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On June 28 2013 02:09 Sentenal wrote:Nooo... Enel talk started back up. We failed in preventing it. Must destroy "Enel is the strongest" argument...: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_43:Show nested quote +Reader: Question!! If God Enel were to descend to the Blue Sea, how much would his bounty be? Also, what would happen if he did that? Would he rule the Blue Sea? P.N. Gorozoro
Oda: I see. Interesting question. Knowing how tricky he would be to beat, I'd imagine he could reach as much as 500,000,000 Beli. Luffy was lucky to be rubber. But like Luffy said, there all sorts of even crazier guys down on the Blue Sea. Enel would NOT rule it. Now stop. He isn't the strongest. Word of God confirmed it. Why must we do this every time Enel comes up?
Well the argument is basically "Oda is wrong" vs "Oda is right" so it'll never end 
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On June 28 2013 02:40 flamewheel wrote:
ODA IS WRONG
My mind just melted.
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Does that mean Ace is actually alive? ^__^ yay
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Why are you all so silly, Buggy is clearly the end boss, Blackbeard is just a distraction.
ps. Oda is wrong
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On June 28 2013 02:40 flamewheel wrote:
ODA IS WRONG
one piece is very complex story, and so many characters and many many arcs through over many many years, it's not uncommon for the author to forget stuffs he wrote long time ago. That guy wrote game of thrones get shits wrong all the time, and needed to consult his die hard fans to make sure he keeps everything in tag
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Neither Blackbeard nor Luffy actually survive to the end of the Manga. The final battle will just be a free-for-all between Buggy, Sabo and Enel, which eventually turns into intercourse.
Hot, hot intercourse.
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On February 01 2013 01:10 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:19 Sentenal wrote:On January 31 2013 22:28 DODswe4 wrote:On January 31 2013 22:23 Sentenal wrote:On January 31 2013 22:21 DODswe4 wrote:On January 31 2013 22:18 Sentenal wrote:
Luffy is "weak" to swords because he isn't invulnerable to them like blunt attacks. ..Which makes Luffy as weak to swords as practically anyone else who isn't made out of steel, or a logia, or something. So I dunno why everyone has it in their heads that swords hard-counter him or something. its kind of his counter becuse he fights with hes body (wich sanji does as well but anyway), its not really a hard counter but its alot easier to fight luffy with something sharp Its alot easier to fight anyone with something sharp not really, enel for instance you would be better off with a rubber baseball bat. not to talk about guns should be better then swords in general (not always in mangas thou) Are you being serious? In case you are being serious, which would be better against Enel: something blunt that doesn't conduct electricity or something sharp that doesn't conduct electricity? Obviously it doesn't matter if it's brunt or sharp or if it's a conductor or not, nothing can even come close to Enel with his extended mantra range. He would nuke dabizzle out of you before you come within 10mile to get a sight on him physically. Not to mention he can move at speed of lightning, how are you ganna chase him down while trying to dodge the thunderbolt that shoots down at you at speed of lightning with 10godrillion volts? He's the most broken character Oda ever created, his only undoing was his arrogance. And now that he has Maxim the space ship that can travel to the moon which is also a weapon of mass destruction that is capable of destroying the entirety of sky island, he is truly a god among men, and the most overpower weapon in one piece universe. Hell if he really wants, he can park that Maxim in orbit and send down orbital lightning strikes down to earth, there is no one else capable of space travel, wtf are they ganna do? Haki haki and more haki? no amount of haki can even touch Enel if he stays in orbit.
No, you are wrong. See, all of this is based on the idea that "Oda is right" about his own manga. You say that nothing can even come close to Enel with his extended mantra range. Source of this believe? Oda being correct. And he isn't. You say Enel can move at the speed of lightning? Source of this believe? Oda being correct. And he isn't. Maxim is a space ship? Based on Oda again? Again, BS. Can create orbital lightning strikes down to Earth? Again, going off what Oda is saying? Complete bullshit, there is no basis on someone who is wrong about his own work.
Therefore, whether "Oda is right" or "Oda is wrong", Enel is not the strongest. Regardless. End discussion.
