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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 28 2015 06:36 GMT
#20301
So is Pika "random colloseum mook" tier as well?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 28 2015 08:54 GMT
#20302
On February 28 2015 14:12 ElizarTringov wrote:
I definitely see Sanji infiltrating the inner sanctum of Big Moms ship. Even better I see him making something tasty for Big Mom but being the baller strategic genius that he is he will end up poisoning her food. She will end up eating it, after which Sanji will leave and Big Mom will get sick and have to go back to her island.


Sanji would never, ever poison food, believe me.

Big Mam isn't on that ship.
maru lover forever
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18564 Posts
February 28 2015 09:18 GMT
#20303
If Sanji had to decide to help starving people or marry Boa he would always choose help starving people.
And thus he would never ever poison food.

Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
February 28 2015 12:06 GMT
#20304
I hope zoro gets a real fight tho arc against cp0 or he is a major role in the doffy luffy law fight.
Nashi
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden61 Posts
February 28 2015 12:13 GMT
#20305
I agree. Sanji would NEVER poison food. Not with his backstory or his view on food. And if he would poison food at one point in the manga I would be pretty dissapointed. Doesnt matter how he does it.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 28 2015 14:29 GMT
#20306
On February 28 2015 15:36 Sentenal wrote:
So is Pika "random colloseum mook" tier as well?

no i just used him as an example of having haki doesnt mean that your an incredibly strong uber fighter like vergo
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 28 2015 14:59 GMT
#20307
Luffy vs snake sister's proved that having haki isn't enough and that it can be broken through with brute force.
maru lover forever
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 16:31:37
February 28 2015 16:30 GMT
#20308
Why do you think it's just about haki. It's not just about haki, haki is a sign of strength that you can't just discount because X got 1 shot, but I also mentioned they are on a Yonkou crew are the designated fighters and Pekoms has 330,000,000 bounty which is crazy for a non captain. Then you go well they're probably colloseum mook tier.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2547 Posts
February 28 2015 17:58 GMT
#20309
I think you guys are underestimating the colloseum fighters. These are some of the best in the new world. They are on par with world class pirate crews like the Doflamingo family. Keep in mind that Law's original plan was to pit Kaido and Doffy against eachother so he could defeat the victor. This means that these characters are good enough ti be in Yonku crews just that they prefer to remain independent.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 18:48:50
February 28 2015 18:48 GMT
#20310
Forik never defined what mooks was referring to. Without context I would think it would be the random coliseum non named fighters as mooks usually refer to henchmen and random guards in a series. The named fighters which he probably was referring to wary widely in strength, but yes they can stand up to DD executive members.

Though Law's original plan was to destroy SAD factory, pissing off Kaido and letting the Kaido pirates destroy Donflamingo and his crew. Law said this was a part of a plan to destroy Kaido, but he lied to Luffy since the plan was actually just to kill Donflamingo because of Law's personal grudge. It was never implied that Donflamingo's crew might beat Kaido's crew they are after all a Yonkou crew that normal pirate crews can't stand up to without forming an alliance hence the two alliances that were formed between the rookie crews.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 01 2015 00:51 GMT
#20311
On March 01 2015 02:58 Hyperbola wrote:
I think you guys are underestimating the colloseum fighters. These are some of the best in the new world. They are on par with world class pirate crews like the Doflamingo family. Keep in mind that Law's original plan was to pit Kaido and Doffy against eachother so he could defeat the victor. This means that these characters are good enough ti be in Yonku crews just that they prefer to remain independent.


These colosseum fighters are good. Some of the better ones are good even for the new world. However I think a Yonkou's crew is better than that. Law's original plan was not to fight the winner of Kaidou and Doflamingo; his original plan was to have Kaidou crush Doflamingo, and he presented it as something that would inevitably happen if Kaidou and Doflamingo fought it out and that was the full extent of it. He said he was going to fight Kaidou to draw in Luffy, but he never had the intention to.

