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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 01 2011 16:53 GMT
#25701
MariMite rant for Blast

12:43 Seki marimite would be fine except they "kill off" the best char in like the first 5 vols
12:43 Seki sos he only gets spot appearances thereafter
12:45 ecael that's a shame
12:45 ecael considering it is lik what
12:45 ecael 30+ vols
12:45 Seki ya
12:46 Seki satou sei was like
12:46 Seki the only jokester
12:46 Seki and also the most flamboyantly les
12:46 Seki but she graduates in like the first 5 vols
12:46 Seki and so it's like ggnore
12:47 Seki which sucks esp in the anime cuz you get teased with this toyoguchi megumi x notou mamiko yuri for a bit
12:47 Seki then she's gone
12:47 Seki so it's like WAT
12:47 Seki BUT TAHT WAS AWESOME
12:48 ecael lol
12:49 Seki so after that
12:49 Seki well, really
12:49 Seki 2 of the starting rosas are awesome
12:49 Seki as the main character's sister's sister was also hilarious cuz she was this gigantic troll
12:49 Seki (ie suzutsuki)
12:49 Seki but she, too, graduates inthe first 5 vols
12:49 Seki so you end up with a bunch of wishy-washy emo girls
12:50 Seki and no more awesome older folks who just fuck with everyone
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 01 2011 17:03 GMT
#25702
On August 02 2011 01:39 Blasterion wrote:
<3 Magical Amber... but isn't that just Kohaku?

Technically the one that you see in All Around Type-Moon is not Kohaku since she came from some different dimension as Magical Amber.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 01 2011 17:10 GMT
#25703
On August 02 2011 02:03 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:39 Blasterion wrote:
<3 Magical Amber... but isn't that just Kohaku?

Technically the one that you see in All Around Type-Moon is not Kohaku since she came from some different dimension as Magical Amber.

Kohaku => Amber.... that's soooo original
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 01 2011 17:10 GMT
#25704
That's the point ._. Puns.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 01 2011 17:26 GMT
#25705
On August 02 2011 02:10 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:03 Ecael wrote:
On August 02 2011 01:39 Blasterion wrote:
<3 Magical Amber... but isn't that just Kohaku?

Technically the one that you see in All Around Type-Moon is not Kohaku since she came from some different dimension as Magical Amber.

Kohaku => Amber.... that's soooo original

I don't get it, where is the pun?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:48:16
August 01 2011 17:34 GMT
#25706
On August 02 2011 02:26 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:10 Blasterion wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:03 Ecael wrote:
On August 02 2011 01:39 Blasterion wrote:
<3 Magical Amber... but isn't that just Kohaku?

Technically the one that you see in All Around Type-Moon is not Kohaku since she came from some different dimension as Magical Amber.

Kohaku => Amber.... that's soooo original

I don't get it, where is the pun?

(Kohaku)琥珀=Amber
Japanese to English
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 01 2011 18:46 GMT
#25707
On August 01 2011 23:26 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:54 Z3kk wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:02 Ecael wrote:
On August 01 2011 09:50 Z3kk wrote:
On July 31 2011 17:48 Ecael wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:05 Z3kk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [steins;gate] +
ASDKFJA;SLDKFJADSLKF STEINS;GATE ONLY GETS BETTER

MY FAVORITE SERIES OF ALL TIME HOLY CRAP ARBLGARBLGARBLBLARBL

sometimes it really pisses me off though lol

Time travel is one of those plot devices that only pisses you off if you think about it.


Time travel is one of the devices that makes it good! I just don't like how+ Show Spoiler +
each time they jump time lines, it seems to go through a whole new process all over again of okabe going "wh--what?! impossible...what....what happened? D: D: D:" and the series attempts to provide comic relief in the form of him somehow getting screwed over by the jump -___-

I'm just starting 11, though, so I'm sure that this won't happen that often.

Which is why I say "if you think about it". As a device, there are way too many loopholes in time traveling. Not even counting the vague nature of the concept, the amount of ways time travel in fiction could be executed is just way too diverse. In the end, it is simply one of those things where you work to put up with the author's telling and usage of the device with nothing interesting in itself.

As for Okabe's confusion, well, time leap is like that in s;g.


Yeah, fair enough. Should have realized that was your point...whoopsies.

I still like the idea in general, though. :>

Well, the idea is ok, there are just a lot of potential pitfalls within the idea. Kind of makes the whole thing boil down to the skill of the author to make you not think.


Right, I understand. The idea will always have plot holes and incontinuities, even if the author adopts a specific stance on time travel in order to reduce some of the plot holes.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 01 2011 18:55 GMT
#25708
Or you can have something like Robert Heinlein's All You Zombies. Biggest timetravel mindfuck ever, and personally the golden standard of time travel stories.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 01 2011 19:06 GMT
#25709
On August 02 2011 03:55 Southlight wrote:
Or you can have something like Robert Heinlein's All You Zombies. Biggest timetravel mindfuck ever, and personally the golden standard of time travel stories.

Because rather than evading the issue with narration, it points out the issues with the concept then leave you to reflect on the one last issue it did not address.

