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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 25 2013 21:41 GMT
#7601
On May 26 2013 06:04 1oo wrote:
Sadly the anime nowadays is a complete garbage.


ehh nah I disagree

there's one thing that the anime has that the manga won't ever have (nothing vs manga, don't worry!), it's the music as well as the fucking absurd good voice actors that luffy and chopper have. i say luffy and chopper but really, every single voice actor plays really well. the music is just really good and fits the spirit of the story almost perfectly.

but nothing is as satisfying as hearing chopper insult (ie thanking someone for a compliment) with the same voice that pikachu has
maru lover forever
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 25 2013 22:13 GMT
#7602
On May 26 2013 06:28 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 06:04 1oo wrote:
Sadly the anime nowadays is a complete garbage.

How come? Feels the same to me as it's done the past several years since Oda's style matured.

I don't think there has been any change, personally. I think most of the people who think the anime has "gotten bad" or changed any from how it was are just suffering from having to wait for it weekly. One Piece pacing as been pretty much exactly the same from the very start of the anime all the way up to present. Its just when you are marathoning the anime, such pacing issues don't stick out as much.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
May 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#7603
On May 26 2013 06:04 1oo wrote:
Sadly the anime nowadays is a complete garbage.


I agree with this , stopped watching around episde 585.

Saw there was One_pace episodes a couple weeks ago that combines 2-3 episodes for better pacing. Downloading the latest episode to see if its worth watching theese .
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 22:28:45
May 25 2013 22:28 GMT
#7604
Why do you guys want super fast pacing anyway, especially if you read the manga?

And like I said, One Piece pacing never changed. It has been 1-2 chapters per episode since episode 1.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 25 2013 22:37 GMT
#7605
On May 26 2013 07:13 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 06:28 sumsaR wrote:
On May 26 2013 06:04 1oo wrote:
Sadly the anime nowadays is a complete garbage.

How come? Feels the same to me as it's done the past several years since Oda's style matured.

I don't think there has been any change, personally. I think most of the people who think the anime has "gotten bad" or changed any from how it was are just suffering from having to wait for it weekly. One Piece pacing as been pretty much exactly the same from the very start of the anime all the way up to present. Its just when you are marathoning the anime, such pacing issues don't stick out as much.


actually this is a very good point
maru lover forever
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 25 2013 22:40 GMT
#7606
the problem with all these bumps is that it reminds me that there wasnt a chapter this week
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden887 Posts
May 25 2013 23:34 GMT
#7607
the anime is incredibly bad. Especially lately i think. The fishman arc in the anime was terrible. Will never watch one piece anime. The only animation that ever was made good in the anime was the cp9 arc. The luffy fight in particular i liked.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 11:35:15
May 26 2013 11:34 GMT
#7608
On May 26 2013 08:34 sertas wrote:
the anime is incredibly bad. Especially lately i think. The fishman arc in the anime was terrible. Will never watch one piece anime. The only animation that ever was made good in the anime was the cp9 arc. The luffy fight in particular i liked.

Please elaborate and explain. I don't understand what you're refering to exactly, as I don't know what was so "bad" about it. Has been the same forever according to me, and it's true to the manga in most things (though a bit more kid friendly in graphics).
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 15:33:42
May 26 2013 15:31 GMT
#7609
On May 26 2013 20:34 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 08:34 sertas wrote:
the anime is incredibly bad. Especially lately i think. The fishman arc in the anime was terrible. Will never watch one piece anime. The only animation that ever was made good in the anime was the cp9 arc. The luffy fight in particular i liked.

Please elaborate and explain. I don't understand what you're refering to exactly, as I don't know what was so "bad" about it. Has been the same forever according to me, and it's true to the manga in most things (though a bit more kid friendly in graphics).


It's just rediculously slow. Not only in story but just in what is going on. One piece is one of those mangas where there is a ton of stuff going on in one image, and the anime is the total opposite of that. You can also say this for some other animes, but it's even more obvious for One Piece anime.
In the manga, the drawings are really well thought-out and detailed. There are other mangas where there is just a lot of white/black planes, perhaps due to lack of staff or budget, but not in the One Piece manga. It's abit like wheres waldo : there is just a ton of content in one image. Hell, we even have pandaman. EDIT : The amount of content fired at you per minute is higher in the manga.

Atleast thats what disturbs ME the most. Different people different tastes. But I think we can agree that in general, manga are considered better (but also different) than anime, and it's no different for this one. The reason I still watch animes is probably because im simply to lazy to flip pages. But for a -in my opinion- masterpiece like One Piece, ill get off my lazy bum.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 26 2013 17:13 GMT
#7610
the anime's biggest problem is that they're going for a 1chapter1episode pace, which just doesn't fit 20 minute long episodes. The result is a lot of staring, stand stills, filler and other things that destroy the pace.
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
May 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#7611
On May 27 2013 02:13 hooahah wrote:
the anime's biggest problem is that they're going for a 1chapter1episode pace, which just doesn't fit 20 minute long episodes. The result is a lot of staring, stand stills, filler and other things that destroy the pace.