As to the source of this conversation, Sanji probably has a decent chance if he's only against Pekoms and Tamago. The straw hats are fairly strong even by new world standards. It really depends on how many core crew members of the Big Mom pirates are on that ship.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 01 2015 04:15 GMT
#20312
On March 01 2015 03:48 BlackMagister wrote:
Forik never defined what mooks was referring to. Without context I would think it would be the random coliseum non named fighters as mooks usually refer to henchmen and random guards in a series. The named fighters which he probably was referring to wary widely in strength, but yes they can stand up to DD executive members.

Though Law's original plan was to destroy SAD factory, pissing off Kaido and letting the Kaido pirates destroy Donflamingo and his crew. Law said this was a part of a plan to destroy Kaido, but he lied to Luffy since the plan was actually just to kill Donflamingo because of Law's personal grudge. It was never implied that Donflamingo's crew might beat Kaido's crew they are after all a Yonkou crew that normal pirate crews can't stand up to without forming an alliance hence the two alliances that were formed between the rookie crews.

he double bluffed Doflamingo his plan was always to take down Kaidou he saids as such to Luffy after he gets rescued, he only told Doflamingo his goal was to beat him and his alliance with Luffy was over to make him lower his guard
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 01 2015 07:04 GMT
#20313
On March 01 2015 13:15 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 03:48 BlackMagister wrote:
Forik never defined what mooks was referring to. Without context I would think it would be the random coliseum non named fighters as mooks usually refer to henchmen and random guards in a series. The named fighters which he probably was referring to wary widely in strength, but yes they can stand up to DD executive members.

Though Law's original plan was to destroy SAD factory, pissing off Kaido and letting the Kaido pirates destroy Donflamingo and his crew. Law said this was a part of a plan to destroy Kaido, but he lied to Luffy since the plan was actually just to kill Donflamingo because of Law's personal grudge. It was never implied that Donflamingo's crew might beat Kaido's crew they are after all a Yonkou crew that normal pirate crews can't stand up to without forming an alliance hence the two alliances that were formed between the rookie crews.

he double bluffed Doflamingo his plan was always to take down Kaidou he saids as such to Luffy after he gets rescued, he only told Doflamingo his goal was to beat him and his alliance with Luffy was over to make him lower his guard


I need a source on that. I remember Trafalgar repeatedly telling Luffy that the alliance was dissolved and Luffy refusing to listen to him.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 01 2015 09:36 GMT
#20314
Pica's voice reveal in the newest anime episode hahahaha
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 12:28:49
March 01 2015 12:02 GMT
#20315
On March 01 2015 18:36 AsnSensation wrote:
Pica's voice reveal in the newest anime episode hahahaha


HOLY MOTHER OF LUL

They made it twice as ridiculous as what I made it out to be in my head.

LOL PIKA YOU SUCK

SOPRANO BASTARD

E: something cool I found on reddit about bonney / lola / big mam http://i.imgur.com/kmZojCB.jpg

interesting because nami might meet up with big mam in a bit or something
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 01 2015 14:26 GMT
#20316
On March 01 2015 16:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 13:15 Forikorder wrote:
On March 01 2015 03:48 BlackMagister wrote:
Forik never defined what mooks was referring to. Without context I would think it would be the random coliseum non named fighters as mooks usually refer to henchmen and random guards in a series. The named fighters which he probably was referring to wary widely in strength, but yes they can stand up to DD executive members.

Though Law's original plan was to destroy SAD factory, pissing off Kaido and letting the Kaido pirates destroy Donflamingo and his crew. Law said this was a part of a plan to destroy Kaido, but he lied to Luffy since the plan was actually just to kill Donflamingo because of Law's personal grudge. It was never implied that Donflamingo's crew might beat Kaido's crew they are after all a Yonkou crew that normal pirate crews can't stand up to without forming an alliance hence the two alliances that were formed between the rookie crews.

he double bluffed Doflamingo his plan was always to take down Kaidou he saids as such to Luffy after he gets rescued, he only told Doflamingo his goal was to beat him and his alliance with Luffy was over to make him lower his guard


