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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
May 29 2013 12:51 GMT
#7641
On May 29 2013 15:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I personally think the animation and overall quality of the anime has gone WAAAAY down. They also seem to be using a lot less material from the actual manga and instead redrawing a lot themselves. There's a huge difference in production quality between say the Enies Lobby arc and (very, very sadly) the Marineford arc for example.


agreed. Just compare ace vs blackbeard against any of the current arcs. That fight was pumped as f*ck
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 29 2013 17:34 GMT
#7642
On May 29 2013 15:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I personally think the animation and overall quality of the anime has gone WAAAAY down. They also seem to be using a lot less material from the actual manga and instead redrawing a lot themselves. There's a huge difference in production quality between say the Enies Lobby arc and (very, very sadly) the Marineford arc for example.


Hey! I started from Enies Lobby arc!

Because of youtube, I watch Zoro vs Kaku, then Rob Lucci vs Luffy & Sanji vs the wolf

From then on seeing how all of one piece character declare war against government, unleashing new power to defeat strong enemies. Hooked me up. And the jokes too, like Franky doing funny shit when fighting chppaman , and SOGEKING!

Ah....then, quality of anime went down.....
.. . . . . I nv watch since Oz arc onwards I tink. I read manga
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 29 2013 17:43 GMT
#7643
I used to download it religiously and now I don't even remember to get it. Get hunter x hunter then watch and continue on with life. Miss one piece :<
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
May 29 2013 18:18 GMT
#7644
On May 30 2013 02:43 Numy wrote:
I used to download it religiously and now I don't even remember to get it. Get hunter x hunter then watch and continue on with life. Miss one piece :<

What stops you from following it again?
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 30 2013 17:15 GMT
#7645
On May 29 2013 21:36 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 14:57 Incognoto wrote:
I watched the Fishman arc without waiting for each episode, as I'm quite new to one piece (I watched every anime episode in less than a month :p). I didn't particularly notice bad pacing.

Thats normal. Like I said earlier, the magical spot where the anime "becomes bad" for many people is the point at which they catchup and have to wait weekly. They rarely complain prior to that point.

yepe. I stopped watching when I caught up to pace lol.

and also
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 30 2013 17:37 GMT
#7646
Kingdom anime is pretty sweet
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 30 2013 17:41 GMT
#7647
On May 30 2013 03:18 AxiR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 02:43 Numy wrote:
I used to download it religiously and now I don't even remember to get it. Get hunter x hunter then watch and continue on with life. Miss one piece :<

What stops you from following it again?


It's sooooooooo slow.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 31 2013 08:02 GMT
#7648
^_^ anyway let's just stop arguing about the anime and talk about how fucking smart Oda is as a writer.

I just noticed this. Crocodile and Sanji have never met. Which is hilarious considering how Sanji talked to Crocodile on the Den Den Mushi. Furthermore, when Croc and Luffy met up in Impel Down, Croc agreed to help break out because he wanted to be free himself and also because Ivankov said that he knew Croc's "secret". At which point Croc did sort of lose his temper.

We don't know what this secret is, but it's true leverage on croc for sure. Now, Sanji has talked shit to Croc before, but they've never met. I think it's pretty certain that SHC will meet up with Croc eventually. At which point a very hilarious scene will follow as Luffy probably won't be aggressive against Croc and the rest of the crew, except Sanji (who will know Croc's secret because Ivankov probably told him) will be wtf @ that. Sanji will then tell Croc that he knows his secret from Ivankov and Croc will hate Sanji EVEN MORE because Sanji already shit talked him, out-smarted him and now even knows his secret. But Croc probably won't be aggressive towards the SHC because why would he be, when he saved both Luffy and Ace..


Oda so smart. I also want everyone's bounties to raise.
maru lover forever
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 08:13:52
May 31 2013 08:13 GMT
#7649
On May 29 2013 06:43 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:33 killa_robot wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:25 Sentenal wrote:
What is wrong with being slow? As fan of One Piece, I love the slow pace, since it means more time with everything I love about it. I'm in no rush with the anime, I already know what happens by reading the manga. The anime lets me take it slow, and enjoy everything at a leisurely pace. Honestly the only reasons I can imagine as to why "slow pace" would be terrible would be if you don't actually care for One Piece's world or characters all that much, or are ADD.