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Canada8840 Posts
if anything Kizaru would be the strongest since he can move faster then Enel (light > lightning) attack faster and have the same range
yet he still had to surrender when shanks first mate got the jump on him
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On June 28 2013 02:49 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 01:10 rei wrote:On January 31 2013 23:19 Sentenal wrote:On January 31 2013 22:28 DODswe4 wrote:On January 31 2013 22:23 Sentenal wrote:On January 31 2013 22:21 DODswe4 wrote:On January 31 2013 22:18 Sentenal wrote:
Luffy is "weak" to swords because he isn't invulnerable to them like blunt attacks. ..Which makes Luffy as weak to swords as practically anyone else who isn't made out of steel, or a logia, or something. So I dunno why everyone has it in their heads that swords hard-counter him or something. its kind of his counter becuse he fights with hes body (wich sanji does as well but anyway), its not really a hard counter but its alot easier to fight luffy with something sharp Its alot easier to fight anyone with something sharp not really, enel for instance you would be better off with a rubber baseball bat. not to talk about guns should be better then swords in general (not always in mangas thou) Are you being serious? In case you are being serious, which would be better against Enel: something blunt that doesn't conduct electricity or something sharp that doesn't conduct electricity? Obviously it doesn't matter if it's brunt or sharp or if it's a conductor or not, nothing can even come close to Enel with his extended mantra range. He would nuke dabizzle out of you before you come within 10mile to get a sight on him physically. Not to mention he can move at speed of lightning, how are you ganna chase him down while trying to dodge the thunderbolt that shoots down at you at speed of lightning with 10godrillion volts? He's the most broken character Oda ever created, his only undoing was his arrogance. And now that he has Maxim the space ship that can travel to the moon which is also a weapon of mass destruction that is capable of destroying the entirety of sky island, he is truly a god among men, and the most overpower weapon in one piece universe. Hell if he really wants, he can park that Maxim in orbit and send down orbital lightning strikes down to earth, there is no one else capable of space travel, wtf are they ganna do? Haki haki and more haki? no amount of haki can even touch Enel if he stays in orbit. No, you are wrong. See, all of this is based on the idea that "Oda is right" about his own manga. You say that nothing can even come close to Enel with his extended mantra range. Source of this believe? Oda being correct. And he isn't. You say Enel can move at the speed of lightning? Source of this believe? Oda being correct. And he isn't. Maxim is a space ship? Based on Oda again? Again, BS. Can create orbital lightning strikes down to Earth? Again, going off what Oda is saying? Complete bullshit, there is no basis on someone who is wrong about his own work. Therefore, whether "Oda is right" or "Oda is wrong", Enel is not the strongest. Regardless. End discussion.
No no, Oda is only wrong about the things that go against rei's opinion.
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On June 28 2013 02:52 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 02:49 Sentenal wrote:On February 01 2013 01:10 rei wrote:On January 31 2013 23:19 Sentenal wrote:On January 31 2013 22:28 DODswe4 wrote:On January 31 2013 22:23 Sentenal wrote:On January 31 2013 22:21 DODswe4 wrote:On January 31 2013 22:18 Sentenal wrote:
Luffy is "weak" to swords because he isn't invulnerable to them like blunt attacks. ..Which makes Luffy as weak to swords as practically anyone else who isn't made out of steel, or a logia, or something. So I dunno why everyone has it in their heads that swords hard-counter him or something. its kind of his counter becuse he fights with hes body (wich sanji does as well but anyway), its not really a hard counter but its alot easier to fight luffy with something sharp Its alot easier to fight anyone with something sharp not really, enel for instance you would be better off with a rubber baseball bat. not to talk about guns should be better then swords in general (not always in mangas thou) Are you being serious? In case you are being serious, which would be better against Enel: something blunt that doesn't conduct electricity or something sharp that doesn't conduct electricity? Obviously it doesn't matter if it's brunt or sharp or if it's a conductor or not, nothing can even come close to Enel with his extended mantra range. He would nuke dabizzle out of you before you come within 10mile to get a sight on him physically. Not to mention he can move at speed of lightning, how are you ganna chase him down while trying to dodge the thunderbolt that shoots down at you at speed of lightning with 10godrillion volts? He's the most broken character Oda ever created, his only undoing was his arrogance. And now that he has Maxim the space ship that can travel to the moon which is also a weapon of mass destruction that is capable of destroying the entirety of sky island, he is truly a god among men, and the most overpower weapon in one piece universe. Hell if he really wants, he can park that Maxim in orbit and send down orbital lightning strikes down to earth, there is no one else capable of space travel, wtf are they ganna do? Haki haki and more haki? no amount of haki can even touch Enel if he stays in orbit. No, you are wrong. See, all of this is based on the idea that "Oda is right" about his own manga. You say that nothing can even come close to Enel with his extended mantra range. Source of this believe? Oda being correct. And he isn't. You say Enel can move at the speed of lightning? Source of this believe? Oda being correct. And he isn't. Maxim is a space ship? Based on Oda again? Again, BS. Can create orbital lightning strikes down to Earth? Again, going off what Oda is saying? Complete bullshit, there is no basis on someone who is wrong about his own work. Therefore, whether "Oda is right" or "Oda is wrong", Enel is not the strongest. Regardless. End discussion. No no, Oda is only wrong about the things that go against rei's opinion.