I need a source on that. I remember Trafalgar repeatedly telling Luffy that the alliance was dissolved and Luffy refusing to listen to him.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/746/18
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 16:30:40
March 01 2015 16:28 GMT
#20317
Law's goal was always to kill Donflamingo as explained in Law's backstory. He didn't care if he died as long as he destroyed the SAD factory and ensured Caesar never got back to Donflamingo then he knew Kaido would kill Donflamingo. Originally it didn't matter what happened to Luffy, but eventually he started to care about Luffy and his group.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 01 2015 16:45 GMT
#20318
On March 01 2015 23:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 16:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 01 2015 13:15 Forikorder wrote:
On March 01 2015 03:48 BlackMagister wrote:
Forik never defined what mooks was referring to. Without context I would think it would be the random coliseum non named fighters as mooks usually refer to henchmen and random guards in a series. The named fighters which he probably was referring to wary widely in strength, but yes they can stand up to DD executive members.

Though Law's original plan was to destroy SAD factory, pissing off Kaido and letting the Kaido pirates destroy Donflamingo and his crew. Law said this was a part of a plan to destroy Kaido, but he lied to Luffy since the plan was actually just to kill Donflamingo because of Law's personal grudge. It was never implied that Donflamingo's crew might beat Kaido's crew they are after all a Yonkou crew that normal pirate crews can't stand up to without forming an alliance hence the two alliances that were formed between the rookie crews.

he double bluffed Doflamingo his plan was always to take down Kaidou he saids as such to Luffy after he gets rescued, he only told Doflamingo his goal was to beat him and his alliance with Luffy was over to make him lower his guard


I need a source on that. I remember Trafalgar repeatedly telling Luffy that the alliance was dissolved and Luffy refusing to listen to him.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/746/18


Nowhere does this imply that Trafalgar and Luffy would take on Kaidou after Doflamingo got destroyed. In fact it implies that Trafalgar planned for exactly the opposite.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 01 2015 17:40 GMT
#20319
On March 02 2015 01:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 23:26 Forikorder wrote:
On March 01 2015 16:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 01 2015 13:15 Forikorder wrote:
On March 01 2015 03:48 BlackMagister wrote:
Forik never defined what mooks was referring to. Without context I would think it would be the random coliseum non named fighters as mooks usually refer to henchmen and random guards in a series. The named fighters which he probably was referring to wary widely in strength, but yes they can stand up to DD executive members.

Though Law's original plan was to destroy SAD factory, pissing off Kaido and letting the Kaido pirates destroy Donflamingo and his crew. Law said this was a part of a plan to destroy Kaido, but he lied to Luffy since the plan was actually just to kill Donflamingo because of Law's personal grudge. It was never implied that Donflamingo's crew might beat Kaido's crew they are after all a Yonkou crew that normal pirate crews can't stand up to without forming an alliance hence the two alliances that were formed between the rookie crews.

he double bluffed Doflamingo his plan was always to take down Kaidou he saids as such to Luffy after he gets rescued, he only told Doflamingo his goal was to beat him and his alliance with Luffy was over to make him lower his guard


I need a source on that. I remember Trafalgar repeatedly telling Luffy that the alliance was dissolved and Luffy refusing to listen to him.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/746/18


Nowhere does this imply that Trafalgar and Luffy would take on Kaidou after Doflamingo got destroyed. In fact it implies that Trafalgar planned for exactly the opposite.

yes he did plan for the opposite, but he straight said to luffy the plan was to keep doflamingo alive so he would face Kaidou

erego the person i was talking to who said that law lied to luffy and planned to kill Dofla from the beggining was wrong
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 19:23:05
March 01 2015 19:16 GMT
#20320
I meant Law's goal was always to kill Donflamingo, but using Kaido. The scene you linked is Law warning Luffy that killing Donflamingo personally would make Kaido angry at Luffy. The lie was Law pretending his goal was to defeat Kaido when it was just to kill Donflamingo using Kaido.

Which is why you're wrong about Law planning to kill the victor of DD vs Kaido, Law expected Kaido to win because he is a Yonkou. Going back further shows the respect a Yonkou crew is given and why Sanji would probably lose.
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