...but where did all you zombies come from?
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:09:53
August 01 2011 19:07 GMT
#25710
Dang, lol. Seems to be based specifically on paradoxes...and also written in a single day. What a boss. And lampshanded ending, dundundun.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 01 2011 20:07 GMT
#25711
Bear in mind that I raged a bit about how S;G ends, and how its plot is generally structured. Don't get your hopes TOO high up because it's not something I even rated THAT highly. It was good, not great.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 01 2011 20:09 GMT
#25712
On August 02 2011 05:07 Southlight wrote:
Bear in mind that I raged a bit about how S;G ends, and how its plot is generally structured. Don't get your hopes TOO high up because it's not something I even rated THAT highly. It was good, not great.

Get your hopes high cuz What Southlight and Ecael thinks is good we think is great
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#25713
On August 02 2011 05:09 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 05:07 Southlight wrote:
Bear in mind that I raged a bit about how S;G ends, and how its plot is generally structured. Don't get your hopes TOO high up because it's not something I even rated THAT highly. It was good, not great.

Get your hopes high cuz What Southlight and Ecael thinks is good we think is great


Quoted for truth.

Also, does S;G only have one ending or something? I'm not 100% sure as to how VN endings translate to animes, but I thought that they either choose one of the endings or take the overall gist/characters/plot and go in a new direction?
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 01 2011 20:34 GMT
#25714
On August 02 2011 05:09 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 05:07 Southlight wrote:
Bear in mind that I raged a bit about how S;G ends, and how its plot is generally structured. Don't get your hopes TOO high up because it's not something I even rated THAT highly. It was good, not great.

Get your hopes high cuz What Southlight and Ecael thinks is good we think is great

To be honest, I've actually been worrying about how they'll end it. Although it's been pretty amazing, I wouldn't be that surprised if it had a disappointing ending.

+ Show Spoiler [Iroha 18] +
yay a Nakochi episode! Based off that first scene, she would make such a great wife She's so adorable when she reacts to the word change, even though her quiet voice and shyness is what makes her so cute hehe.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 01 2011 20:47 GMT
#25715
Different VNs do different things; many abuse the presentation medium and go for an "everything was built up for this one moment" sort of set, more typical dating sim type VNs go for the "there's a different ending for different girls" route, etc.

S;G ran with the detour system, in which there is one clear ending, and the other "routes" are simple deviations (branches, so to speak), sort of like the bad ends in many VNs. And really, for the most part every single ending except for the final one is a bad end in S;G. For instance
+ Show Spoiler [suzuha end] +
takes place during the point where he's deciding whether to send the d-mail to himself to prevent himself from stopping her - for suzuha's end he decides to do neither and try to find an alternate choice, locking them all into a loop world as he tries to figure something out, and he eventually goes insane from the torment of looping happiness while trying to figure out how to save everyone
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 01 2011 21:02 GMT
#25716
On August 02 2011 05:47 Southlight wrote:
Different VNs do different things; many abuse the presentation medium and go for an "everything was built up for this one moment" sort of set, more typical dating sim type VNs go for the "there's a different ending for different girls" route, etc.

S;G ran with the detour system, in which there is one clear ending, and the other "routes" are simple deviations (branches, so to speak), sort of like the bad ends in many VNs. And really, for the most part every single ending except for the final one is a bad end in S;G. For instance
+ Show Spoiler [suzuha end] +
takes place during the point where he's deciding whether to send the d-mail to himself to prevent himself from stopping her - for suzuha's end he decides to do neither and try to find an alternate choice, locking them all into a loop world as he tries to figure something out, and he eventually goes insane from the torment of looping happiness while trying to figure out how to save everyone

It's almost like Little Busters! getting to refrain xD
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 21:13:37
August 01 2011 21:03 GMT
#25717
On August 02 2011 05:47 Southlight wrote:
Different VNs do different things; many abuse the presentation medium and go for an "everything was built up for this one moment" sort of set, more typical dating sim type VNs go for the "there's a different ending for different girls" route, etc.

S;G ran with the detour system, in which there is one clear ending, and the other "routes" are simple deviations (branches, so to speak), sort of like the bad ends in many VNs. And really, for the most part every single ending except for the final one is a bad end in S;G. For instance
+ Show Spoiler [suzuha end] +
takes place during the point where he's deciding whether to send the d-mail to himself to prevent himself from stopping her - for suzuha's end he decides to do neither and try to find an alternate choice, locking them all into a loop world as he tries to figure something out, and he eventually goes insane from the torment of looping happiness while trying to figure out how to save everyone


Is the suzuha end safe to read if I'm only aware of the anime and am currently in the middle of ep 13?

And thanks, that makes more sense. It's sort of like the old "choose your adventure books" in that all of the endings lead to your death except for the final ending, right (though some of those books had multiple final endings too, I think, and the line between true/false endings was somewhat blurred).

+ Show Spoiler +
btw it's really annoying that about 1/3 of the way through--which is where I am right now--he just tells everyone to JUST GO BLAH and doesn't try to explain anything.....again.....though there are time constraints, he really should have told them....

thank you kurisu for calling him and settling this -_-
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 01 2011 21:10 GMT
#25718
If you've through Suzuha's story you can click the spoiler. I have no idea what episodes that was dealt with cuz I'm not watching.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 21:20:38
August 01 2011 21:14 GMT
#25719
I'll just leave it unread, just in case. Thanks, though.

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAH

STEINS;GATE STOP TROLLING ME T___T
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
August 01 2011 21:54 GMT
#25720
You just have to read this thread in case you forgot which day of the week it is.. :D:D

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