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On July 07 2015 11:37 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 11:51 goody153 wrote:On July 06 2015 09:35 killa_robot wrote:On July 06 2015 03:10 goody153 wrote:feels like Sabo is just another version of Vergo but multiple times better obviously .. he's prolly gonna not gonna survive against G4 luffy head on On July 05 2015 23:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 05 2015 14:19 Forikorder wrote:On July 05 2015 09:54 goody153 wrote:
i doubt law and sabo are stronger than luffy in general(luffy G4 wayyy too broken if that wasn't doflamingo most would prolly instantly lose) but i can see both beating enemies luffy can't i think law is being overestimated in all honesty, as flashy as his fruit is its not really suited to straight up fighting its really more of a utility fruit then a combat fruit I disagree, he can do so much with his fruit in combat that is insanely overpowered. Swinging at random objects and teleporting his opponent into them. Long range cutting in half. Teleporting in general to avoid attacks or move behind enemies etc. So much versatility to use in combat basically with his fruit his imagination is his limit for what he can do in a fight, its insane. idk about insanely overpowered it's shown that he can't long range cut or mess with someone who has equal or higher haki capabilities/strength than him like luffy/doflamingo/akainu .. and against opponents who could smash terrain/concrete/w/e easily like zoro/akainu/destructive logia/really strong haki dudes i doubt moving objects against like those opponents matter at all not to mention it tires the user .. and it shows that law isn't exactly superb in fighting like luffy/doflamingo that even with his positioning manipulation with the fruit doesn't matter much also forikorder is right about zoro being able to do the same shit as law just by being a better swordsman even without the fruit (i assume at this point zoro is the better swordsman as fighter though arguable) Except he cut through Vergo at full haki. Vergo who was said to have incredibly strong haki and could clearly overpower Law. If Law was more into combat, he'd be godly. It's just he's more about actually using the medical side of the fruit. Come on he obviously doesn't have a haki as strong as an admiral or doflamingo or luffy it should be very obvious that he's a tier below them. Vergo doesn't have that incredible haki like Luffy/Doflamingo obviously cause if he did. Law should have been able to do the same to doflamingo or even to the admiral.also He is into combat do you not listen to the story he has been trained by everything that doflamingo had. He just doesn't make the cut that he has to rely on luffy to beat doflamingo. Even in his saving energy state he could not beat doflamingo multiple times who wasn't even trying to kill him. Yes he does. He's been proficient in Haki since he was a young marine. Hell, this guys was basically the poster child of Haki in the last arc. As for "doing the same", Law baited Vergo and only got him due to Vergo thinking he was no longer a threat due to him beating the shit out of Law. Playing possum wouldn't work against people that expect him to do well. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 14:32 Forikorder wrote:On July 06 2015 09:35 killa_robot wrote:On July 06 2015 03:10 goody153 wrote:feels like Sabo is just another version of Vergo but multiple times better obviously .. he's prolly gonna not gonna survive against G4 luffy head on On July 05 2015 23:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On July 05 2015 14:19 Forikorder wrote:On July 05 2015 09:54 goody153 wrote:
i doubt law and sabo are stronger than luffy in general(luffy G4 wayyy too broken if that wasn't doflamingo most would prolly instantly lose) but i can see both beating enemies luffy can't i think law is being overestimated in all honesty, as flashy as his fruit is its not really suited to straight up fighting its really more of a utility fruit then a combat fruit I disagree, he can do so much with his fruit in combat that is insanely overpowered. Swinging at random objects and teleporting his opponent into them. Long range cutting in half. Teleporting in general to avoid attacks or move behind enemies etc. So much versatility to use in combat basically with his fruit his imagination is his limit for what he can do in a fight, its insane. idk about insanely overpowered it's shown that he can't long range cut or mess with someone who has equal or higher haki capabilities/strength than him like luffy/doflamingo/akainu .. and against opponents who could smash terrain/concrete/w/e easily like zoro/akainu/destructive logia/really strong haki dudes i doubt moving objects against like those opponents matter at all not to mention it tires the user .. and it shows that law isn't exactly superb in fighting like luffy/doflamingo that even with his positioning manipulation with the fruit doesn't matter much also forikorder is right about zoro being able to do the same shit as law just by being a better swordsman even without the fruit (i assume at this point zoro is the better swordsman as fighter though arguable) Except he cut through Vergo at full haki. Vergo who was said to have incredibly strong haki and could clearly overpower Law. If Law was more into combat, he'd be godly. It's just he's more about actually using the medical side of the fruit. Vergo was being stupid there and got baited, he could have just dodged the slash but he decided to simply take it head on theres no way Law would actually beat Luffy in a straight up fight If he trained himself to fight with his fruit of course he could. But he hasn't, so he can't.Law has all the base stats to be an incredible fighter, he just doesn't have the training, so he's not one.