It's pointlessly slow though. There's slow with content, and slow for the sake of slow, and they're executing the later. Seriously, what is the point of spending 30 seconds panning to see the faces of background characters over everything that happens? They aren't adding to the experience, they're ruining the natural flow of the scenes.


I disagree with it being slow for the sake of being slow. It's being done out of necessity to avoid catching up to the manga. You can either go the naruto way of filler arcs or the one piece way of dragging it out. It's a pick your poison type of scenario. Ideally for the best anime you would do the episodes at a normal pace but then this would mean a long tv hiatus at times which is something they're loathe to do. I still watch the anime but agree the pacing really dragged the fish man arc far too long. However I understand why they're doing it this way.


You can't say you disagree with me then agree with me lol. It's slow for the sake of slow because there's no narrative reason for it to be that slow, it doesn't mean there's no production reason for it. I know they do it to avoid catching up to the manga, but tbh I'd prefer they go the filler arc route (because the design of the world makes having filler islands really easy).
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 31 2013 08:28 GMT
#7650
Yeahhh I want to read the new chapters too evanthebouncy! T___T

Sigh hurry and come back!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 03 2013 17:45 GMT
#7651
I want next chapter more than Luffy wants meat.
maru lover forever
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 04 2013 02:09 GMT
#7652
On May 31 2013 17:02 Incognoto wrote:
^_^ anyway let's just stop arguing about the anime and talk about how fucking smart Oda is as a writer.

I just noticed this. Crocodile and Sanji have never met. Which is hilarious considering how Sanji talked to Crocodile on the Den Den Mushi. Furthermore, when Croc and Luffy met up in Impel Down, Croc agreed to help break out because he wanted to be free himself and also because Ivankov said that he knew Croc's "secret". At which point Croc did sort of lose his temper.

We don't know what this secret is, but it's true leverage on croc for sure. Now, Sanji has talked shit to Croc before, but they've never met. I think it's pretty certain that SHC will meet up with Croc eventually. At which point a very hilarious scene will follow as Luffy probably won't be aggressive against Croc and the rest of the crew, except Sanji (who will know Croc's secret because Ivankov probably told him) will be wtf @ that. Sanji will then tell Croc that he knows his secret from Ivankov and Croc will hate Sanji EVEN MORE because Sanji already shit talked him, out-smarted him and now even knows his secret. But Croc probably won't be aggressive towards the SHC because why would he be, when he saved both Luffy and Ace..


Oda so smart. I also want everyone's bounties to raise.


Why would Ivankov tell Croc's secret to Sanji? That seems really out of the blue.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 04 2013 13:27 GMT
#7653
My body needs OP chapter as fast as possible.

i can't handle it anymore.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 13:40:41
June 04 2013 13:35 GMT
#7654
On June 04 2013 11:09 Wildmoon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2013 17:02 Incognoto wrote:
^_^ anyway let's just stop arguing about the anime and talk about how fucking smart Oda is as a writer.

I just noticed this. Crocodile and Sanji have never met. Which is hilarious considering how Sanji talked to Crocodile on the Den Den Mushi. Furthermore, when Croc and Luffy met up in Impel Down, Croc agreed to help break out because he wanted to be free himself and also because Ivankov said that he knew Croc's "secret". At which point Croc did sort of lose his temper.

We don't know what this secret is, but it's true leverage on croc for sure. Now, Sanji has talked shit to Croc before, but they've never met. I think it's pretty certain that SHC will meet up with Croc eventually. At which point a very hilarious scene will follow as Luffy probably won't be aggressive against Croc and the rest of the crew, except Sanji (who will know Croc's secret because Ivankov probably told him) will be wtf @ that. Sanji will then tell Croc that he knows his secret from Ivankov and Croc will hate Sanji EVEN MORE because Sanji already shit talked him, out-smarted him and now even knows his secret. But Croc probably won't be aggressive towards the SHC because why would he be, when he saved both Luffy and Ace..