Thats why manga>anime.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden887 Posts
May 26 2013 18:10 GMT
#7612
yeah.. exactly. The fishman arc was so much staring at eachoter it was so slow...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 20:35:11
May 26 2013 20:25 GMT
#7613
What is wrong with being slow? As fan of One Piece, I love the slow pace, since it means more time with everything I love about it. I'm in no rush with the anime, I already know what happens by reading the manga. The anime lets me take it slow, and enjoy everything at a leisurely pace. Honestly the only reasons I can imagine as to why "slow pace" would be terrible would be if you don't actually care for One Piece's world or characters all that much, or are ADD.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 26 2013 21:08 GMT
#7614
You're confusing "slow pace" with "padding". Slow pace would be what's going on right now in Dressrosa with the tournament and all that, the arc has gone to a really slow start but that's ok, Oda's building the place up from scratch.

"Slow pace" does not mean having people stare each other down dramatically for 30 seconds at a time. That's just lazy padding, done purely to keep the anime running in order to rake in more cash. It's lazy, nothing more than that, and it shows.

Hope you realize the difference, next time spare us your ad hominem nonsense.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 26 2013 21:29 GMT
#7615
On May 26 2013 20:34 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 08:34 sertas wrote:
the anime is incredibly bad. Especially lately i think. The fishman arc in the anime was terrible. Will never watch one piece anime. The only animation that ever was made good in the anime was the cp9 arc. The luffy fight in particular i liked.

Please elaborate and explain. I don't understand what you're refering to exactly, as I don't know what was so "bad" about it. Has been the same forever according to me, and it's true to the manga in most things (though a bit more kid friendly in graphics).


Have you watched Luffy vs Hody? In anime Luffy was shown to be stupidly weak when in the manga he destroyed Hody without effort at all. Changing anything about canon story is incredibly stupid. The new moves of SH were animated badly too. Like they don't give a shit about them. Only Luffy's Redhawk and Elephant Gatling that look good.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 22:46:41
May 26 2013 22:35 GMT
#7616
On May 27 2013 06:08 hooahah wrote:
You're confusing "slow pace" with "padding". Slow pace would be what's going on right now in Dressrosa with the tournament and all that, the arc has gone to a really slow start but that's ok, Oda's building the place up from scratch.

"Slow pace" does not mean having people stare each other down dramatically for 30 seconds at a time. That's just lazy padding, done purely to keep the anime running in order to rake in more cash. It's lazy, nothing more than that, and it shows.

Hope you realize the difference, next time spare us your ad hominem nonsense.

Spare me your semantics. What is wrong with dramatic pauses? I have yet to see some explanation other than you just arbitrarily deciding it is "lazy".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
May 26 2013 23:03 GMT
#7617
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 07:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 06:08 hooahah wrote:
You're confusing "slow pace" with "padding". Slow pace would be what's going on right now in Dressrosa with the tournament and all that, the arc has gone to a really slow start but that's ok, Oda's building the place up from scratch.

"Slow pace" does not mean having people stare each other down dramatically for 30 seconds at a time. That's just lazy padding, done purely to keep the anime running in order to rake in more cash. It's lazy, nothing more than that, and it shows.

Hope you realize the difference, next time spare us your ad hominem nonsense.

Spare me your semantics. What is wrong with dramatic pauses? I have yet to see some explanation other than you just arbitrarily deciding it is "lazy".


'dramatic pauses', it's funny you put it that way. The only thing dramatic about it is that it pisses me off every time it happens, and I'm not the only one I am sure. If that's your thing, those 'dramatic pauzes', fine, to each his own, but I feel like you need to admit that to your average anime watcher, it is just considered bad. No matter how hard you are going to defend the One Piece anime, there are some obvious flaws with it, which can't be denied.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 26 2013 23:17 GMT
#7618
I don't see why I should care about what the "average anime watcher" thinks, considering that same "average anime watcher" probably also likes things like Naruto and Bleach. If such people don't care for One Piece, I'm fine with that (given that I don't care what they think), but don't try and use that as evidence as to why OP anime is bad.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
May 27 2013 05:34 GMT
#7619
There are some good parts to the anime. Not all of it is bad. I dislike most of the anime because of the padding, filler, slow pacing, etc, but there are some scenes that are done really well. The padding makes scenes appear drawn out and fight scenes suffer a lot from this. The tension you get from the fight in the manga doesn't transfer over to the anime because it disappears due to it being slower. That being said, some of anime scenes i think convey the point better than the manga because of the voice actors.
More notably
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
May 27 2013 05:46 GMT
#7620
I like the anime, I guess its a minority opinion tho. But I read both the Manga and watch the anime. I like viewing the story from multiple mediums with different dimensions. Like someone said, the music is pretty good. Plus there is something to actually sticking a voice and hearing a character talk then reading their lines in your head. Its fun and different so I enjoy both (though I might be more forgiving of the anime cause thats how I got started on OP in the first place :D)
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