I'm not sure about vergo not expecting that he ain't stupid and he was obviously gonna try to kill law but law was better.
However did that work on doflamingo or the admiral. Their haki difference is huge.
And what are you talking about him not training he has been training all his life to kill doflamingo and even by all doflamingo's allies. He was training all his life.
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The translation was so shitty I didn't get a single thing lol.
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On July 09 2015 17:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:Guys... + Show Spoiler +FUJITORA FOR NEXT STRAWHAT
I believe!
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On July 09 2015 17:41 Faust852 wrote:
The translation was so shitty I didn't get a single thing lol.
Same here, im more confused than before about Fujitora now and what exactly the CP's role was in this.
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All I got out from it is that Aokiji is somewhat officially working with Blackbeard, the rest was uh?? Fujitora join the revolutionary army perhaps idk he just burned a few bridge there with the boss right??
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Look guys, it's very simple. He hates what the WG is doing, he sees how Akainu is reacting to it - backing them. Then he's ordered to kill Luffy and Law, who just did what he couldn't do because of his position (and not for the first time).
#Fujitora2015.
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Even if Fujitora was to turn on Law and Luffy i can't see him and the marines win against Sabo, Zoro and the other "healthy" allies of the SH's..
Lets see how this unfolds.. it's not going to be the regular Lets party and roll
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Fujitora to defect!
I want to see the Shanks storyline instead. It seems much interesting.
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so he is all pro mugiwara's .
But then when hes ordered to bring their heads .
He says just what i wanted to hear ?
This is where i'm confused.
Btw Thx to the guy that refered kingdom . Omg long time since i had goosebump feelings while reading .
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oh my god this chapter is so huge
i need to see mangastream's translation though
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Kaidou revealed
Kidd alliance targetting shanks
gorosei revealed to be puppets of the celestial dragons -> celestial dragons are the real strongest fighters?
kuzan working with blackbeard
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This is why I don't even bother reading it until there's a decent translation. Just takes away the fun of chapter when half of it doesn't make sense.
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Holy shit Akainu blew a gasket, hahaha!
I really wonder what Fujitora will do. Is he really going to attack the Straw Hats right now or is he going to go easy on them like Kuma? In terms of who can still fight him we have: Zoro, Sabo, Cavendish, Bartholomew. Maybe they'll help the Straw Hats get away? This was an awesome chapter.
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Now that was a solid chapter.
l o l Chump Alliance (Kid/Apoo/Hawkins) aiming for Shanks. They are going to get rekt.
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Does anyone have a better translation than mangapandas? It was fucking terrible, and I barely understood half of it (not entirely at least).
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fujitora now knows that the WG is on the wrong side thats why he said exactly what I wanted to hear.
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oh my god.
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Holy shit, nice find man.
On July 09 2015 19:52 saltywet wrote:
kuzan working with blackbeard
+ Show Spoiler +Didn't that just mean that Kuzan is being tied up with Blackbeard power-wise. I might be wrong, but that would be really surprising (if Kuzan decided to work with BB).
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Aokiji is just using BB. He's too level-headed to have a classic "revenge at any cost" plotline. Maybe he's after One Piece?
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