Oda so smart. I also want everyone's bounties to raise.


Why would Ivankov tell Croc's secret to Sanji? That seems really out of the blue.

Maybe he thinks Ivankov told Sanji during the two years he was hanging out on the trans island... Bu I don't know why Croco would come up.

Edit: Does someone have any conjecture on what Croco's secret is?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 04 2013 13:45 GMT
#7655
HHHNNNNNNGGGGG stop bumping the thread, I can't take it anymore T_T
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 04 2013 14:31 GMT
#7656
On June 04 2013 22:35 Saumure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 11:09 Wildmoon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2013 17:02 Incognoto wrote:
^_^ anyway let's just stop arguing about the anime and talk about how fucking smart Oda is as a writer.

I just noticed this. Crocodile and Sanji have never met. Which is hilarious considering how Sanji talked to Crocodile on the Den Den Mushi. Furthermore, when Croc and Luffy met up in Impel Down, Croc agreed to help break out because he wanted to be free himself and also because Ivankov said that he knew Croc's "secret". At which point Croc did sort of lose his temper.

We don't know what this secret is, but it's true leverage on croc for sure. Now, Sanji has talked shit to Croc before, but they've never met. I think it's pretty certain that SHC will meet up with Croc eventually. At which point a very hilarious scene will follow as Luffy probably won't be aggressive against Croc and the rest of the crew, except Sanji (who will know Croc's secret because Ivankov probably told him) will be wtf @ that. Sanji will then tell Croc that he knows his secret from Ivankov and Croc will hate Sanji EVEN MORE because Sanji already shit talked him, out-smarted him and now even knows his secret. But Croc probably won't be aggressive towards the SHC because why would he be, when he saved both Luffy and Ace..


Oda so smart. I also want everyone's bounties to raise.


Why would Ivankov tell Croc's secret to Sanji? That seems really out of the blue.

Maybe he thinks Ivankov told Sanji during the two years he was hanging out on the trans island... Bu I don't know why Croco would come up.

Edit: Does someone have any conjecture on what Croco's secret is?


well Iva knows that Sanji is with Luffy and Corc and Luffy have some history so she might have told him on a whim
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1084 Posts
June 04 2013 22:15 GMT
#7657
On June 04 2013 22:35 Saumure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 11:09 Wildmoon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2013 17:02 Incognoto wrote:
^_^ anyway let's just stop arguing about the anime and talk about how fucking smart Oda is as a writer.

I just noticed this. Crocodile and Sanji have never met. Which is hilarious considering how Sanji talked to Crocodile on the Den Den Mushi. Furthermore, when Croc and Luffy met up in Impel Down, Croc agreed to help break out because he wanted to be free himself and also because Ivankov said that he knew Croc's "secret". At which point Croc did sort of lose his temper.

We don't know what this secret is, but it's true leverage on croc for sure. Now, Sanji has talked shit to Croc before, but they've never met. I think it's pretty certain that SHC will meet up with Croc eventually. At which point a very hilarious scene will follow as Luffy probably won't be aggressive against Croc and the rest of the crew, except Sanji (who will know Croc's secret because Ivankov probably told him) will be wtf @ that. Sanji will then tell Croc that he knows his secret from Ivankov and Croc will hate Sanji EVEN MORE because Sanji already shit talked him, out-smarted him and now even knows his secret. But Croc probably won't be aggressive towards the SHC because why would he be, when he saved both Luffy and Ace..


Oda so smart. I also want everyone's bounties to raise.


Why would Ivankov tell Croc's secret to Sanji? That seems really out of the blue.

Maybe he thinks Ivankov told Sanji during the two years he was hanging out on the trans island... Bu I don't know why Croco would come up.

Edit: Does someone have any conjecture on what Croco's secret is?

