all anime out in a season, since there are some who can watch 72/99 series in a year, blogging 5-7 of those series per season, all while maintaining a full time job.
*open to different genres. And just because the premise is the same doesn't mean they're similar at all. And since when was Rin considered a loli????? I'll just assume you're trolling on that part. And uhh, sorry if I don't see it as "some guy taking care of a kid", but there are so many different aspects as to what makes usagi drop great, and papariki mediocre.
I've watched my share of mindless rehashes in the past to fill the time, but when there's no show that I look forward to week after week it gets pretty annoying.
On April 07 2012 21:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: Please, I'm not the ONLY one upset over nisemono's failure, considering most who have seen it have also seen bakemono and loved the first but hated the second. But yeah, I guess if you don't really mind hints of incest for 10 out of 11 episodes then I could maybe see why you think that the fan service is the same. Oh, and let's not forget the part where he's literally taking a bath with someone who looks like they're 10 years old. Which part in the first series had this amount of fan service? They aren't nearly the same level.
Also, if you can show me shows from this season similar to durarara, baccano, usagi drop, toradora then I'll gladly never post in this thread again.
Nise wasn't "JUST" fanservice. Sure there was more fanservice than in Bakemono, but there was a stronger and more obvious overarching plot/theme in Nise than there was in Bakemono.
Also, if you liked Toradora, why don't you just watch every other show Kugimiya Rie stars as the main loli heroine (Shana, Nagi, lol Louise)? Taiga is pretty much a copy/paste of them anyways. Maybe not as tsun as Louise.
Usagi Drop? then watch PapaKiki. Not as good, but still talks about family.
For someone who's so "open" about anime, you sure don't like a lot of it.
Did you really just suggest shakugan no shana to someone who liked tordadora? Really? And papakiki to usagi drop???? Not as good is a HUGE understatement here.
And even if nisemono had literally 3 episodes worth of anything, that's like saying a porno is a movie because the people decided to act for the beginning. Not comparing nisemono literally to a porno, just making an analogy so hopefully people don't rage at me for that. The incestual parts were the main turnoffs for me, and there was damn sure a lot of it.
I don't like a lot of it. Is that so bad? Not everyone likes every drama/comedy/horror show out there, I don't see why I'm not allowed to like particular ones, and no one has enough time to watch even half of all anime out there. And by open minded I meant open to a lot of genres, not every anime released.
Of course, there isn't much to be said if you are going to write off an entire series because of incest overtones.
On April 07 2012 19:24 SkelA wrote: About the discussion of TWGOK I see you guys using plot in a harem show ... I havent read/watched it but still isnt all harem shows the same shit with nothing ever happening ?
On the other hand Buyuden had an time skip and really BIG twist if you know i mean
It's not even harem really, since the girls don't remember anything and it's only one at a time. Admittedly, it's gotten a bit more harem-ish with the Goddess arc, but even that it's not conforming to regular harem themes.
And yeah, last season didn't have that many good ones either, so that refutes my point somehow that this season's aren't good either? Saying that last season's was bad, and that this season's was worse doesn't really change the point here at all. Or are you just trying to convince me that every season is shit and that every anime is as bad as the next?
Yes thats precisely what Im doing atleast, stop wasting your time.
You said this season has no good shows, I was just pointing out that for all effective purposes you had 0 good shows last season aswell. Its easy to get a handle on how you think so it was easy to figure out. And Im pretty sure if you start going farther back your 2-5 number will fall between 0 and 2. With the occasional outlier season (hence the rose tinted glasses).
See how much time you just wasted? Doesnt the life of an anime watcher suck now? You couldve spent all that time engaging yourself with so much fantastic media with unique characters, airtight plots, completely original works that were meant solely to bring out the creators artistic brilliance for you to enjoy. Seriously theres nothing for you this season, there was nothing for you last season. Maybe something the season before, certainly nothing the season before that etc etc. Anime will continue to remain bad, just like it has been bad for years now.
I dont see why anyones trying to defend Nise, If someone looks at the scenes with Shinobu and just sees a "naked loli" instead of actually paying attention to whats coming out of her mouth,they will never get it.
our obviously not going to get it, and not "open" to understanding i, so pointless to try.
On April 06 2012 15:01 Itsmedudeman wrote: Why are all the anime this season so bad?
Because rose colored glasses
Someone explain this plz?