But...! Logic doesn't work that way!
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On June 28 2013 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
if anything Kizaru would be the strongest since he can move faster then Enel (light > lightning) attack faster and have the same range
yet he still had to surrender when shanks first mate got the jump on him
except kizaru cant nuke people from miles away.
"Enel would NOT rule it." I think Oda meant this for characters we havent seen yet. But for now Enel is the strongest OP character we've ever seen in whole series.
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Canada8840 Posts
On June 28 2013 03:10 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
if anything Kizaru would be the strongest since he can move faster then Enel (light > lightning) attack faster and have the same range
yet he still had to surrender when shanks first mate got the jump on him except kizaru cant nuke people from miles away. "Enel would NOT rule it." I think Oda meant this for characters we havent seen yet. But for now Enel is the strongest OP character we've ever seen in whole series.
why cant he? do you think light can travel less distance then lightning? Enels range could be copied by any Logia user
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On June 28 2013 03:11 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 03:10 Mensol wrote:On June 28 2013 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
if anything Kizaru would be the strongest since he can move faster then Enel (light > lightning) attack faster and have the same range
yet he still had to surrender when shanks first mate got the jump on him except kizaru cant nuke people from miles away. "Enel would NOT rule it." I think Oda meant this for characters we havent seen yet. But for now Enel is the strongest OP character we've ever seen in whole series. why cant he? do you think light can travel less distance then lightning? Enels range could be copied by any Logia user
He cant hear people like Enel.
Enel was able to nuke people from other side of skypiea because he was hearing their voices with his devil fruit.
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On June 28 2013 03:10 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
if anything Kizaru would be the strongest since he can move faster then Enel (light > lightning) attack faster and have the same range
yet he still had to surrender when shanks first mate got the jump on him except kizaru cant nuke people from miles away. "Enel would NOT rule it." I think Oda meant this for characters we havent seen yet. But for now Enel is the strongest OP character we've ever seen in whole series.
he is not, he lost to luffy.
can we stop this argument now pls.
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love it when people argue about rules in fantasy
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Canada8840 Posts
On June 28 2013 03:19 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 03:11 Forikorder wrote:On June 28 2013 03:10 Mensol wrote:On June 28 2013 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
if anything Kizaru would be the strongest since he can move faster then Enel (light > lightning) attack faster and have the same range
yet he still had to surrender when shanks first mate got the jump on him except kizaru cant nuke people from miles away. "Enel would NOT rule it." I think Oda meant this for characters we havent seen yet. But for now Enel is the strongest OP character we've ever seen in whole series. why cant he? do you think light can travel less distance then lightning? Enels range could be copied by any Logia user He cant hear people like Enel. Enel was able to nuke people from other side of skypiea because he was hearing their voices with his devil fruit.
sight is all about light which Kizaru controls so hed be able to see people on the other side of Skypiea
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On June 27 2013 04:34 Mensol wrote:
doflamingo is the strongest character in series?
have you ever heard Enel?
Look what you have done. This is all your fault.
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