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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
August 25 2011 23:11 GMT
#27021
just moved to dorm room embarrassed to watch animu ;_;
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 23:22:00
August 25 2011 23:21 GMT
#27022
On August 26 2011 08:11 Perguvious wrote:
just moved to dorm room embarrassed to watch animu ;_;

watch it with pride, I mean I stream Visual Novels even
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 23:30:36
August 25 2011 23:27 GMT
#27023
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

edit:
On August 26 2011 08:11 Perguvious wrote:
just moved to dorm room embarrassed to watch animu ;_;

don't worry about it. I felt the same but eventually gave in to my desires and found 3 general reactions:
-people that don't care
-people that you wouldn't get along with anyway
-people that join you (okay fine, I only found 1 person like this. lucky me)
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 25 2011 23:46 GMT
#27024
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

I can agree that when you have one scene that is serious, and then all the sudden lol bath scene, then yeah, that ruins the mood and stuff. But at the same time, I think its possible to have fan service, and still have a serious plot, character development, etc etc. Just look at Godannar. Tons of tits and ass, but the character development in that show is pretty top tier imo.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 25 2011 23:51 GMT
#27025
On August 26 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

I can agree that when you have one scene that is serious, and then all the sudden lol bath scene, then yeah, that ruins the mood and stuff. But at the same time, I think its possible to have fan service, and still have a serious plot, character development, etc etc. Just look at Godannar. Tons of tits and ass, but the character development in that show is pretty top tier imo.

*looks at Godannar,
*looks at Gravion.
*looks at Godannar again
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 25 2011 23:55 GMT
#27026
On August 26 2011 08:51 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

I can agree that when you have one scene that is serious, and then all the sudden lol bath scene, then yeah, that ruins the mood and stuff. But at the same time, I think its possible to have fan service, and still have a serious plot, character development, etc etc. Just look at Godannar. Tons of tits and ass, but the character development in that show is pretty top tier imo.

*looks at Godannar,
*looks at Gravion.
*looks at Godannar again

Please don't compare Godannar to Gravion. If you have seen both shows, you would know that there is no way Gravion holds a candle to Godannar.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 25 2011 23:58 GMT
#27027
Is it just me or Bloody Monday deteriorates over time? S3 is just meh as of now.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 26 2011 00:08 GMT
#27028
On August 26 2011 08:04 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
usagi drops with another great episode, gotta love rin :3 no loli!!!


the small rin is just too cute
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 26 2011 00:16 GMT
#27029
On August 26 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

I can agree that when you have one scene that is serious, and then all the sudden lol bath scene, then yeah, that ruins the mood and stuff. But at the same time, I think its possible to have fan service, and still have a serious plot, character development, etc etc. Just look at Godannar. Tons of tits and ass, but the character development in that show is pretty top tier imo.

Yes, I thought I made it clear that it's possible to have fan service and a serious plot. Haven't seen Godannar, so I can't comment on that, but I'm saying when it goes overboard on fan service like in HotD, that's when you will no longer have a serious plot. At the very least, fan service should be excluded during the action for the most part.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 26 2011 00:18 GMT
#27030
On August 26 2011 09:08 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:04 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
usagi drops with another great episode, gotta love rin :3 no loli!!!


the small rin is just too cute

Big rin is so uncute
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#27031
In honor of Blast's ban being lifted.
[image loading]
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 26 2011 00:22 GMT
#27032
On August 26 2011 09:21 Southlight wrote:
In honor of Blast's ban being lifted.
[image loading]


must believe there's a girl ...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 26 2011 00:25 GMT
#27033
On August 26 2011 09:16 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

I can agree that when you have one scene that is serious, and then all the sudden lol bath scene, then yeah, that ruins the mood and stuff. But at the same time, I think its possible to have fan service, and still have a serious plot, character development, etc etc. Just look at Godannar. Tons of tits and ass, but the character development in that show is pretty top tier imo.

Yes, I thought I made it clear that it's possible to have fan service and a serious plot. Haven't seen Godannar, so I can't comment on that, but I'm saying when it goes overboard on fan service like in HotD, that's when you will no longer have a serious plot. At the very least, fan service should be excluded during the action for the most part.

I disagree about excluding fanservice in action. Again, I don't see how it would take away anything. I mean, honestly, fights and when people are moving around is probably the BEST time of any to throw fanservice in. Action scenes there are alot of movement and stuff, which just makes it natural for bouncing breasts and panty shots to occur. The parts where people get mad at fanservice (generally), are the slow, serious parts when the story is developing, or something. IDK, like I said, I don't really agree with the mentality that fanservice can only ruin serious parts. And also, I don't think that the fan service overall ruined the plot or anything in HotD, as I think overall it was fine, just that there were a few scenes that I thought broke the mood.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 26 2011 00:45 GMT
#27034
On August 26 2011 09:22 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:21 Southlight wrote:
In honor of Blast's ban being lifted.
[image loading]


must believe there's a girl ...

dont spill the drink!
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 26 2011 01:04 GMT
#27035
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:


Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.