Also called "nostalgia glasses." It's like when people go "Pokemon gen I is best all other Pokemon suck." It's baseless and they usually have no other reason for believing that other than childhood nostalgia.
Uhh, maybe, but I'd like to consider myself pretty open when I consider "good animes". Is it too much to ask for an anime without a generic storyline, generic characters, plot holes, and pretty much being a rehash of popular animes of the past just to sell tshirts and other accessories?
I like how you think you are super open and fair about anime, yet the season as barely even started and you are already saying this shit. I also like how apparently you think this season is bad, yet its like this nearly every single season, yet THIS is the anime season thats bad.
Every season always has 2-5 that are interesting for me, yet 0 this season? If you have a suggestion, please suggest, but if it involves no story, huge plot holes, and sells its soul for fan service midway through the very first episode, then don't bother.
It's seemingly getting worse every season. Yeah, I do have a preference, and if watching the same romantic comedy involving some average uninteresting male with some mysterious girl who just happened to fall into his lap and the story revolving around it is nonexistent and their relationship has nothing behind it besides average guy gets stunningly hot girl and it's basically the anime version of twilight catered to males, then yeah, I guess I'm considered picky and closed minded. Whatever happened to shows like Toradora? The new season of nisemogatari in comparison to its prequel was so shallow and disappointing I don't even want to think about it.
I got no clue what sort of shows interest you, but its laughable with what you are saying about this season. Barely anything has even aired yet, and only a few shows have even put out their first episode. How the fuck would I be able to tell if a show has "no story and huge plot holes" based off episode 1, anyway? Your post is just a typical "Oh man anime used to be so much better, why does everything suck now days!" Complaints like that get repeated each and every season, so I guess its not surprising having it happen with this season as well.
Speaking of fanservice, how the hell did you even get through Bakemonogatari, much less Nise, if fanservice bothers you that much, lol?
LOL? You can tell from the first god damn episode of most shows that nothing is gonna be 100% full of nothing. Fan service doesn't bother me, but if it's the ONLY thing the show is meant for so it can attract cheap views, THEN it bothers me. I didn't watch bakemono just for the romance, I was pointing out how nise pretty much devolved into a show about incestual urges while there was no story and the relationship growth was basically "I'd probably screw you if you weren't my sister but you are" for both arcs.
And yeah, last season didn't have that many good ones either, so that refutes my point somehow that this season's aren't good either? Saying that last season's was bad, and that this season's was worse doesn't really change the point here at all. Or are you just trying to convince me that every season is shit and that every anime is as bad as the next?
Uhhh, isn't that obvious? Haven't I said that like 3 posts in a row? lol
On April 07 2012 21:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: Please, I'm not the ONLY one upset over nisemono's failure, considering most who have seen it have also seen bakemono and loved the first but hated the second. But yeah, I guess if you don't really mind hints of incest for 10 out of 11 episodes then I could maybe see why you think that the fan service is the same. Oh, and let's not forget the part where he's literally taking a bath with someone who looks like they're 10 years old. Which part in the first series had this amount of fan service? They aren't nearly the same level.
Also, if you can show me shows from this season similar to durarara, baccano, usagi drop, toradora then I'll gladly never post in this thread again.
Yay for Kalafina "To the beginning" OP!! Tentacles owned one jet and Berserker hijacks the other to fight Gilgamesh and his airship. A lot of talking between Tokiomi and Kariya about Sakura/Rin. I would've liked to seen a bit more here. Ryuunosuke sniped by Kiritsugi. Caster on the rampage. ED song is good too. Overall, what a crazy episode to return to!!! Want Episode 15 NOW!!!
The part where Kouzuki tells Shirogane how everyone in Unit A-01 was a candidate for the 00 Unit and Shirogane asks why she sends them on such dangerous missions if that is the case. Kouzuki basically says it's because they were chosen due to their high causality, in other words, their ability to take up causality information and select favorable world branches, and if they had such low causality that they died from these missions, then they wouldn't matter anyways.
So my epiphany: in other words, Kouzuki is depending on in-universe plot armor to select out the important members of Unit A-01?! mind=blown
And not even in-universe plot armor is enough to keep them safe... :<
I'm around where you are in my 2nd run as well lol. Takeru is making the Santa Rabbit, and its just a few days before Sadogashima. The PTSD arc still made me tear up, and CHOMP... I guess seeing the image wasn't as bad this time, but the noise! The chewing noise holy shit I don't remember the noise being that bad.
