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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 23 2017 01:07 Warri wrote: Actually it gets "explained" even earlier, by mihawk and ivankov during the war. Luffy attracts people and makes them his ally due to conquerors haki. But i also think Oda is wrong here. Meme aside, way too many people have it. It was supposed to be something special, of course everyone in the new world is hella strong but conquerors haki was not linked to strength necessarily. I dont like that Chinjao had it. Hell even Doflamingo shouldnt have had it. He was just a random noble that stumbled upon a strong fruit and awakened it, i dont think conquerors haki is a requirement for that. doffy is the king of underworld and don chin jao is king of the happo fleet | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2545 Posts
On September 23 2017 05:46 Dangermousecatdog wrote: When has it been explained that the conquerors haki function is to dominate others and form kingdoms as hyperbola says it? I don't recall as such ever before. I don't think it was ever said outright in those words but it's been heavily implied. During the Don Chinjao fight they talk about it - how unlocking the Haki makes you into a "King" and to become the King of Pirates you need to become the King of Kings. They also allude to it during Marineford when they don't want Luffy to escape because he can become a serious enemy down the road. Then there's luffy making animals submit - which I assume he used CH for. There's also been many instances of characters using Haki to make others quake in their boots - intimidation powers. Most obvious is Rayleigh and Boa who does it to the Kuja and even made Smoker feel it at marineford. So it's a bunch of different things that add together. | ||
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On September 23 2017 13:31 LaughingTulkas wrote: I just don't understand how Luffy finished his training with Raleigh early. It definitely seems like he could have used more time training. Maybe you can only teach the basics, and have to learn the rest by yourself. As for needing more time training, he had a deadline. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
On September 22 2017 21:43 Makro wrote: admiral level is something in a higher league, but i do think he's in the shichibukai level (probably a bit below that) definitely a nice surprise nonetheless I'm not big on the powerlevel thing.. but this guy could take on Moria, crocodile, buggy, trafalgar law, jimbei and Hancock. Might have troubles with Mihawk, DD, Kuma, Black Beard and don't know about Weeble. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Remember that Gear 4th and King Kong Gun were developed when Rayleigh was still on the island. Rayleigh left 6 months before the end of training, so Luffy had 6 months to develop another trump card. Knowing how Luffy works, it's something even more taxing and risky than even G4. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On September 23 2017 19:59 Incognoto wrote: That's the thing though, guys. Remember that Gear 4th and King Kong Gun were developed when Rayleigh was still on the island. Rayleigh left 6 months before the end of training, so Luffy had 6 months to develop another trump card. Knowing how Luffy works, it's something even more taxing and risky than even G4. Gear + Show Spoiler + Geass | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
i would think he is slightly stronger or on par with Sabo, who fought evenly with Fujitora, probably both toying around | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Um, let's be real here. Admirals have literally never been defeated. Akainu definitely took a beating and lost to Whitebeard, but then he came back and started terrorizing Marineford again. Like how fast do you recover, Akainu? You lost to the strongest man in the world 20 minutes ago and you erupt like a fucking volcano again and go on a pirate-killing spree. Madness. Admirals remain absolute power-houses. Yonko commanders end up defeated by the likes of Supernovas. I think we are undervaluing the power levels of Admirals. Fujitora also didn't really try against anyone in Dressrosa. He was like "lol i shall show ppl how stupid shichibukai is" | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8764 Posts
the 3 admirals + shichibukai are supposed to balance out the yonkous, so it makes sense that commanders of yonkous are on par with shichibukai whilst the actual emperors are admiral level. keep in mind though some shichibukai are worse than the others so... | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
I'd imagine Yonkou power level is closer to Fleet Admiral, I think we're just spoiled for Uber Powered Admirals what with Akainu being the new Fleet Admiral and Aokiji being really, really close to the Fleet Admiral's (A-freakin'-kainu) power level. Like I'm pretty sure Jack would also put up a serious fight. Basically, 1B+ bounty is probably going to be around Admiral level, otherwise they'd probably be pretty secure to fuck up the actual Yonkou, having a minimum of like 4 people of their power level. (3 Admirals and a Fleet Admiral, not to mention whatever other Marines like Garp that may actually just be on par with them without the rank to reflect it.) I think Big Mom/Kaidou/Shanks would beat out any of the current Admirals, and I think they'd have a really good shot of killing Akainu/Aokiji (probably Kizaru too, but god knows what his serious power level is like.) | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On September 25 2017 11:02 Incognoto wrote: I would say that Admirals are still above Yonko commanders. Um, let's be real here. Admirals have literally never been defeated. Akainu definitely took a beating and lost to Whitebeard, but then he came back and started terrorizing Marineford again. Like how fast do you recover, Akainu? You lost to the strongest man in the world 20 minutes ago and you erupt like a fucking volcano again and go on a pirate-killing spree. Madness. Admirals remain absolute power-houses. Yonko commanders end up defeated by the likes of Supernovas. I think we are undervaluing the power levels of Admirals. Fujitora also didn't really try against anyone in Dressrosa. He was like "lol i shall show ppl how stupid shichibukai is" Depends on the Yonkou commander. For instance, both Ace and Marco were as strong as Aokiji and Kizaru. Jack went 1v3 against Sengoku, Fujitora and Tsuru then somehow survived and escaped without getting caught by them. Its being pointed out in last chapter that Katakuri is the strongest on Big Mom pirates after her so... he is definitely strong enough to hold himself against admirals. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
The power levels are there but not so clearly defined, not set in stone. We don't know what would happen if Admirals fought Katakuri; no one does. That's why we love One Piece, I guess. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
I mean, they just barely won against Whitebeard, and that's with an insider betrayal, all the Shichibukai being on their side, and Blackbeard showing up. Based on what we've seen, Whitebeard was clearly weaker than Big Mom and probably Kaido. If either of those actually wanted to take over the world, they likely could. They just don't gain much, as they can already do what they want uncontested. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
If either of those actually wanted to take over the world, they likely could If one looks at the actual feats, its is clear that there is only one character in the series who is capable of conquering an entire gravitationally rounded object. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8764 Posts
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