Wasn't me. I only play a games game. Broodwar.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 26 2011 01:20 GMT
#27036
On August 26 2011 09:25 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:16 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 08:46 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 08:27 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

Fan service alone doesn't detract from plot. However, when a show habitually dedicates entire scenes to it and adds over the top service during the action, it's hard to take any situation they are in seriously. Visuals are a key component to setting the tone of the show. When I'm presented with decapitations and blood every few minutes, I feel the serious nature of death that is being presented. When I see boobs and panties, it changes from serious to light-hearted fun. While these can exist in balance, there is a point where too much fan service makes me unable to take the entirety of the show seriously. Sure, certain scenes may be quite serious, but if I look at the plot as a whole, I will see a show dedicated to fan service, not a serious story.

Also, some guy named Tonight just destroyed me on ladder. I hate infestors.

I can agree that when you have one scene that is serious, and then all the sudden lol bath scene, then yeah, that ruins the mood and stuff. But at the same time, I think its possible to have fan service, and still have a serious plot, character development, etc etc. Just look at Godannar. Tons of tits and ass, but the character development in that show is pretty top tier imo.

Yes, I thought I made it clear that it's possible to have fan service and a serious plot. Haven't seen Godannar, so I can't comment on that, but I'm saying when it goes overboard on fan service like in HotD, that's when you will no longer have a serious plot. At the very least, fan service should be excluded during the action for the most part.

I disagree about excluding fanservice in action. Again, I don't see how it would take away anything. I mean, honestly, fights and when people are moving around is probably the BEST time of any to throw fanservice in. Action scenes there are alot of movement and stuff, which just makes it natural for bouncing breasts and panty shots to occur. The parts where people get mad at fanservice (generally), are the slow, serious parts when the story is developing, or something. IDK, like I said, I don't really agree with the mentality that fanservice can only ruin serious parts. And also, I don't think that the fan service overall ruined the plot or anything in HotD, as I think overall it was fine, just that there were a few scenes that I thought broke the mood.

Hmm actually you're right about the action stuff. I retract my statement about that. We're going in circles at this point, so I'll just end by saying I still think there's a limit to fan service before it ruins the story. This doesn't mean I think fan service ruins it (which I think is where you are misunderstanding me the most); however, too much of it will. For me, that limit was passed in HotD.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 02:17:15
August 26 2011 02:16 GMT
#27037
Does anyone know if the HOTD manga is still ongoing? I've been waiting for the next chapter to come out and its been such a long time...
And what happened to Eden no Ori? That hasn't updated for awhile either (at least for eng, chinese raws still come out I think)
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 26 2011 02:17 GMT
#27038
On August 26 2011 11:16 NationInArms wrote:
Does anyone know if the HOTD manga is still ongoing? I've been waiting for the next chapter to come out and its been such a long time...

On August 26 2011 08:03 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 07:24 Sentenal wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 26 2011 06:24 Naphal wrote:
dunno, highschool of the dead is REALLY honest from the first second on what you will get when you watch it, when people still watch it and then complain..... then people watch it because they want to complain, i personally hope that the manga continues and it gets more seasons!

similar to hotd is the manga "cage of eden" check it out if you liked hotd xD i want that animated too T_T (there is even loli AND traploli)

well for me, I just wished it didn't try to make the end of the world seem so serious when it was obvious that the setting is unnecessary for all the fan service. Imo, you can't really have a serious plot when it's saturated with so much fan service.

Cage of Eden on the other hand has way less fan service and way more death, which makes it a much better story. The action slowed down a lot though and is only now starting up again. The loli trap is hilarious

I completely disagree. I don't see how they are related at all.

The start of HotD is completely serious, with the characters attempting to escape their school at the outset of the zombie attack. They discover various things about the zombies, and eventually succeed in obtaining a vehicle and driving away. And then they arrive at a safe house and the show/manga proceeds to hand us a particularly silly bath scene, effectively killing the serious atmosphere. Service is fine, but the way in which it's presented in HotD kinda leaves something to be desired. There comes a point when the service becomes so ridiculous that it's nearly impossible to take the show seriously anymore.

The manga is marginally better at handling the service, but it has other issues. It's like the mangaka has no clue how he wants the story to progress, so the plot is advancing at a snail's pace. The manga is also basically on hiatus again, which doesn't help at all.
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There are various hints as to where the plot will go, but the mangaka is very, very slow on acting on this. For instance, the random airport interludes have not yet been tied back to the main characters. Presumably they'll head there eventually, but god knows when that will occur.

Mr. orgy teacher is also one hell of a shitty antagonist. To date, he has done practically nothing of relevance to the plot.

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August 26 2011 02:29 GMT
#27039
Oh, thanks! I also just found out that mangareader has 2 more chapters of HOTD then mangafox.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 02:54:49
August 26 2011 02:51 GMT
#27040
So, this brings the question: are there any GOOD zombie killing animes? Maybe something like the Hollywood film "Zombieland?"

On August 26 2011 08:11 Perguvious wrote:
just moved to dorm room embarrassed to watch animu ;_;


Why would you care what normals think? They aren't worth your time anyway.

On August 26 2011 09:21 Southlight wrote:
In honor of Blast's ban being lifted.
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