Now that I think about it, the chewing sounds reminded me of F/SN, specifically HF route, Matou Zouken's worms. Not sure which would be worse... Maybe that's why for me, it wasn't so much the death itself as the reactions and events immediately afterwards that really made an impact on me.
Also curious, who is/who are your favorite characters in ML? Just finished my 2nd playthrough which re-affirmed Ayamine's awesomeness (trollface shenanigans, and especially Original Hive) so I'm still standing by her. In terms of personalities, I also like Akane's bubbliness in both Extra and Alternative.
P.S. Planning to watch Gunbuster next, inspired by your mecha guide
The part where Kouzuki tells Shirogane how everyone in Unit A-01 was a candidate for the 00 Unit and Shirogane asks why she sends them on such dangerous missions if that is the case. Kouzuki basically says it's because they were chosen due to their high causality, in other words, their ability to take up causality information and select favorable world branches, and if they had such low causality that they died from these missions, then they wouldn't matter anyways.
So my epiphany: in other words, Kouzuki is depending on in-universe plot armor to select out the important members of Unit A-01?! mind=blown
And not even in-universe plot armor is enough to keep them safe... :<
I'm around where you are in my 2nd run as well lol. Takeru is making the Santa Rabbit, and its just a few days before Sadogashima. The PTSD arc still made me tear up, and CHOMP... I guess seeing the image wasn't as bad this time, but the noise! The chewing noise holy shit I don't remember the noise being that bad.
Now that I think about it, the chewing sounds reminded me of F/SN, specifically HF route, Matou Zouken's worms. Not sure which would be worse... Maybe that's why for me, it wasn't so much the death itself as the reactions and events immediately afterwards that really made an impact on me.
Also curious, who is/who are your favorite characters in ML? Just finished my 2nd playthrough which re-affirmed Ayamine's awesomeness (trollface shenanigans, and especially Original Hive) so I'm still standing by her. In terms of personalities, I also like Akane's bubbliness in both Extra and Alternative.
On April 08 2012 01:51 Blasterion wrote: Not sure why I download all these Visual Novels only to open them then close them and then shelf them to never read them.
Not like you read them anyway Blast, just download the CG packs, it'll be much faster.
On April 08 2012 01:51 Blasterion wrote: Not sure why I download all these Visual Novels only to open them then close them and then shelf them to never read them.
Not like you read them anyway Blast, just download the CG packs, it'll be much faster.
On April 08 2012 01:51 Blasterion wrote: Not sure why I download all these Visual Novels only to open them then close them and then shelf them to never read them.
Not like you read them anyway Blast, just download the CG packs, it'll be much faster.
CG packs are nice yes.
Though if you CG pack Mahoyoru I might have to hunt you down.
On April 08 2012 01:51 Blasterion wrote: Not sure why I download all these Visual Novels only to open them then close them and then shelf them to never read them.
Not like you read them anyway Blast, just download the CG packs, it'll be much faster.
CG packs are nice yes.
Though if you CG pack Mahoyoru I might have to hunt you down.
The part where Kouzuki tells Shirogane how everyone in Unit A-01 was a candidate for the 00 Unit and Shirogane asks why she sends them on such dangerous missions if that is the case. Kouzuki basically says it's because they were chosen due to their high causality, in other words, their ability to take up causality information and select favorable world branches, and if they had such low causality that they died from these missions, then they wouldn't matter anyways.
So my epiphany: in other words, Kouzuki is depending on in-universe plot armor to select out the important members of Unit A-01?! mind=blown
And not even in-universe plot armor is enough to keep them safe... :<
I'm around where you are in my 2nd run as well lol. Takeru is making the Santa Rabbit, and its just a few days before Sadogashima. The PTSD arc still made me tear up, and CHOMP... I guess seeing the image wasn't as bad this time, but the noise! The chewing noise holy shit I don't remember the noise being that bad.
Now that I think about it, the chewing sounds reminded me of F/SN, specifically HF route, Matou Zouken's worms. Not sure which would be worse... Maybe that's why for me, it wasn't so much the death itself as the reactions and events immediately afterwards that really made an impact on me.
Also curious, who is/who are your favorite characters in ML? Just finished my 2nd playthrough which re-affirmed Ayamine's awesomeness (trollface shenanigans, and especially Original Hive) so I'm still standing by her. In terms of personalities, I also like Akane's bubbliness in both Extra and Alternative.
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