Pure conjecture, the story of Crocodile: Croco was once a woman, but went to Ivankov and got turned into a man to become more powerful in an attempt to become the pirate king. Got slapped down by Whitebeard anyways, lost his will and joined the Shichibukai based on past reputation. Then let his abilities go to waste in Alabasta since they were never good enough to overcome Whitebeard anyways, but looked into the possibility of awakening an ancient weapon, which may have given him enough power to defeat Whitebeard. Never found it, got beaten by a weak Luffy. Lost all will and allowed himself to be captured and sent to Impel Down. With the potential death of Whitebeard, he got excited about the possibilities for the future and asked Luffy to free him. With Whitebeard gone, he'll now get back into training and become very fearsome again.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 04 2013 23:16 GMT
#7658
On June 05 2013 07:15 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 22:35 Saumure wrote:
On June 04 2013 11:09 Wildmoon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2013 17:02 Incognoto wrote:
^_^ anyway let's just stop arguing about the anime and talk about how fucking smart Oda is as a writer.

I just noticed this. Crocodile and Sanji have never met. Which is hilarious considering how Sanji talked to Crocodile on the Den Den Mushi. Furthermore, when Croc and Luffy met up in Impel Down, Croc agreed to help break out because he wanted to be free himself and also because Ivankov said that he knew Croc's "secret". At which point Croc did sort of lose his temper.

We don't know what this secret is, but it's true leverage on croc for sure. Now, Sanji has talked shit to Croc before, but they've never met. I think it's pretty certain that SHC will meet up with Croc eventually. At which point a very hilarious scene will follow as Luffy probably won't be aggressive against Croc and the rest of the crew, except Sanji (who will know Croc's secret because Ivankov probably told him) will be wtf @ that. Sanji will then tell Croc that he knows his secret from Ivankov and Croc will hate Sanji EVEN MORE because Sanji already shit talked him, out-smarted him and now even knows his secret. But Croc probably won't be aggressive towards the SHC because why would he be, when he saved both Luffy and Ace..


Oda so smart. I also want everyone's bounties to raise.


Why would Ivankov tell Croc's secret to Sanji? That seems really out of the blue.

Maybe he thinks Ivankov told Sanji during the two years he was hanging out on the trans island... Bu I don't know why Croco would come up.

Edit: Does someone have any conjecture on what Croco's secret is?

Pure conjecture, the story of Crocodile: Croco was once a woman, but went to Ivankov and got turned into a man to become more powerful in an attempt to become the pirate king. Got slapped down by Whitebeard anyways, lost his will and joined the Shichibukai based on past reputation. Then let his abilities go to waste in Alabasta since they were never good enough to overcome Whitebeard anyways, but looked into the possibility of awakening an ancient weapon, which may have given him enough power to defeat Whitebeard. Never found it, got beaten by a weak Luffy. Lost all will and allowed himself to be captured and sent to Impel Down. With the potential death of Whitebeard, he got excited about the possibilities for the future and asked Luffy to free him. With Whitebeard gone, he'll now get back into training and become very fearsome again.

"weak luffy" as in below admiral level luffy
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
June 05 2013 02:35 GMT
#7659
What if Croc actually fell in love with Ivankov in his "fem mode"? But since Ivankov didn't want to fool him, he showed him his "true form". Which shocked him and hardened his heart.

Or that Croc was actually previously a Nakama on the island after a shipwreck and got stranded there. And he lived amongst them for a time and became/acted like one of them until he found his devil fruit which gave him the ability to leave and get his act together.

My guess. 2 would actually be a nice comedic twist for someone as serious as Croc. May Ivankov has photos of them in raunchy costumes and poses. haha! =)
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 05 2013 02:52 GMT
#7660
On June 05 2013 11:35 17Sphynx17 wrote:
What if Croc actually fell in love with Ivankov in his "fem mode"? But since Ivankov didn't want to fool him, he showed him his "true form". Which shocked him and hardened his heart.

Or that Croc was actually previously a Nakama on the island after a shipwreck and got stranded there. And he lived amongst them for a time and became/acted like one of them until he found his devil fruit which gave him the ability to leave and get his act together.

My guess. 2 would actually be a nice comedic twist for someone as serious as Croc. May Ivankov has photos of them in raunchy costumes and poses. haha! =)

how do you know ivas male form is his real form?
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